Guest guest Posted November 6, 2004 Report Share Posted November 6, 2004 Isn't there a temperature test where you take your temperature every morning upon awakening? (I'm tossing that out to the group.) You can get Doc's tape by emailing him and asking for it. Email him at the address below. There's no charge. And if you listen to it and send him the waiver/release form, he'll give you a free telephone consultation. Sharyn epdeans1 [epdeans1] Are there any tests that can be done without going to a MD for? Also, where can I get the docs tape? ***** Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release 11/1/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 I too have been wondering where to get the tapes so I tried the following address and it was not deliverable. Dr.IanShillington Did I miss something? This was the only address I saw but I have been know to overlook things in plain veiw before.Sharyn Cerniglia <sharyn.cerniglia wrote: Isn't there a temperature test where you take your temperature every morningupon awakening? (I'm tossing that out to the group.)You can get Doc's tape by emailing him and asking for it. Email him at theaddress below. There's no charge. And if you listen to it and send him thewaiver/release form, he'll give you a free telephone consultation.Sharyn epdeans1 [epdeans1] Are there any tests that can be done without going to a MD for? Also, where can I get the docs tape?*****Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/1/2004your friend, Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Najma Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women www.najmasnatural.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Glyconutrients would be a good start. Have you tried them? Happy , Najma Zaman <najmazaman wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? > > Najma > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Biofeedback! I work on Clients with CFS frequently. As it is connected to the Epstein Barr's Virus. Jenny Kernan Biofeedback Therapist Quantum Biofeedback Therapy Remote Healing or Local Sessions www.quantumassociatesofutah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Jenny Thanks for your reply. I looked up Epstein Barr virus in wikipedia and found the following - " In the late 1980s and early 1990s, EBV became the favoured explanation for chronic fatigue syndrome. It was noted that people complaining of characteristic exhaustion had EBV, although it was also noted EBV was present in almost everyone, even those not complaining of exhaustion. In a four year study, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found no association between CFS and infection by a wide variety of human pathogens, including EBV. The chronic fatigue syndrome is what people usually mean if they say they " have Epstein-Barr " . " Najma Jenny Kernan <rainysnana wrote: Biofeedback! I work on Clients with CFS frequently. As it is connected to the Epstein Barr's Virus. Jenny Kernan Biofeedback Therapist Quantum Biofeedback Therapy Remote Healing or Local Sessions www.quantumassociatesofutah.com Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women www.najmasnaturals.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 You're correct. However you choose to call it, it remains a devastating virus that handicaps those that have it. I work on the body by energetically zapping the pathogen and changing how the body reacts to it. When the body changes from an Exhausted state back to an alarm state...the body will naturally eliminate it from the body. Cleanses and detoxing , getting the elimination system to work properly will help to prevent reoccurance along with changes in diet. I don't personally put much into what any government agency has to say...especially when it has anything to do with the AMA. Jenny Kernan Biofeedback Therapist Quantum Biofeedback Therapy Remote Healing or Local Sessions www.quantumassociatesofutah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Namja, E-B is a virus and should respond to the Bob Beck protocol of frequencies, col. silver and ozone. The full protocol involved 3 machines but Bob Beck said that the Silver Pulser alone should do it. It does the first two and has been sucessful with cancer, Aides, Hep. C and many other diseases. See sotainstruments.com for more info. The new price on the Silver Pulser Lite is $115. Or you can try other frequency machines such as Rife or the vibe machine. See: vibemachine.com to see if someone has a machine near you that you can use. If you want more info on free Rife using your computer, I wrote a paper on this. If anyone would like a copy, send me an e-mail and I will send it to you for free. Namaste, David divya4753 In , Najma Zaman <najmazaman wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? > > Najma > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 , " divya4753 " <divya4753 wrote: > > Hi Namja, > E-B is a virus and should respond to the Bob Beck protocol > of frequencies, col. silver and ozone. > The full protocol involved 3 machines but Bob Beck said that > the Silver Pulser alone should do it. It does the first two and has > been sucessful with cancer, Aides, Hep. C and many other diseases. > See sotainstruments.com for more info. The new price on the Silver > Pulser Lite is $115. > Or you can try other frequency machines such as Rife or > the vibe machine. > See: vibemachine.com to see if someone has a machine near you > that you can use. > If you want more info on free Rife using your computer, I wrote a > paper on this. If anyone would like a copy, > send me an e-mail and I will send it to you for free. > Namaste, > David > divya4753 > > > > In , Najma Zaman <najmazaman@> > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > Najma > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 What is CFS? Jenny Kernan <rainysnana wrote: You're correct. However you choose to call it, it remains a devastating virus that handicaps those that have it. I work on the body by energetically zapping the pathogen and changing how the body reacts to it. When the body changes from an Exhausted state back to an alarm state...the body will naturally eliminate it from the body. Cleanses and detoxing , getting the elimination system to work properly will help to prevent reoccurance along with changes in diet. I don't personally put much into what any government agency has to say...especially when it has anything to do with the AMA. Jenny Kernan Biofeedback Therapist Quantum Biofeedback Therapy Remote Healing or Local Sessions www.quantumassociatesofutah.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Currently on one knows exactly the cause of CFS. So there is no cure at this time. patient can take some medicine for fatigue, stress, anxiety, depends on the syndromes. A few factors may cause CFS: virus, poor immune system, and mental problems. Our EEG studies indicate the brain activities of CFS patients are different from that of healthy control. Wang Qiang Http://www.tcmdepot.com , Najma Zaman <najmazaman wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? > > Najma > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 CFS is a nightmare of a disease. It may well be more than one disease, we don't really know much about it. Most people who work with natural health products will have a bunch of testimonials from people who swear that their stuff is the cure for CFS. It all works for some, and nothing works for all. The son of a good friend had it for 7 years. It started out like a flu that just wouldn't go away. He tried all sorts of things that all had worked for some other people. Massive supplements, cleanses, diets, juicing. He just got worse. After a few months he decided to stop all supplements and refused to try anything else. He was so weak he would faint if he got vertical. Having a shower would exhaust him for 2 days. What finally got him over the hump was two substances that his mother could sneak into his food without him noticing them. It took a while. Maca, the superfood from the Andes, and Pascalite, the healing fossil clay from Wyoming, did the trick. Both are white powder and relatively tasteless. Maca is all-over food for the glandular system that provides B vitamins, plant sterols, and amino acids. Pascalite acts as a natural bowel cleanser and also as a chelator. Clay may not be as dramatic as zeolite, because it doesn't have the hollow spaces, but it does have the negative charge and has been used as a cleanser for centuries. Both Maca and Pascalite are high in minerals and those all important trace minerals. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 ---suggestins spiritual healking reiiki massage look into change of environ and the working of the glands could also try the violet ray visualisation on enjoyment earth energy utilising it then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self phil In , Najma Zaman <najmazaman wrote: > > Hi > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? > > Najma > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Glyconutritionals can defintely help with CFS. Email me and I will tell you how to set some. Gail greams > > " pjb12345uk " <pho > 2007/01/08 Mon PM 06:41:34 EST > > Re: CFS > > ---suggestins > > spiritual healking reiiki > > massage > look into change of environ > and the working of the glands > could also try > the violet ray > visualisation on enjoyment > earth energy utilising it > > then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self > phil > > In , Najma Zaman > <najmazaman wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > Najma > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I dont understand this!! Why are some rs so secretive in their response (Email me and I will tell you, email me privately....) This is suppose to be an open discussion type group, correct. What is so secretive that you cannot share with the others??? greams wrote: Glyconutritionals can defintely help with CFS. Email me and I will tell you how to set some. Gail greams > > " pjb12345uk " <pho > 2007/01/08 Mon PM 06:41:34 EST > > Re: CFS > > ---suggestins > > spiritual healking reiiki > > massage > look into change of environ > and the working of the glands > could also try > the violet ray > visualisation on enjoyment > earth energy utilising it > > then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self > phil > > In , Najma Zaman > <najmazaman wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > Najma > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Gail just Google or msn glyconutritionals and you will find loads of info. They are probably selling them and don't want to post it and get a bunch of flack On Behalf Of DB Tuesday, January 09, 2007 12:22 PM Re: Re: CFS I dont understand this!! Why are some rs so secretive in their response (Email me and I will tell you, email me privately....) This is suppose to be an open discussion type group, correct. What is so secretive that you cannot share with the others??? greams <greams%40bellsouth.net> wrote: Glyconutritionals can defintely help with CFS. Email me and I will tell you how to set some. Gail greams <greams%40bellsouth.net> > > " pjb12345uk " <pho <pho%40ntlworld.com> > > 2007/01/08 Mon PM 06:41:34 EST > <%40> > Re: CFS > > ---suggestins > > spiritual healking reiiki > > massage > look into change of environ > and the working of the glands > could also try > the violet ray > visualisation on enjoyment > earth energy utilising it > > then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self > phil > > In <%40> , Najma Zaman > <najmazaman wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > Najma > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I automatically think it is becaues they want to sell me something or scam me. I am sure that is not always the case but for the most part that is what I have seen. Makes it hard for the honest poeple. For my CFS the things that have done me the most good is vitamin supplimentation and immune system boosters. Daily I take: iron (because my doctor checked and I am anemic) magnesium zinc calcium B12 glucosimine/condroitin omega 3 fishoil/flaxoil I also take glutamine and vit C daily. Since doing so it has tremendously helped my autoimmune symtoms. I still have heavy cognative problems though and some pain. , DB <solema97 wrote: > > I dont understand this!! Why are some rs so secretive in their response (Email me and I will tell you, email me privately....) This is suppose to be an open discussion type group, correct. What is so secretive that you cannot share with the others??? > > greams wrote: Glyconutritionals can defintely help with CFS. Email me and I will tell you how to set some. > > Gail > greams > > > > " pjb12345uk " <pho > > 2007/01/08 Mon PM 06:41:34 EST > > > > Re: CFS > > > > ---suggestins > > > > spiritual healking reiiki > > > > massage > > look into change of environ > > and the working of the glands > > could also try > > the violet ray > > visualisation on enjoyment > > earth energy utilising it > > > > then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self > > phil > > > > In , Najma Zaman > > <najmazaman@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > > > Najma > > > > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 How much of each supplement do you take and how did you get diagnosed with this? I read somewhere that you really don't want to be diagnosed with this disease because it can hurt your employment oppotunities in the future. Brat Girl <azbratgrl wrote: I automatically think it is becaues they want to sell me something or scam me. I am sure that is not always the case but for the most part that is what I have seen. Makes it hard for the honest poeple. For my CFS the things that have done me the most good is vitamin supplimentation and immune system boosters. Daily I take: iron (because my doctor checked and I am anemic) magnesium zinc calcium B12 glucosimine/condroitin omega 3 fishoil/flaxoil I also take glutamine and vit C daily. Since doing so it has tremendously helped my autoimmune symtoms. I still have heavy cognative problems though and some pain. , DB <solema97 wrote: > > I dont understand this!! Why are some rs so secretive in their response (Email me and I will tell you, email me privately....) This is suppose to be an open discussion type group, correct. What is so secretive that you cannot share with the others??? > > greams wrote: Glyconutritionals can defintely help with CFS. Email me and I will tell you how to set some. > > Gail > greams > > > > " pjb12345uk " <pho > > 2007/01/08 Mon PM 06:41:34 EST > > > > Re: CFS > > > > ---suggestins > > > > spiritual healking reiiki > > > > massage > > look into change of environ > > and the working of the glands > > could also try > > the violet ray > > visualisation on enjoyment > > earth energy utilising it > > > > then consider what is depleting ones self by asking ones self > > phil > > > > In , Najma Zaman > > <najmazaman@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Does anyone know what things are good for sufferers of Chronic > > Fatigue Syndrome? > > > > > > Najma > > > > > > > > > Natural Hair & Skin Care Products For Men & Women > > > www.najmasnatural.co.uk > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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