Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 JoAnn.. what are your thoughts on inulin..another prebiotic. Ken - JoAnn Guest Wednesday, October 29, 2003 10:25 PM Re: The Irritable Bowel Syndrome Good Guy ---Good Evening, An imbalance of the gut flora, termed `dysbiosis' is indicated by symptoms such as IBS, diarrhea, constipation and a lack of natural energy. Among the foods that encourage the growth of friendly bacteria are fruit and vegetables, pulses and whole grains such as that which is found in " kefir " . while pathogens thrive on sugary,high protein and refined foods. Fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS) is a well researched substance that feeds only friendly bacteria. Because it is a type of fibre, it passes undigested through the stomach and then arrives intact in the intestine where it stimulates the growth of helpful " gut " bacteria. FOS serves as a food for friendly bacteria, which *aids* our digestion by " fermenting " undigested food and increasing elimination of toxins. FOS may be useful in treating conditions like irritable bowel syndrome. Artichoke, bananas, leeks and asparagus are the richest food sources of FOS and it is also incorporated into supplements. known as prebiotics. FOS is also present in papaya and pineapple, however in much smaller amounts. Probiotics, literally meaning " pro life " , are foods or supplements that actually contain a dose, usually in the billions, of live bacteria of the kind that naturally grow in the gut. Best Regards, JoAnn In , Zamyrabyrd <zamyrabyrd> wrote: > Hi, > > I have had IBS for years and I must respectfully > disagree about soluble fiber in foods that have a high > carbohydrate rating. For me they are simply disasters. > Part of the problem may be grain allergy and/or > sensitivity to gluten. Carbs when not digested > properly DO ferment and cause a LOT of trouble in the > gut. So I personally try to stay away from them even > though they are EVERYWHERE. If I don't then there is > hell to pay. Fruit should also be regarded with > moderation and even caution. I don't know why " pasta " > has become so respectable even in for people who are > trying to lose weight. If one considers the amount of > (white) flour pasta contains, then for sure it will > become clear that it's just another glorified wheat > product. > > ZB > > > The Irritable Bowel Syndrome Good Guy > > Hmmm....You've heard of fiber, you're pretty sure you > know what it > is, and you've probably had it recommended to you as > beneficial for > Irritable Bowel Syndrome. But soluble fiber? Is this > something > special? Yes, it is. > > Soluble fiber is the single greatest dietary aid for > preventing > Irritable Bowel Syndrome symptoms in the first place, > as well as > relieving them once they occur. Here's the kicker. > Soluble fiber is > NOT typically found in foods most people think of as > " fiber, " such > as bran or raw leafy green vegetables. Soluble fiber > is actually > found in foods commonly thought of as " starches " , > though soluble > fiber itself differs from starch as the chemical bonds > that join its > individual sugar units cannot be digested by enzymes > in the human GI > tract. In other words, soluble fiber has no calories > because it > passes through the body intact. > > Soluble Fiber Foods ~ the Basis of the IBS Diet- > > As a general rule, the grain and cereal foods at the > top of this > list make the safest, easiest, and most versatile > soluble fiber > foundations for your meals and snacks. > > Rice > Pasta and noodles > Oatmeal > Barley > tortillas > non-gmo Soy > Quinoa > Potatoes > Carrots > Yams > Sweet potatoes > Turnips > Rutabagas > Parsnips > Beets > Squash and pumpkins > Mushrooms > Chestnuts > Avocados > Bananas > Applesauce > Mangoes > Papayas > > > > > > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > http://launch./promos/britneyspears/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 I hate to say this, but I have IBS, and one of the worst things I did was use FOS. It majorly aggravated my IBS, and it took a lot of work to get it calmed back down again. It turns out that FOS not only feeds good bacteria, but also some types of bad bacteria. It may be useful for preventing disbiosis, but once disbiosis sets up, it can make things much worse. So can arabinogalactins, and other types of fiber and carbohydrates that are often promoted as good for intestinal health. Good pathogens eat some of the same things as bad pathogens, and feeding good pathogens in the presence of bad pathogens just compounds the problem. And for the record, eating a low carbohydrate diet with no grains and little fruit has allowed me to gain control of my IBS and help correct the disbiosis. But it took me years to figure out that they were making things worse, not better, because they are erroneously promoted as being so healthy for people. However, disbiosis is only part of the picture with IBS for many people. Even after correcting the disbiosis, I still continued to have problems. It turns out that I had other pathogens elsewhere that were triggering inflammation, which in turn lowered MSH levels. (In my case, I have Lyme, and staph. aureus, as well as a myriad of viruses) MSH is a hormone that not only allows a person to tan, but has many other functions, including acting like a master hormone in the hypothalamus, pituitary and pineal gland which in turn affects digestion, adrenal function, circadian rhythms, and even immune function, AND it also directly kills both candida and staphylococcus aureus. Controlling inflammation elsewhere in the body can help reduce intestinal disbiosis by raising MSH levels, which in turn corrects immune function, digestion, and directly kills some of the pathogens that contribute to IBS, and elsewhere in the body. It didn't matter how many colon cleanses I did, or probiotics I took, or digestive enzymes, or anticandida supplements, or antiparastitic supplements, or whatever. And the suggested HSO probiotics, FOS and grains and fruit were disasters for me. I remained susceptible to staph and candida as long as my MSH levels were deficient, and I'd become reinfected as soon as I stopped whatever I was using to kill them off, and eventually they developed resistance to what I was using. Staph in the sinuses, staph in teeth, staph in inner ear fluid, etc., can indirectly contribute to IBS, even if it is not directly connected with the intestinal tract. It can set up residency in bones and skin and impact the body through the production of toxins. Both staph and candida produce toxins that act as neurotoxins that can pass through the skin, through the tissues of the body, and be recirculated over and over in the body. The intestinal tract, like the brain, is controlled by neurochemicals, and is impacted by neurotoxins. Even if the neurotoxins are not produced in the intestinal tract, they are lipid soluble, and circulate through the bile into the intestinal tract and into the nerve endings in the intestinal tract, affecting intestinal function. Even in an intestinal tract with a healthy flora, neurotoxins elsewhere can trigger IBS symptoms. And of course, mercury can act as a neurotoxin, and cause similar problems. Because of the neurochemical connection, antidepressants are often prescribed to people with IBS to help control symptoms when diet changes don't help. But getting rid of the source of the neurotoxins, and detoxifying the body of them is a far better route to take. I would highly suggest that you look up information on Pubmed about MSH. Read Dr. Shoemaker's book " Desperation Medicine. " Although IBS is generally thought of as an intestinal problem, people with IBS very frequently have symptoms that overlap with other neurotoxic related illnesses like Multiple Chemical Sensitivities, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Fibromyalgia, and other illnesses. And eating grains and fruit don't do much to treat those illnesses, because they can't bind with the toxins and eliminate them, and they don't kill the pathogens that produce the neurotoxins. In my case, I'm still working on trying to eliminate Lyme. But at the least, I've managed to eliminate IBS symptoms. And on a low carbohydrate diet, I might add. Linda Jones lindaj - " JoAnn Guest " <angelprincessjo Wednesday, October 29, 2003 9:25 PM Re: The Irritable Bowel Syndrome Good Guy > ---Good Evening, > An imbalance of the gut flora, termed `dysbiosis' is indicated by > symptoms such as IBS, diarrhea, constipation and a lack of natural > energy. > > Among the foods that encourage the growth of friendly bacteria are > fruit and vegetables, pulses and whole grains such as that which is > found in " kefir " . > while pathogens thrive on sugary,high protein and refined foods. > > Fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS) is a well researched substance that > feeds only friendly bacteria. Because it is a type of fibre, it > passes undigested through the stomach and then arrives intact in the > intestine where it stimulates the growth of helpful " gut " bacteria. > > FOS serves as a food for friendly bacteria, which *aids* our > digestion > by " fermenting " undigested food and increasing elimination of toxins. > > FOS may be useful in treating conditions like > irritable bowel syndrome. > > Artichoke, bananas, leeks and asparagus are the richest food sources > of FOS and it is also incorporated into supplements. known as > prebiotics. FOS is also present in papaya and pineapple, however in > much smaller amounts. > > Probiotics, literally meaning " pro life " , are foods or supplements > that actually contain a dose, > usually in the billions, of live bacteria of the kind that naturally > grow in the gut. > > Best Regards, > JoAnn > > > In , Zamyrabyrd > <zamyrabyrd> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have had IBS for years and I must respectfully > > disagree about soluble fiber in foods that have a high > > carbohydrate rating. For me they are simply disasters. > > Part of the problem may be grain allergy and/or > > sensitivity to gluten. Carbs when not digested > > properly DO ferment and cause a LOT of trouble in the > > gut. So I personally try to stay away from them even > > though they are EVERYWHERE. If I don't then there is > > hell to pay. Fruit should also be regarded with > > moderation and even caution. I don't know why " pasta " > > has become so respectable even in for people who are > > trying to lose weight. If one considers the amount of > > (white) flour pasta contains, then for sure it will > > become clear that it's just another glorified wheat > > product. > > > > ZB > > > > > > The Irritable Bowel Syndrome Good Guy > > > > Hmmm....You've heard of fiber, you're pretty sure you > > know what it > > is, and you've probably had it recommended to you as > > beneficial for > > Irritable Bowel Syndrome. But soluble fiber? Is this > > something > > special? Yes, it is. > > > > Soluble fiber is the single greatest dietary aid for > > preventing > > Irritable Bowel Syndrome symptoms in the first place, > > as well as > > relieving them once they occur. Here's the kicker. > > Soluble fiber is > > NOT typically found in foods most people think of as > > " fiber, " such > > as bran or raw leafy green vegetables. Soluble fiber > > is actually > > found in foods commonly thought of as " starches " , > > though soluble > > fiber itself differs from starch as the chemical bonds > > that join its > > individual sugar units cannot be digested by enzymes > > in the human GI > > tract. In other words, soluble fiber has no calories > > because it > > passes through the body intact. > > > > Soluble Fiber Foods ~ the Basis of the IBS Diet- > > > > As a general rule, the grain and cereal foods at the > > top of this > > list make the safest, easiest, and most versatile > > soluble fiber > > foundations for your meals and snacks. > > > > Rice > > Pasta and noodles > > Oatmeal > > Barley > > tortillas > > non-gmo Soy > > Quinoa > > Potatoes > > Carrots > > Yams > > Sweet potatoes > > Turnips > > Rutabagas > > Parsnips > > Beets > > Squash and pumpkins > > Mushrooms > > Chestnuts > > Avocados > > Bananas > > Applesauce > > Mangoes > > Papayas > > > > > > > > > > > > Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears > > http://launch./promos/britneyspears/ > > > > JOIN OUR NEW MESSAGE BOARDS HERE. > http://alternative-medicine-message-boards.info > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. 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