Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 Erin, First off, if you soak beans for at least 24 hours before you cook them you'll significantly increase their digestibility. The fact is that our systems are just not prepared to break down all carbohydrates, especially starches. Some people just aren't meant to eat some foods for a whole host of reasons. Some people have no problems while others just can't handle certain foods except in very small quantities. Could be simply a case of not having the enzymes required for digestion of a certain food just because your ancestors never ate those and your lineage therefore hasn't got the digestive capabilities to handle this. I think this sort of thing has to be handled on a case by case basis, though. If you can figure out which foods give YOU problems then you can work towards either eliminating these foods from this diet (on the basis that they are either not meant to be eaten by you because your ancestry doesn't allow for it or you simply shouldn't be eating those foods in your climate/temperate zone) or you can try to figure out if it's possible for you to develop a tolerance for these foods. Does that help at all? Kind a round-a-bout answer with nothing concrete, but I think there isn't just one answer. There are many factors involved here. ILANA xoxo ErinJC23 wrote: In a message dated 5/31/2003 8:00:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, ilana writes: One of the problems with landfill sights, just as a sort of comparison, is that proper breakdown of the garbage can't occur because there is no air under all those layers so the bacteria which rely on oxygen can't live there and the bacteria that end up going to work are the ones that don't need oxygen to survive. And what they end up producing is gas, specifially methane, which leads to this problem with greenhouse gasses. I don't know if this is a good analogy at all because I'm really really tired, but after a good night's sleep maybe I'll be able to turn this into something that makes sense. Does it make sense? The digestion can't happen properly so the by-product is gas, but if there was proper aeration (ie - conditions for digestion) the gas doesn't get produced. The garbage in the landfill doesn't break down properly so it rots and produces gas. There you go. That makes more sense now. Ilana Thanks is fascinating - really! Thanks for explaining this. Now what about beans and such? We digest them well correct? Why does cabbage and beans and such cause gas? Thanks Erin Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2003 Report Share Posted June 1, 2003 And if you chew your food until it is completely liquid then the carbohydrates and starches are much more broken down. Digestion of all carbs and starches begins in the mouth with our saliva which contains enzymes specific for these foods. So chew until the food is liquid, which is what we should be doing anyway. This will most definitely cut down on gas and overeating. Also spares your digestive tract a lot of unnecessary work. HTH, Don Quai - Ilana herbal remedies Sunday, June 01, 2003 7:16 PM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Gas Erin,First off, if you soak beans for at least 24 hours before you cook them you'll significantly increase their digestibility. The fact is that our systems are just not prepared to break down all carbohydrates, especially starches. Some people just aren't meant to eat some foods for a whole host of reasons. Some people have no problems while others just can't handle certain foods except in very small quantities. Could be simply a case of not having the enzymes required for digestion of a certain food just because your ancestors never ate those and your lineage therefore hasn't got the digestive capabilities to handle this. I think this sort of thing has to be handled on a case by case basis, though. If you can figure out which foods give YOU problems then you can work towards either eliminating these foods from this diet (on the basis that they are either not meant to be eaten by you because your ancestry doesn't allow for it or you simply shouldn't be eating those foods in your climate/temperate zone) or you can try to figure out if it's possible for you to develop a tolerance for these foods.Does that help at all? Kind a round-a-bout answer with nothing concrete, but I think there isn't just one answer. There are many factors involved here.ILANA xoxoErinJC23 wrote: In a message dated 5/31/2003 8:00:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, ilana writes: One of the problems with landfill sights, just as a sort of comparison, is that proper breakdown of the garbage can't occur because there is no air under all those layers so the bacteria which rely on oxygen can't live there and the bacteria that end up going to work are the ones that don't need oxygen to survive. And what they end up producing is gas, specifially methane, which leads to this problem with greenhouse gasses. I don't know if this is a good analogy at all because I'm really really tired, but after a good night's sleep maybe I'll be able to turn this into something that makes sense. Does it make sense? The digestion can't happen properly so the by-product is gas, but if there was proper aeration (ie - conditions for digestion) the gas doesn't get produced. The garbage in the landfill doesn't break down properly so it rots and produces gas. There you go. That makes more sense now.IlanaThanks is fascinating - really! Thanks for explaining this. Now what about beans and such? We digest them well correct? Why does cabbage and beans and such cause gas? ThanksErin Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2003 Report Share Posted June 2, 2003 John, Well, there you go! That's a sure fire way to improve your digestive ability. You have no choice but to change your eating habits. That's a chronic problem in this society. People don't take the time to sit and be with their food and eat properly and that leads to a whole host of digestive issues! And the fact is, it really takes a concerted effort to make yourself aware of the way you are eating. Meals have to be at regular times as your digestive system is on a schedule and starts producing the digestive juices at regular times. Also, this business about only eating three meals a day and not snacking in between leads to all sorts of issues. Ideally you should be eating five to six small meals a day, always at regular times. Anyways, now that you're aware of the fact that you don't eat the way you should you can start making the effort to change that. Knowledge is certainly power in this case. You can take all the herbal remedies and make all the changes to your diet you want, but if you aren't implementing the first step of the digestive process properly then all the rest of the effort could end up amounting to very little, no exaggeration. ILANA xoxo John Ybarra wrote: --- Don Quai <mysticalherbalist wrote: > And if you chew your food until it is completely > liquid then the carbohydrates and starches are much > more broken down. Digestion of all carbs and > starches begins in the mouth with our saliva which > contains enzymes specific for these foods. So chew > until the food is liquid, which is what we should be > doing anyway. This will most definitely cut down on > gas and overeating. Also spares your digestive tract > a lot of unnecessary work. > > HTH, > > Don Quai Now that's a problem for me. I am a slave to my taste buds! I am working on retraining myself to eat more slowely, and better. But I still have the habit of "wolfing" my food. ===== John Ybarra We are free to evade the effort of thinking, to reject reason, but we are not free to avoid the penalty of the abyss we refuse to see. Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook. http://calendar. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to prescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian Shillington Doctor of Naturopathy Dr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2003 Report Share Posted June 8, 2003 Good post Ilana. For further data on this Erin, and why sprouting is soooo essential go to the files under articles: http://a4.grp.fs.com/v1/wJXjPoeacuxVg8nJxHnrHlQQV5PzMwNzbiry-AAp8WqHkxI6J0cxOlWDIPK-Mq8CWnJtVg/Articles/The%20%20Hidden%20%20Influence and read the article on "The Hidden Influence" Love, Doc Doc Shillington505-772-5889Dr.IanShillington - Ilana herbal remedies Sunday, June 01, 2003 10:16 AM Re: [herbal remedies] Re: Gas Erin,First off, if you soak beans for at least 24 hours before you cook them you'll significantly increase their digestibility. The fact is that our systems are just not prepared to break down all carbohydrates, especially starches. Some people just aren't meant to eat some foods for a whole host of reasons. Some people have no problems while others just can't handle certain foods except in very small quantities. Could be simply a case of not having the enzymes required for digestion of a certain food just because your ancestors never ate those and your lineage therefore hasn't got the digestive capabilities to handle this. I think this sort of thing has to be handled on a case by case basis, though. If you can figure out which foods give YOU problems then you can work towards either eliminating these foods from this diet (on the basis that they are either not meant to be eaten by you because your ancestry doesn't allow for it or you simply shouldn't be eating those foods in your climate/temperate zone) or you can try to figure out if it's possible for you to develop a tolerance for these foods.Does that help at all? Kind a round-a-bout answer with nothing concrete, but I think there isn't just one answer. There are many factors involved here.ILANA xoxoErinJC23 wrote: In a message dated 5/31/2003 8:00:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, ilana writes: One of the problems with landfill sights, just as a sort of comparison, is that proper breakdown of the garbage can't occur because there is no air under all those layers so the bacteria which rely on oxygen can't live there and the bacteria that end up going to work are the ones that don't need oxygen to survive. And what they end up producing is gas, specifially methane, which leads to this problem with greenhouse gasses. I don't know if this is a good analogy at all because I'm really really tired, but after a good night's sleep maybe I'll be able to turn this into something that makes sense. Does it make sense? The digestion can't happen properly so the by-product is gas, but if there was proper aeration (ie - conditions for digestion) the gas doesn't get produced. The garbage in the landfill doesn't break down properly so it rots and produces gas. There you go. That makes more sense now.IlanaThanks is fascinating - really! Thanks for explaining this. Now what about beans and such? We digest them well correct? Why does cabbage and beans and such cause gas? ThanksErin Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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