Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 You will find the same is true for herbs...also if you do your research on the web realize the issues involved. 1 The FDA is listening to what we say- disclaimers are given to protect individuals and companies more than ever- lest we be accused of diagnosing or prescribing or selling something the Dr.s and insurance companies do not profit from. 2. Herbs and essential oils (which are a natural botanical product) are considered drugs- they are composed of chemicals- albeit " natural " ..ALL herbs and oils need to be used with care and respect...but not feared. As for safety ...read this link: http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/toxicitymyths.html Take care....keep reading and learning....try doing some of it OFF the web though- lol. Elizabeth On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 09:23 AM, laura_e25 wrote: > as always one thing is opening a can of worms for me...so in trying > to do a little research on this issue of whether essential oils are > toxic for cats...i've come across lots of stuff on the toxic nature > of them for humans. i don't know maybe e.o. just isn't for > me...seems odd that one would want to use something that is > potentially harmful if put directly on your skin? reading about e.o. > has almost been like reading about meds (people even really all about > e.o.s listing the negative side effects--similar to a drug--but still > claiming they have benefits?) but i'm still trying to figure it out > b/c the idea of e.o.s really appeals to me. but ANYWAY...i came > across a lot of info about wintergreen oil being really toxic and > dangerous...by people who were really strong believers in the benefit > of most e.o. so a little scary b/c doc's deep tissue oil i'm using > contains a whole lot of wintergreen oil. just wondering what people > know about this...since i know that often there are many conflicting > opinions and i may not be getting the best info out there. > luv laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Laura, Your inquiry is great...the answers are NOT simplistic or black and white. The points on safety are argued by professional all the time. i have enormous respect for Tony- who you were quoting from Lavender Cat...and for Ron Guba...do they see eye to eye? No way! The topic of wintergreen is another big can of beans....best to START with the basics so we can have a debate that makes some sense. First what essential oils are- the basics....then we can more easily discuss the safety issues. Most Wintergreen on the market is pure garbage. Many aromatherapists DO NOT use it and will not sell it- period. I do carry it...I do give warnings...I do use it...and would NOT want to be without it..but use it with care and it is not the only oil I use for pain/repair in the joints/tissues. Not at all...but it has it's place. Keep it away from children and understand what it is. Don't ingest it. Only buy THE best quality available anywhere- do not look for a bargain- it's inexpensive anyway lol. A lot of this will make more sense if you start with the basics. There is little agreement on amy of these topics btw... That has it's benefits and drawbacks...on has to be responsible for their own learning ultimately- unless we choose to let the FDA or insurance companies dictate what is " safe " . Good luck! Elizabeth On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 09:51 AM, laura_e25 wrote: > i actually did come across that link--which is really interesting > btw. but that is really what first posed the wintergreen question > for me...it seems like there is way more w.o. in the deep tissue oil > than in the scenario used on this site--where they are giving the > example that the amount " commonly " used is way under toxic > levels...it seems like the deep tissue uses quite a bit more in > proportion to the other ingredients...but maybe i'm wrong about that? > > i guess i just have doc's words in my head that while you need to be > careful and knowledgable with herbal solutions...you really can't do > yourself harm b/c there are so many prevention mechanisms. it just > seems like maybe this isn't as much the case with essential oils? > i'm definitely not throwing in the towel with this yet! and still > plan to buy one of the books you suggested!! luv laura > > > > herbal remedies , Elizabeth@w... wrote: > > > > You will find the same is true for herbs...also if you do your > research > > on the web realize the issues involved. > > 1 The FDA is listening to what we say- disclaimers are given to > protect > > individuals and companies more than ever- lest we be accused of > > diagnosing or prescribing or selling something the Dr.s and > insurance > > companies do not profit from. > > 2. Herbs and essential oils (which are a natural botanical product) > are > > considered drugs- they are composed of chemicals- > albeit " natural " ..ALL > > herbs and oils need to be used with care and respect...but not > feared. > > > > As for safety ...read this link: > > http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/toxicitymyths.html > > > > Take care....keep reading and learning....try doing some of it OFF > the > > web though- lol. > > Elizabeth > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 09:23 AM, laura_e25 wrote: > > > > > as always one thing is opening a can of worms for me...so in > trying > > > to do a little research on this issue of whether essential oils > are > > > toxic for cats...i've come across lots of stuff on the toxic > nature > > > of them for humans. i don't know maybe e.o. just isn't for > > > me...seems odd that one would want to use something that is > > > potentially harmful if put directly on your skin? reading about > e.o. > > > has almost been like reading about meds (people even really all > about > > > e.o.s listing the negative side effects--similar to a drug--but > still > > > claiming they have benefits?) but i'm still trying to figure it > out > > > b/c the idea of e.o.s really appeals to me. but ANYWAY...i came > > > across a lot of info about wintergreen oil being really toxic and > > > dangerous...by people who were really strong believers in the > benefit > > > of most e.o. so a little scary b/c doc's deep tissue oil i'm > using > > > contains a whole lot of wintergreen oil. just wondering what > people > > > know about this...since i know that often there are many > conflicting > > > opinions and i may not be getting the best info out there. > > > luv laura > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural > remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician > and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as > long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any > person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products > from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and > members free of any liability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Laura, Did you make your own deep tissue oil? I make my own and use GOOD eos - it's been a while and I don't remember right off where I got it from but Doc and I discussed the quality/co/ etc when I got it.. Been using this batch for a while and no problems... Suzilaura_e25 <laura_e23 wrote: i actually did come across that link--which is really interesting btw. but that is really what first posed the wintergreen question for me...it seems like there is way more w.o. in the deep tissue oil than in the scenario used on this site--where they are giving the example that the amount "commonly" used is way under toxic levels...it seems like the deep tissue uses quite a bit more in proportion to the other ingredients...but maybe i'm wrong about that?i guess i just have doc's words in my head that while you need to be careful and knowledgable with herbal solutions...you really can't do yourself harm b/c there are so many prevention mechanisms. it just seems like maybe this isn't as much the case with essential oils? i'm definitely not throwing in the towel with this yet! and still plan to buy one of the books you suggested!! luv lauraherbal remedies , Elizabeth@w... wrote:> > You will find the same is true for herbs...also if you do your research > on the web realize the issues involved.> 1 The FDA is listening to what we say- disclaimers are given to protect > individuals and companies more than ever- lest we be accused of > diagnosing or prescribing or selling something the Dr.s and insurance > companies do not profit from.> 2. Herbs and essential oils (which are a natural botanical product) are > considered drugs- they are composed of chemicals- albeit "natural"..ALL > herbs and oils need to be used with care and respect...but not feared.> > As for safety ...read this link:> http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk/toxicitymyths.html> > Take care....keep reading and learning....try doing some of it OFF the > web though- lol.> Elizabeth> > > On Tuesday, September 16, 2003, at 09:23 AM, laura_e25 wrote:> > > as always one thing is opening a can of worms for me...so in trying> > to do a little research on this issue of whether essential oils are> > toxic for cats...i've come across lots of stuff on the toxic nature> > of them for humans. i don't know maybe e.o. just isn't for> > me...seems odd that one would want to use something that is> > potentially harmful if put directly on your skin? reading about e.o.> > has almost been like reading about meds (people even really all about> > e.o.s listing the negative side effects--similar to a drug--but still> > claiming they have benefits?) but i'm still trying to figure it out> > b/c the idea of e.o.s really appeals to me. but ANYWAY...i came> > across a lot of info about wintergreen oil being really toxic and> > dangerous...by people who were really strong believers in the benefit> > of most e.o. so a little scary b/c doc's deep tissue oil i'm using> > contains a whole lot of wintergreen oil. just wondering what people> > know about this...since i know that often there are many conflicting> > opinions and i may not be getting the best info out there.> > luv laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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