Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 In a message dated 9/18/03 5:23:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ecmillerreid writes: > I have been experiencing extreme shoulder and right upper back pain for > quite some time -- it hurts especially when I lift my arm. My right > upper back/shoulder area just seems to get very tight and hurt > whenever. The pain has recently become so bad that it's interfering > with my life and sleep. I've been going to a chiropractor for months > but instead of getting better, it's getting worse. I started > accupunture -- but so far even that has not lessened the pain. > Suggestions? > > Namaste, Liz > MSM plus vitamin C Magnesium pluc vitamin B complex at therapeutic levels for several days, then to a maintenance dose. Hope this helps MJH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Liz I had these symptoms twice; first it was a calcium deposit on my upper arm bone, looked like a Hershey's' kisses candy in the x-ray, Dr, scraped it off with a needle full of cortisone. I heard it crunch- crunch crunch. No further problem. He called it a baseball arm. Next time it was tendonitis in the shoulder, took aspirin that time. Do you take MSM? Good luck. Lorenzo ne_Forum] extreme shoulder pain I have been experiencing extreme shoulder and right upper back pain for quite some time -- it hurts especially when I lift my arm. My right upper back/shoulder area just seems to get very tight and hurt whenever. The pain has recently become so bad that it's interfering with my life and sleep. I've been going to a chiropractor for months but instead of getting better, it's getting worse. I started accupunture -- but so far even that has not lessened the pain. Suggestions? Namaste, Liz --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release 9/11/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Liz I find my body responds well when in crisis to 3 grams of MSM and 1.5 grams of C every three to four hours plus 400 mg Magnesium and B complex three to four times a day. It usually takes several days to fully kick in and then I slowly reduced the frequency of dosing until I attain a level of comfort. mjh In a message dated 9/18/03 9:38:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ecmillerreid writes: > What therapeutic levels do you suggest -- how often; with or without > food? > > Liz > On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 02:42 PM, > wrote: > > > MSM plus vitamin C > > Magnesium pluc vitamin B complex > > > > at therapeutic levels for several days, then to a maintenance dose. > > > > Hope this helps > > MJH > MJH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 05:59 AM, LF wrote: > I have been experiencing extreme shoulder and right upper back pain for > quite some time -- it hurts especially when I lift my arm. My right > upper back/shoulder area just seems to get very tight and hurt > whenever. The pain has recently become so bad that it's interfering > with my life and sleep. I've been going to a chiropractor for months > but instead of getting better, it's getting worse. I started > accupunture -- but so far even that has not lessened the pain. > Suggestions? > > Namaste, Liz What was on the xray? That's the place to start. What was the dx from the Chiro? Unfortunately, many Chiros are more into the religion of Chiropractic than actual diagnostic skills. The " remove the subluxation of the spine and the healing power of the body will flow from Above Down, Inside Out " belief of the old guard is still hanging around making the rest of us look like quacks. Acupuncture is generally temporary for pain relief but if the problem is myofascitis or " Trigger Points " someone who does Dragon Needling or Dry Needling will give you a lot of relief. Start with a proper diagnosis though. If you don't know what is wrong then you're not going to know what is going to make you right. Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Liz, I had pain in my right upper shoulder for well over a year. Mine was particularly bad when I reached upper for anything. I could not sit in a car and reach to get the seat belt but rather had to completely turn my body to get it and bring forward to latch. My pain was usually worse in the morning, I figured it possibly was being caused by sleep position as it seemed to be worse in the morning when I woke, combined with old age. Anyway, the ergonomist at work was trying a pilot test of something to help avoid carpal tunnel syndrome. It basically was a very simple stretch - holding a wand (equipvalent to about an 8 " stick) with both hands at the waist. Then you fold both hands up to your chest, curl them out and straight upward and stretched to whatever degree you could. You do it every hour on the hour for 40 seconds. In our case there was a computer clock that went off to remind us to stretch. My pain was completely gone within two weeks. I now have full range of reach, even for a seat belt. It was so simple and easy. You might consider looking for some simple stretches. Athletes always do them and they are recommended before rigorous workouts so I am sure you can find them easily on the web, on video, or in exercise/stretching books. - Elizabeth Miller Thursday, September 18, 2003 3:31 PM extreme shoulder pain I have been experiencing extreme shoulder and right upper back pain for quite some time -- it hurts especially when I lift my arm. My right upper back/shoulder area just seems to get very tight and hurt whenever. The pain has recently become so bad that it's interfering with my life and sleep. I've been going to a chiropractor for months but instead of getting better, it's getting worse. I started accupunture -- but so far even that has not lessened the pain. Suggestions? Namaste, Liz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 I too had terrible right shoulder pain, worsened, unable to lift, use... became frozen shoulder. DMSO provided temporary relief. Doc unable to pinpoint problem. Based on personal investigation about calcium deposits, I initiated treatment with Vit K. That alone stopped the problem, but I then began better balanced supplementation of calcium, magnesium, minerals. The full treatment seems to keep the problem from coming back. Physical Therapy did not fix the problem for me. Vit K is a worthy pursuit to see whether your shoulder responds (to see if issue is Calcium deposits)... cheap. In plant form, Vit K is non-toxic: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2000/feb00-report.html LF wrote: >Liz > >I had these symptoms twice; first it was a calcium deposit on my upper arm >bone, looked like a Hershey's' kisses candy in the x-ray, Dr, scraped it off >with a needle full of cortisone. I heard it crunch- crunch crunch. No >further problem. He called it a baseball arm. > >Next time it was tendonitis in the shoulder, took aspirin that time. > >Do you take MSM? > >Good luck. > >Lorenzo > > ne_Forum] extreme shoulder pain > > >I have been experiencing extreme shoulder and right upper back pain for >quite some time -- it hurts especially when I lift my arm. My right >upper back/shoulder area just seems to get very tight and hurt >whenever. The pain has recently become so bad that it's interfering >with my life and sleep. I've been going to a chiropractor for months >but instead of getting better, it's getting worse. I started >accupunture -- but so far even that has not lessened the pain. >Suggestions? > >Namaste, Liz > > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release 9/11/03 > > > > >JOIN OUR NEW MESSAGE BOARDS HERE. >http://alternative-medicine-message-boards.info > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus Pauling > >Getting well is done one step at a time, day by day, building health and well being. > >. >list or archives: > >:........ - >post:............. alternative_Medicine_Forum >digest form:...... -digest >individual emails: -normal >no email:......... -nomail >moderator:........ -owner >:...... - > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2003 Report Share Posted September 19, 2003 Liz, I just got a cortisone shot in my left shoulder. For the first day it hurt more than ever, then got better. I¹m a little worried because I heard cortisone shots are bad for you. Anyway, I finally got desperate enough to try it. Some people say their pain goes away forever with one shot. I¹ll keep you posted . . . Background: 35 years ago (at the age of 21) I broke the neck of my humerus. Broken blood vessels may have caused bone to die, and the bone may have eventually healed in a deformed manner. This is a type of osteonecrosis. I grew to accept having limited motion in this shoulder, was able to swim and lift weights, and had no pain. Then about 6 years ago it started hurting and didn¹t stop for a year. Lots of misery and confusion followed, especially about pain causing more pain. Eventually, after a period of easing back a lot to let the shoulder ³calm down,² I found that lifting weights very carefully seemed to help. Also, I have found correct posture when you¹re doing anything is extremely important. I haven¹t been very good about sticking to the program, however. My range of motion has decreased a lot, which only increases the difficulty of using correct posture. This last bout of pain began when I started a new nurse¹s aide job -- ignoring pain and pushing myself to impress my bosses. MRI says ³you have fractured your humerus in the past and it has some deformity and severe arthritis now. In addition there is bursitis and tendonitis and a small tear in part of your rotator cuff.² The Orthopedic who gave me the shot discounted the rotator cuff tear, saying lots of people with arthritis have rotator cuff tears. He¹s from India, and hard to talk to, but I¹ve heard he¹s good. HTH, Suzanne Fitzsimons Adirondacks of NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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