Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 " Zeus " <info BIRD FLU UPDATE: EVEN SCIENTISTS ARE SEEING THE HOAX Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:15:59 -0000 BIRD FLU UPDATE: EVEN SCIENTISTS ARE SEEING THE HOAX JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com NOVEMBER 14, 2005. Here is a very telling snip from a recent NY Times article about bird flu and the " dreaded " H5N1 virus. Hazards in the hunt for flu bug By Gina Kolata The New York Times WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2005 From near the end of the article... " Some experts like Peter Palese of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York said the H5N1 viruses are a false alarm. He notes that studies of serum collected in 1992 from people in rural China indicated that millions there had antibodies to the H5N1 strain. That means they had been infected with an H5N1 bird virus and recovered, apparently without incident. " Do you get what this means? First of all, going back as far as 1992, millions of Chinese people had antibodies to H5N1. That's 13 years ago, and although you might expect that hundreds of thousands of these people would have come down with an " H5N1 illness, " THEY DIDN'T. Actually, as Peter Palese points out, you WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT PEOPLE WOULD GET SICK, BECAUSE ANTIBODIES ARE A SIGN THAT PEOPLE PUT UP A SUCCESSFUL IMMUNE RESPONSE TO THE GERM AND STAYED HEALTHY. THAT'S WHAT ANTIBODIES ARE ALL ABOUT. This fact is devastating to the scare propaganda about bird flu. Devastating. To add even more fuel to the fire, as I documented in a recent article, the main type of testing for H5N1 in both animals and people around the world is TESTING FOR ANTIBODIES. This is fraud, outright fraud: INTERPRET A SIGN OF HEALTH (ANTIBODIES) AS A SIGN OF ILLNESS. I can spell out the fraud a little further. Take some virus, give it a name, and then baldly assume, without evidence, that it is very dangerous. Then, check to see if people and animals have antibodies to it. If they do, you say, " Well, you see, we have direct evidence that people have been encountering this highly dangerous virus. After all, they're making antibodies to it. That means they contacted the germ. So there is a good chance they are sick or will get sick... " Mad. Insane. Absurd. THERE WAS NO REASON TO ASSUME THAT THE GERM WAS DANGEROUS IN THE FIRST PLACE. IN FACT, THE PRESENCE OF ANTIBODIES TOLD YOU THAT. IT TOLD YOU THAT THESE PEOPLE'S IMMUNE SYSTEMS HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THE GERM AT ALL. So why have 64 people died from H5N1 in Asia? THERE IS EVERY REASON TO SUSPECT THEY DIDN'T DIE FROM H5N1. To do good science, you have to go back and check, in great detail, what was happening to these people. What other medical conditions did they have? What drugs were they taking? Redo the tests. Don't look for antibodies. Look for the H5N1 germ itself. If you can find it at all, determine how many H5N1s were in the bodies of these people---because it takes a whole lot (millions and millions and millions) of germs being very active to contribute to illness. Lately (and we see this kind of thing whenever a crazy hypothesis about a germ causing death surfaces), several scientists have offered an unsubstantiated explanation for how H5N1 is supposedly killing people: the presence of H5N1 causes " a ctyokine storm " in the lungs. Cytokines are part of immune response. They help create inflammation, which is normally an aspect of immune defense. But in the case of H5N1, the ctyokines are attacking H5N1 so powerfully (too powerfully) that the lung inflammation is enormous and closes off the airways, the breathing passages, leading to acute oxygen deficit. It sounds good, but the one small batch of experiments done so far has been IN PETRI DISHES, using lung issue taken out of the body and examined in the lab. According to one group of researchers, this lung tissue becomes severely inflamed when exposed to H5N1. Frequently, though, these in vitro results are far different from what actually happens INSIDE THE BODY. So here we have a situation where the experiments were done only one time by one group of scientists in one lab. This is vastly premature " science. " The hoax continues... JON RAPPOPORT www.nomorefakenews.com _______ Chiron pushes biotech flu shots http://www.insidebayarea.com/businessnews/onthemove/ci_3226303 __ Telegraph, U.K. Flu panic has got out of hand, says Roche http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2005/11/09/cnflu09.xml & me\ nuId=242 & sSheet=/money/2005/11/09/ixcitytop.html By Christopher Hope, Business Correspondent (Filed: 09/11/2005) _________________________ http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-11-16-china-birdflu_x.htm?csp=24 __________________________ Suicides linked to Tamiflu - so is only weapon against bird flu safe? By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor Published: 15 November 2005 European medicines regulators have ordered a safety check on Tamiflu after reports that two teenage boys died in Japan in apparent suicides after taking the anti-flu drug. The deaths have raised safety fears about the only treatment against a threatened pandemic of avian flu. The deaths are not linked and occurred a year apart. The Japanese health ministry issued a warning in June 2004 about psychological and neurological disorders linked with Tamiflu, with an instruction that doctors should be alerted - but no similar warning was issued in Europe and the UK. Tamiflu is made by the Swiss-based pharmaceutical company Roche. Yesterday, a spokesman for the European Medicines Evaluation Agency, which licenses drugs in the European Union, including the UK, said the agency had been aware of the first death but not the second. " The company [Roche] has been asked to closely follow reports of psychological disorders, delusional states and abnormal behaviour linked with the drug. At the moment there is no warning [about this] in Europe and we need to establish if there is any link. " He added that the effects of the drug had to be distinguished from the effects of the flu. " Influenza can itself cause confusion and it can be difficult to tell whether [the mental state] is the effect of the Tamiflu or of the illness. " The Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency in Japan has received reports of 64 cases of psychological disorders linked to the drug between 2000 and 2004, according to the Tokyo news agency Kyodo. The two Japanese boys were reported to have exhibited abnormal behaviour after taking the drug. In the first case, a 17-year-old high school student who was at home alone, ran out of the house and jumped over a railing into the path of a truck in February 2004 shortly after taking the medicine. In the second case, a junior high school student apparently fell from the ninth floor of his apartment building in February 2005. Chugai Pharmaceuticals, the Japanese operating company for Roche, the Swiss-based manufacturers of Tamiflu, said: " We reported these cases to the health ministry as a link between the deaths and the drug could not be ruled out. " Shinichi Watanabe, deputy director of the Japanese health ministry's safety division, said the ministry had ordered Chugai in May last year - before receiving reports on the incidents - to include in the list of side effects impaired consciousness, abnormal behaviour and hallucinations. He said the ministry had no plans to put restrictions on the use of the drug, or to issue additional warnings. " The link between the abnormal behaviour and the drug could not be ruled out, but at the same time the drug could not be singled out as the sole cause of the behaviour, " he said. In the UK, Tamiflu has been little used since its launch in 2003 and there have been only 41 " yellow card " reports of adverse reactions involving 161 separate side effects. One case was of agitation and two were of " confusional state " . Under the yellow card system, doctors record any symptoms that could be linked with a drug. A spokeswoman for Roche said: " We shared the information [about the Japanese deaths] with drug regulatory authorities around the world and they did not think it warranted any change in the product information. " ___________________________ Childhood Deaths in Japan Bring New Look at Flu Drug http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/18/health/18tamiflu.html The NY Times November 18, 2005 AVIAN FLU: THE PANDEMIC THAT WILL NEVER BE - Tim O'Shea http://thedoctorwithin.com/index_fr.php?page=articles/avian.php ________________________________ The Age of Autism: Flu shot flashpoint Thimerosal in Flu Vaccines http://tinyurl.com/9b4yw _________________________________ Flu shot for kids makes some parents anxious http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051110/LIVING/5\ 11100333/1032 Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, NY November 10, 2005 Secrecy worries are raised over plan Burr's antiterrorism agency would have disclosure exemption By Mary M. Shaffrey JOURNAL WASHINGTON BUREAU http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_Basic\ Article & c=MGArticle & cid=1128768159466 & path=!localnews & s=1037645509099 ___ New Mexico Board of Pharmacy to Hear Petition to Limit Exposure to Aspartame and Thimerosal http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/11/prweb308566.htm PR Web (press release), WA November 10, 2005 _ Nurses 'not taking flu vaccine' http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4260138.stm ____ U.S. lawmakers reject emergency bird flu funds http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N17702754.htm Source: Reuters 17 Nov 2005 21:35:22 GMT New Concerns About Tamiflu http://www.redflagsdaily.com/tenpenny/2005_nov18.php An anti-disease agency without public oversight http://www.sacbee.com/content/opinion/story/13839838p-14679963c.html Sacramento Bee November 11, 2005 By Mark Tapscott _____ Please view Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's wonderful new website at: http://www.birdfluhype.com/ forwarded by Zeus Information Service Alternative Views on Health www.zeusinfoservice.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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