Guest guest Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Sure, like "I'm from the government and I am here to help you"! It's now, "I went to medical school and I'm here to destroy your immune system with drugs or surgery!" or "What naturalpathic quack did you go to?" Health and Healing has absolutely NOTHING to do with DOCTORS. Do they teach nutrician in medical schools YET!? Health and Healing has everything to do with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, which sadly has been dumbed down by this society, schools and government. Not that doctors don't have a place, but most of the time they do not help. One would be better off eating an apple a day. No offense intended. I just get upset about doctors generally. I know there are good ones. But the pamphlets are misinformation propaganda for the corporate drug industry."Dr.Sibia" <drsibia wrote: I as a doctor say - the more you know about the disease the longer you will live. Hence it is essential for everyone to know about the disease, its natural course of progress, the various treatment options and their merits and demerits. In fact we provide literature to patients on any topic they desire. If any group member desires info on any medical problem please write in this forum and we will post it on the forum if available with us. Dr.Sibia - "psych doc" <psych_58 Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:31 PM Re: Doctors : Arrogant, rude, highhanded and dismissive - NY Times Report. > Precisely this is why we should all retain and fight > to retain the right to "Self Medicate". It is not self > prescription. Let us not touch the prescription > medicines. But we should oppose the attempts of some > drug companies and medical associations to convert > some vitamins and aminos etc in their high dose into > "Prescription Medicines". Such totally harmless and > beneficial things should be available to common people > without prescription and over the counter in > supermarkets at whatever dose the educated people > choose. > We the educated informed people will not harm > ourselves after all. > The World Industry for Self Medication in France is in > our favor. > Ratan. > > --- Jagannath Chatterjee <jagchat01 wrote: > >> >> >> >> November 30, 2005 >> Being a Patient >> >> When the Doctor Is in, but You Wish He Wasn't By >> GINA KOLATA >> Joanne Wong's doctor correctly figured out what >> was wrong with her. But he would not tell her. >> Ms. Wong, a software engineer in Sunnyvale, >> Calif., was having abdominal pain and nausea. Her >> doctor told her to have a blood test, then ushered >> her out of his office, ignoring her when she asked >> what the test was for. >> "The test came back, and he said I have a virus," >> Ms. Wong said. "He said, 'Take this medicine for two >> weeks.' I asked, 'What kind of virus do I have? How >> did I get it?' But he just said, 'Take the medicine >> and come back in two weeks.' " >> Two weeks later, she still felt ill. "He said, >> 'You're fine, you're fine,' " Ms. Wong said. "I >> said, 'At least tell me the name of the virus.' " >> But, she said, "He just patted my shoulder and sent >> me out," telling her to return in three months for >> another blood test. >> Perhaps, Ms. Wong said, the doctor did not want to >> spend the time to talk to her, or perhaps he was put >> off by her Chinese accent and thought she would not >> understand. In any event, she never returned to that >> doctor. When she got her medical records, she >> learned that she had had hepatitis A, a viral liver >> infection. >> Ms. Wong had come across a bane of the medical >> profession: the difficult doctor. These doctors may >> be arrogant or rude, highhanded or dismissive. 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Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Don't feel hurt Dr Sibia, this was in general and not targetted at you. Most of us here are sore that we have not cultivated a choice as per as medicine is concerned. Most of us also realise, through our own bitter experience as patients, that modern medicine not only does not heal but damages and is also extremely painful. We are trying to raise our voice so that the next generation is better off. Regards, Jagannath. , Joseph Toman <joseph_toman> wrote: > > Sure, like " I'm from the government and I am here to help you " ! It's now, " I went to medical school and I'm here to destroy your immune system with drugs or surgery! " or " What naturalpathic quack did you go to? " > > Health and Healing has absolutely NOTHING to do with DOCTORS. Do they teach nutrician in medical schools YET!? Health and Healing has everything to do with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, which sadly has been dumbed down by this society, schools and government. > > Not that doctors don't have a place, but most of the time they do not help. One would be better off eating an apple a day. No offense intended. I just get upset about doctors generally. I know there are good ones. But the pamphlets are misinformation propaganda for the corporate drug industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Dear Jagannath, I am not at all hurt. In fact I believe that patients should be provided with all options of treatment. They should be provided with knowledge of their disease and all its treatment options along with the merits AND demerits of each treatment. Doctors (including me) should not be authoritarian but take into consideration all the views of the patients. Dr.Sibia - " jagchat01 " <jagchat01 Thursday, December 01, 2005 4:23 PM Re: Doctors : Arrogant... Don't feel hurt Dr Sibia, this was in general and not targetted at you. Most of us here are sore that we have not cultivated a choice as per as medicine is concerned. Most of us also realise, through our own bitter experience as patients, that modern medicine not only does not heal but damages and is also extremely painful. We are trying to raise our voice so that the next generation is better off. Regards, Jagannath. , Joseph Toman <joseph_toman> wrote: > > Sure, like " I'm from the government and I am here to help you " ! It's now, " I went to medical school and I'm here to destroy your immune system with drugs or surgery! " or " What naturalpathic quack did you go to? " > > Health and Healing has absolutely NOTHING to do with DOCTORS. Do they teach nutrician in medical schools YET!? Health and Healing has everything to do with PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, which sadly has been dumbed down by this society, schools and government. > > Not that doctors don't have a place, but most of the time they do not help. One would be better off eating an apple a day. No offense intended. I just get upset about doctors generally. I know there are good ones. But the pamphlets are misinformation propaganda for the corporate drug industry. «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» § - PULSE ON WORLD HEALTH CONSPIRACIES! § Subscribe:......... - «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- Post message: MedicalConspiracies List owner: MedicalConspiracies-owner «¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤»§«¤»¥«¤» New Sister Group: MedicalConspiracies (One Word)at Google groups: http://groups.google.comMedicalConspiracies Post message: MedicalConspiracies (AT) googl (DOT) com Subscribe: MedicalConspiracies- (AT) googl (DOT) com Any information here in is for educational purpose only, it may be news related, purely speculation or someone's opinion. Always consult with a qualified health practitioner before deciding on any course of treatment, especially for serious or life-threatening illnesses. **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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