Essiac: Nature's Cure for Cancer

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Essiac: Nature's cure for cancer

An Interview With DR. GARY L. GLUM

By Elisabeth Robinson

 

Introduction

Rene Caisse was a nurse living in Canada who for a period of almost sixty years

treated hundreds of people with a herbal remedy she called Essiac. She

discovered this natural remedy through a patient in the hospital where she

worked who had been cured of cancer. The patient had used a herbal remedy given

to her by an 0jibwa herbalist.

 

Rene left the hospital in 1922 at the age of 33, and went to Bracebridge,

Ontario, Canada where she began administering Essiac to all who came to her.

 

The majority of those whom she treated came on referral with letters from their

physicians certifying they had incurable or terminal forms of cancer and that

they had been given up by the medical profession as untreatable.

 

Rene began gathering the plants and preparing the herbal remedy herself in her

own kitchen, in a building lent to her for her patients. She administered Essiac

both orally and by injection.

 

In cases where there was severe damage to life support organs, her patients died

but they lived far longer than the medical profession had predicted, and, more

significantly, they lived free of pain.

 

Still others, listed as hopeless and terminal, but without severe damage to life

support organs, were cured and lived 35, 45 years ( many are still living ).

 

So startling was the effectiveness of this simple herbal remedy, that it could

not be ignored, and the Canadian Ministry of Health and Welfare and the

Parliament became involved. Friends, former patients, and grateful families

petitioned Canadian officialdom for Rene Caisse's right to administer the remedy

to anyone who asked for it without the threat of interference from the

authorities.

 

Fifty five thousand signatures were collected on the petition. In 1938, Essiac

came within three votes of being legalized by the Ontario government as a

natural remedy for terminal cancer patients. The story of Rene Caisse, her life,

her work, and the effectiveness of the remedy she named Essiac, is told in a

book “Calling of an Angel” by Dr. Gary Glum of Los Angeles.

 

After reading the book and finding it to be informative, well documented and

moving, I decided to interview Dr. Glum I verified the basic information in his

book through Canadian sources, one an herbalist who knows Rene Caisse and her

work, and who has personally made, and successfully used, Essiac.

 

Dr. Gary L. Glum, until two years ago, was a Chiropractor with offices in Los

Angeles, California. His clients included well known professional athletic teams

and Olympic teams. In 1988 Dr. Glum published “Calling of an Angel”, the story

of Rene Caisse and Essiac. Two years ago he closed his practice and now devotes

his time to investigative writing.

 

As I completed my second conversation with Dr. Glum, he said, " You're opening a

Pandora's Box here, publishing this interview about Essiac " . I disagree, but

began thinking about “Pandora's box " .

 

In the story of Pandora most well known today, she is sent by the gods to curse

humanity for offending them. Pandora is given a " box " or container with

instructions not to open it, which the gods know she will disobey. When Pandora

does open the box, famine, war, plague, disease, pestilence, all the ills of

humankind are released. Then at the last comes hope, as antidote to despair. But

according to Barbara Walker's Encyclopedia, Pandora whose name means " all

giving " was originally an image for Mother Earth. She had, not a box, but a

honey vase like the cornucopia from which flowed all life and creativity, as

well as death and rebirth. Earth's gift to her children. Because we are natural

beings in a natural world, it seems appropriate that a simple remedy composed of

four common herbs, gifts of Earth, would suggest so much promise for us today.

 

 

 

 

 

INTERVIEW WITH DR. GLUM

Elisabeth Robinson :

To begin with Dr. Glum, can you tell us a little about how you became interested

in the story you tell in “Calling of an Angel”, and how you learned about Rene

Caisse and her work?

 

Dr. Gary Glum :

A personal friend of mine knew this woman, whose name I have promised not to

reveal, who was living in Detroit, Michigan. Twenty years ago she had been

diagnosed with cervical cancer in a Detroit hospital where she was eventually

given up as incurable and terminal. She was given about ten days to live.

 

She convinced her husband to make a trip to Bracebridge Canada, where she went

to see Rene Caisse. She was treated with a herbal remedy developed by Rene-

Essiac- and in a short time she didn't have a cancer cell in her body.

 

So, after that time, this woman began dedicating her life to disseminating

information about Essiac in the United States. When I met her, she was the only

person in possession of the original herbal formula who would relinquish it.

I've got the formula for Essiac from her. That's how it began.

 

When I started, all I had was a piece of paper. I thought: " What am I going to

do with this? " I decided the best way to go, would be to find the information

behind Essiac and put it in book form to bring it to the world.

 

I learned about Rene Caisse from Mary McPherson who was a very close friend of

Rene's (not only a friend but also a patient). Mary's mother and her husband

were also patients. They were all treated for cancer and cured by Rene. Mary

worked with Rene beginning in the 1930s and she had in her possession all these

documents that had to do with Essiac for over 40 years. Rene administered it.

ll the documents Rene had were destroyed by the Canadian Ministry of Health &

Welfare at the time of her death in 1978. They burned all that information in

fifty five gallon drums behind her home.

 

ER: Why?

 

GG: Because they don't want this information in the hands of the public or the

press or anybody else. They indeed found out what Essiac was in 1937. The Royal

Cancer Commission hearings then, had come to the same conclusions that Rene had,

that Essiac was a cure for cancer.

 

ER: What is Essiac exactly?

 

GG: Essiac is a non toxic herbal cure for cancer that's been with us since 1922.

It's a formula made from four very common herbs.

 

 

ER: I would guess that virtually every person in the US today has been touched

by cancer, either personally or through a loved one. If this information is

true, and the effectiveness of this remedy is actually medically documented,

many lives could be saved. Why do you think the information on Essiac is not

more widely known?

 

 

GG: The information is withheld because cancer is the second largest

revenue-producing business in the world, next to the petrochemical business.

Money and power suppress this truth. No one has ever sought to cure cancer only

to control it. I mean the research institutes, federal governments,

pharmaceutical companies, anybody that has a vested interest in the health care

of cancer, including the American Cancer Society, Canadian Cancer Society, any

of these so called benefactors to those who have contracted this disease all of

these institutions are involved in the money and power around cancer. These

institutions have influence over Government and regulatory agencies such as the

Food and Drug Administration.

The FDA recommends only allopathic treatments for cancer and other life

threatening diseases. It does not approve nor make legal, alternative treatments

of any kind.

 

ER: You're saying that Essiac is in a position similar to, for example,

laetrile.

 

GG: Yes, the only reason laetrile was stopped (and it couldn't be stopped any

other way) was through the insurance companies. The insurance companies sent

down a directive to all allopathic physicians stating that they could not cover

them in any malpractice suit in the event they were treating people with any

substance not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

 

 

ER: In your book you mention that Brusch Clinic in Massachusetts worked with

Rene Caisse and Essiac, during the early 1960s. Is this clinic still doing

research with Essiac?

 

 

GG: Dr. Charles A. Brusch is not practicing this time. He was a personal

physician to the late President John F. Kennedy Dr. Brusch worked with Rene

Caisse from 1959 to 1962. He worked with thousands of cancer patients.

 

He also worked with the Presidential Cancer Commission, with others like Dr.

Armand Hammer, the American Cancer Society, and the National Cancer Institute.

Dr. Brusch presented his findings after ten years of research. He had come to

the conclusion that, in his own words.

 

" Essiac is a cure for cancer, period, all studies done at laboratories in the

United States and Canada support this conclusion. "

 

Whereupon the federal government issued a gag order and said " you've got one of

two choices, either you keep quiet about this or we'll haul you off to military

prison and you'll never be heard of again”. So we never heard another word out

of him.

 

Brusch's Essiac patients included Ted Kennedy's son who had a sarcoma in his

leg. And who had his leg amputated.

 

He was being treated at the time by the Farber Cancer Institute in Boston,

Massachusetts. Dr. Farber didn't know how to save him, because no one had ever

lived with this type of sarcoma.

 

So what he did was go to Dr. Brusch and say, how are we going to save Ted

Kennedy's son? And Dr. Brusch made the suggestion to put him on Essiac, and

after they did, he didn't have a cancer cell in his body.

 

But all this information has been hidden from the general public.

 

ER: Why?

 

GG: As I said money and power.

 

ER: Do you know whether the remedy is being used or tested anywhere today in the

US or Canada?

 

GG: Right now Essiac is being used in every state in the United States, it's

throughout Canada, into Mexico, it's in Austria, Europe, Asia and recently also

in Africa. So the message of Essiac is beginning to make its way world wide. But

it's still known only on a limited basis. Of course now you also have the

problem of herbal distribution companies throughout the world that are

substituting yellow dock and curly dock for sheep's sorrel, which is one of the

critical ingredients in Essiac.

 

The sheep sorrel is the herbal ingredient in Essiac that was found to be

responsible for the destruction of cancer cells in the body, or their

amalgamation where metastasized cancer cells actually return to the original

tumor site.

 

That research was done by Dr. Chester Stock at Sloan Kettering in New York for

over a three year period yet they gave it to the Canadian Ministry of Health &

Welfare. The Canadian Government then immediately banned that herb for sale and

distribution.

 

ER: Banned a common weed like sheep's sorrel?

 

GG: Yes, sheep's sorrel is just a common weed that crows in abundance throughout

North America and into Canada. Just a common weed. Note: After this interview

was completed, Wildfire learned from an herbalist in Canada that the Canadian

government has recently banned St. John's Wort, also a common weed frequently

used by herbalists.

 

ER: Well, it seems that banning sheep's sorrel would not be very effective if

you could identify it for yourself.

 

GG: Yes, it's just a question of identifying the plant and then harvesting it

correctly and drying it properly and then putting it together with the other

herbs. Rene would harvest the sheep's sorrel Rumex acetosella when it was four

to six inches high. She cut it back and it would grow up again , and she'd cut

it back again. She would do that about three times and then she would let it go

to seed. It will grow to 14 or 18 inches. She would take the herb cuttings home

and lay them out at room temperature to dry them. She'd let the cuttings sit

there for three or four days before she'd begin turning the herbs. Then she'd

turn them every two days until they were properly dry, which took about ten days

to two weeks. It takes about a bushel of harvested sheep's sorrel to produce one

pound of the dried powdered herb which is used in the formula.

 

ER: Do you have the formula? It's not in your book. You do mention a video in

the book.

 

GG: Yes, I have it. Anyone can get it from me, free of charge. We don't sell the

video anymore. We simply mail the formula to anyone who asks for it.

 

ER: Sun Bear told me that you had problems getting the book published and

distributed. What kind of problems?

 

GG: There wasn't a publishing company that would publish it. No one wanted to

run the risk of a wrongful death suit. So I published the book myself. And as

soon as I did, the IRS came in and slapped about a half million dollars in tax

liens against me and said " you know this has got nothing to do with taxes.

 

It's all about cancer''. They actually started hauling the pallets of books out

of my medical practice offices and confiscated them. I also had thousands of

books that were confiscated by the Canadian government at customs. I have never

received any of those books back. The only ones I have now are hidden in storage

facilities.

 

ER: That's incredible Why do you think they are so interested in keeping this

book out of circulation?

 

GG: Money and power, as I have said. Cancer is the largest revenue producing

business in the world next to the petrochemical basins. In Canada the book is

being held up by the Ministry of Health & Welfare because they say it is

" advertising . "

 

ER: Advertising what? The video you don't sell anymore.

 

GG: No, a cure for cancer.

 

ER: Can you explain what you mean by the publishers fearing a wrongful death

suit?

 

GG: What you're dealing with is giving people a formula that they can make and

use in the privacy of their own homes without the approval of the AMA or FDA or

anybody else. If any attorney or any family member should decide, for whatever

reason, that the reason someone expired was from the use of Essiac, then you are

putting yourself up for a wrongful death suit. The contention is that if it

isn't approved by the Food and Drug Administration, there's no legality in using

it when you're dealing with a life threatening disease.

 

When Rene Caisse set up her clinical trials in Canada to test Essiac, she was

given government permission to treat terminally ill cancer patients who had been

given up for hopeless by the medical profession. That was one criterion

Secondly, this was all to be certified by a pathology report. And third, she

could not charge anything for her services.

 

She agreed to all these criteria and proceeded to treat people with Essiac. Many

she treated were still there 35 years later to bury her when she died at the age

of 90. The best that anyone can do is just try to disseminate this information

to the public and let people make their own choices. That's all you can do.

 

And just say, look, if you feel that Essiac has value in your life and the

lives of your loved ones, you have the right to make this remedy and use it in

the privacy of your own home and without anyone's approval.

 

You know, in 1937 Essiac came within three votes of being legalized as a

treatment for cancer. People had gathered over fifty five thousand signatures on

a petition to allow Rene to continue to use Essiac.

 

The only reason the vote fell short, she found out years later, was that the

College of Physicians and Surgeons met and said to Parliament, if you don't

respond to the political pressure and legalize Essiac, then we'll take a sincere

look and give this woman a fair hearing.

So Parliament didn't legalize Essiac. However, following the Royal Cancer

Commission hearings, Rene was allowed to continue her practice but only within

the criteria I mentioned before, which allowed the Ministry of Health & Welfare

to restrict people's access to Essiac treatments. I know this because I have a

copy of the hearing transcripts which I got from Mary McPherson, which is part

of the information that did not get burned when Rene died.

 

ER: You mentioned that earlier. What exactly was burned?

 

GG: All her research for that 40 year period of time. All the names, all her

clinical data that she had collected. Her files and records.

 

ER: What about the records of the Brusch Clinic? It seems these would be

convincing evidence.

 

GG: As far as I know all that material has been destroyed also. I knew that Rene

had worked with Dr. Brusch from 1959 to 1962, so I went to Dr. Brusch's home in

Cambridge, Massachusetts, whereupon he delivered to me the only material he had

left in his files on Essiac. One of those files was his own personal file where

he had treated and cured his own cancer with Essiac. I have his personal

records. All the information in my book is verified by a sheet of paper with a

signature and a date on it, and those sheets and signatures are all originals.

They are not copies.

 

ER: Have you had any personal experiences with Essiac?

 

GG: Yes, I can give you an example. He was a twelve year old boy named Toby

Wood. He had acute lymphoblastic, which is one of the most virulent of all

leukemias. He had been on chemotherapy for four years and radiation for three.

His mother's only hope in life was to find a cure for him. She went everywhere.

She tried every alternative treatment. Her last stop was Dr. Alvazado in Athens,

Greece where her son's white cell count was 186,000. He had no red blood cells

and no platelets. He was hemorrhaging to death. So they transfused Toby in

Greece and put him on a plane to Alaska where he was given less than five days

to live.

 

I met his mother's sister in Los Angeles while I was putting the book together

and she asked if there was any credibility here. We sat down and talked. She

then borrowed the money for a flight to Anchorage, and delivered a bottle of

Essiac.

 

By the time she got there Toby was given three days to live. He was in a state

of complete deterioration.

 

He was given the Essiac and all the hemorrhaging stopped within 24 hours.

Within three months all his blood tests were normal. I arrived in Alaska later

that year and met him. Toby Wood did die, and we finally found a pathologist who

would do an exhaustive autopsy.

 

We knew that he didn't have leukemia any more. We wanted to find out what was

the cause of death. It took four months to get the report back. The pathologist

autopsied the brain, testicles, and all life support organs, including the bone

marrow. No blast cells were found in any life support organ. No blast cells were

found in the bone marrow. There were a few stray cells in the testicles and in

the brain. Cause of death was damage to the myocardial sac of the heart, a

result of the chemotherapy.

 

 

 

This was the first report anywhere in medical history of anyone surviving

lymphoblastic leukemia. That information was taken to AP and UPI but they said

it was not newsworthy. Our information on Essiac has been sent round the world

twice through Publisher’s Weekly magazine in a huge two page ad. We received no

response at all from any publishing company world wide, no producers, directors,

throughout the United States, no talk show programs, none of that. We can't

access the media.

 

In fact we talked to Philip Scheffler, producer of 60 Minutes. He read the book

and we called him to ask what he was going to do about it. He said, nothing. I

said, all the information in the book is verifiable. In other words it's the

truth. I said, if you're 60 Minutes why don't you expose me and Essiac as a

fraud? He said, nope, can't do it. We took it to Joe Donally who's the executive

news producer for ABC in New York. We said why not give it to Peter Jennings,

Geraldo Rivera, Ted Koppel, one of those. He said nope.

 

We asked why not. He said because his phone lines would be invaded with 65.000

phone calls. We said, " how sympathetic do you think a parent whose child is

dying of leukemia, would be to your 65,000 phone calls? " He went on to say he's

got a mortgage on his house and is looking toward retirement. So that's the

problem. No-one wants this information disseminated.

 

And it's not just the media, either. It includes the herbal companies who now

substituting the curly dock for sheep's sorrel.

 

So people are getting the wrong ingredients for Essiac, not to mention the five

or six other formulas that are circulating which are different from the one I

sent out. These false formulas are being disseminated. There is a misinformation

campaign going on here somehow.

 

ER: Has this misinformation campaign started just since your book has been out?

 

GG: Previous to my book, none of this information was available to the general

public at all. The public had no information outside of a few assorted articles.

Certainly the Essiac formula was not available to the general public at all. All

that information was held by the Resperin Corporation in Toronto, Canada, which

supposedly is a private institution.

 

However, they worked hand in glove with the Canadian Ministry of Health &

Welfare, who work directly with the American Food and Drug Administration and

the National Cancer Institute in Bethesda, Maryland. The Essiac formula was

never given to anyone by Resperin.

 

ER: Did the Resperin Corporation do any research on Essiac?

 

GG: They've done research since 1973 when the formula was relinquished to them

by Rene for the purchase price of one dollar. As soon as they got the formula,

they told Rene they had no further use of her. She had been under the distinct

impression from the Ministry of Health & Welfare and the Resperin Corporation

that she was to lead the research activities that they so desperately wanted to

put together.

 

But Rene had already done clinical trials. She had names and records. She

thought that Resperin Corporation was politically powerful and had money enough

to get Essiac into the private sector without compromising her values. Then she

found out that the Corporation was working closely with the government and

administration and the Ministry of Health & Welfare.

So now people who were terminally ill and given up as hopeless had to go through

a federal bureaucratic maze to get the remedy. By then, for the most of these

people, it was too late. But even when people were cured, that information was

not released to the public. Resperin ran research tests on Essiac.

One test was conducted in Northern Canada and documents were falsified. For

example, one man was listed as dead who a few months later knocked on Rene's

door and said, you know I want to thank you for the Essiac and being part of

this experimental program. Yet he was listed as dead in the research project

findings.

 

ER: It's beginning to seem amazing to me that any information at all about this

remedy has survived the " conspiracy of silence " or outright destruction of

records and so on.

 

GG: The only reason Essiac is known today is by word of mouth and because Essiac

is what it is. What will keep Essiac known is its effectiveness. Rene said it

years ago. She said, look, if Essiac doesn't have any merit, it will kill

itself. Of course she knew full well that if people had the correct herbs, the

remedy would stand on its own. And that is exactly what Essiac has done over

this period of time that we've been disseminating the information.

 

Rene also found that Essiac was a strong preventive. These findings were

substantiated by Dr. Albert Schatz at Temple University who discovered the cure

for tuberculosis., Rene also found that Essiac would normalize the thyroid

gland. My wife was on grains of thyroid since the sixth grade. After I met her,

she started taking Essiac, and she hasn't taken a grain of thyroid since.

Rene also found that Essiac would

heal stomach ulcers within three or four weeks.

 

She felt that ulcers were a precursor to cancer. Sir Frederick Banting, the CO

discoverer of insulin, wanted to work with Rene. She had clinical cases where a

person on insulin discontinued it with the Essiac, although no one knew how

Essiac would interact with the insulin.

 

Apparently Essiac regulated the pancreas in cases of diabetes mellitus. So these

people then became insulin free. Another thing I've found with Essiac is that

I've experienced almost perfect health. As you get older you think well, I'm

forty now, these thins happen. Well, these things don't have to happen. Since

I've taken Essiac, I've experienced perfect health. It's amazing. I sleep like a

baby, have all kinds of energy, and no sickness, not even a cold or the flu. I

also worked with the AIDS Project Los Angeles through their Long Beach and San

Padre districts.

 

They had sent 179 patients home to die. They all had pneumocystis carinii and

histoplasmosis. Their weight was down to about 100 pounds. Their T 4 cell counts

were less than ten. The Project gave me five of these patients. I took them off

the AZT and the DDI and put them on Essiac three times daily. Those are the only

ones alive today, the other 174 are dead.

 

ER: That is incredible, but what kind of lives are they dealing with today?

 

GG: They're exercising three times a day, eating three meals a day. Their weight

is back to normal. For all intents and purposes you wouldn't know they were sick

a day in their lives. But this information is not disseminated either because

AIDS is on the horizon as another big money maker. The chairman of the AIDS

project in Los Angeles makes over $100,000 a year. Even the alternative health

care professionals are out there to control, not to cure. Alternative medical

practice is just as mercenary and deceptive as the allopathic. No one wants a

cure for cancer or AIDS.

 

The alternative people are also into it for money. What you're finding with

Essiac is that it is not even allowed into the arenas of alternative health

care. So really what you've got out here is people continually perpetrating

these lies against mankind. For money. For money and power. It's that simple.

Really once you think about it, the only reason we don't have solar power is

that no one's figured out a way to sell EXXON the sun. It's true. If they could,

you'd have solar power. You know you'd have it.

 

ER: So in your own personal experience, this herbal remedy works to I'm going to

just quote you here and say " cure " cancer, thyroid conditions, diabetes, AIDS,

ulcers .....

 

GG: It also cures the common cold. Essiac elevates the immune system. I've been

taking one ounce a day for seven years, and in seven years I haven't had a cold,

flu or virus.

 

ER: And all of this from a simple Native herbal remedy.?

 

GG: Yes although Rene did alter it. She altered it with Turkish rhubarb root (

Rheum palmatum ). Turkish rhubarb has a 5,000 year history. It actually came up

from India into China and then was taken by the British.

 

ER: Turkish rhubarb root is not native in this country, nor available here.

Herbals from foreign countries are fumigated and irradiated, so is it a good

idea to use the Turkish rhubarb?

 

GG: You can substitute ordinary rhubarb root. The other two ingredients are

burdock root (Arctium lappa) and the inner bark of slippery elm (Ulmus fulva).

They are easy to obtain, usually.

 

Sheep's sorrel (Rumex acetosella) is what destroys the cancer cells. The other

three herbs are blood purifiers.

 

Essiac elevates the enzyme system and gives all cancer patients and all AIDS

patients the enzymes that have been destroyed. Essiac elevates the enzyme

system; it elevates the hormone system, so the body can cure its own disease.

 

ER: What about quantities? Some herbals are toxic.

 

GG: Even its worst enemy could never lay claim that Essiac had any deleterious

side effects whatever. You can take Essiac safely (through all the clinical

trials that have been done), up to six ounces a day. That's two ounces in the

evening, two in the morning and two around noontime. That's high dosage. Rene

had the correct herbs and she used as little as one ounce a week.

 

But look at the difference between then and now. The food didn’t have

carcinogens in it, and neither did the water, nor the air. So what have we done?

We've killed the air, killed the water, killed the food. So what's left? Nation

wide, in the water we drink, over 2,100 organic and inorganic chemicals have

been identified, and 156 of them are pure carcinogens.

 

Of those, if you have a tumor, 26 are tumor promoting, so they make the tumor

larger. But of course this information is not available to the public either.

Those figures are from the tests conducted by the Environmental Protection

Agency which have never been distributed to the public.

 

ER: How did you get the information?

 

GG: From Ralph Nader organization out of Washington, DC The media have not

disseminated this information. Another problem is that very few people read

books any more. We can hope that they'll read “Calling of an Angel” of course,

the problem right now is people getting the right herbs.

 

ER: Anything you'd like to add before we close this interview.?

 

GG: I would like to say that I didn't do all this research because I felt I have

a responsibility to other people. I did it because I have a responsibility to

myself, knowing that I've done all that I can to disseminate this information

and bring it to the people. I was the first person to release this information

on Essiac, how to make it, to the general public and say: " Here it is, here's the

formula, here's the story. "

 

So now, it's out there and look what's happening: it's getting killed through a

misinformation campaign; I mean Harvard, Temple, Tufts, Northwestern University,

Chicago all these institutions have tested Essiac with the right stuff, and they

all came to the same conclusion as Rene Caisse did. But all the information is

being buried.

 

ER: Gary, it's been very interesting to speak with you.

 

GG: It's been a pleasure. You're opening Pandora's Box, you know, publishing

this interview.

 

 

 

The article concludes: " Essiac is not a hoax or fraud. To hear experiences

described by patients themselves cannot help, but convince observers, that

dramatic and beneficial changes definitely took place in many of those who

received the remedy. Although the focus on Essiac has been as a cancer

treatment, it alleviated and sometimes cured many chronic and degenerative

conditions because it cleanses the blood as well as the liver and strengthens

the immune system. "

 

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