Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Elliot, There are a few studies that show that the people from Mexico and other areas are fairly healthy when living on a more tradional native diet including few dental problems ( usually with very minimal or any allopathic care ), but after moving to the US and adapting to the processed industrial foods that the health problems soar. Most then turn to allopathic care and they become as unwell as the rest of the population within one generation. And of course as the large multinationals contol more and more of the food in other countries the general populations there will develope the same health problems that we have in the USA. I see the problem along more economic lines than I do race or ethnicity. A lot of health is dependent on the quality of the food supply. Therefor the ones on the lower economic rungs usually fare worse because they have less money to spend on food and tend to eat what is more economical, which is usually less health producing. The powers that be think that the nutrition of the " lower economic classes " or as the say in latin america the " clase popular " isn't a priority for government interest. Corporate bottom lines are more in line with policy. An example that I will always remember is the bread that was put on the market here and promoted as a " health food with high fiber " . It was high fiber alright but only appropriate for a termite as the fiber was wood sawdust. The majority of the products in the supermarkets today have beautiful packaging, powerful advertising, and they may taste, smell and look like real food, but are usually composed of food parts not whole foods. Those food parts might be byproducts from some other industry, but they are usually cheap ingredients. Usually cheap for a reason too. Native diets developed over time through trial and error by what worked with what was available. Tradionally the lower classes ate cheaper foods but they had some good nutrional quality when used in food combining, but if the paradigm shifts to price rather than sustainable nutrition as the deciding factor with what goes on the market then health and nutrition are no longer much of an influence, but pricing, smell, taste, packaging, advertising, etc. are. As these mutinationals control more and more of the food supply in other countries, the people are changing from more simple but healthy native diets to the more industrialized, processed, cheap, quick, and of poor nutritional quality they will suffer the same maladies as the USA. In the USA, to become educated about health and diet is very hard to do in the face of all of the misinformation put out by science, industry and government to promote their version of " corporate truth " for all and especially so if English is not your native language. regards, Frank Frank, Frank, speaking of a soaring diabetes rate, there has been a great influx of Mexicans into the midwest area where I live---Illinois and Indiana---and almost without exception, the Mexican families I see look malnourished---not scrawny malnourished, but fat malnourished--- all of them obese even down to the little children. They must be buying and eating the most terrible stuff. Far too many of them look like prime targets for diabetes, heart dis-ease, cancer and other degenerative dis-eases! I wish there was some way to EDUCATE them as to how to eat and live healthfully. The only way I can think of would be on TV, either Hispanic or English, but OF COURSE TV air time is much too valuable $$$ to " waste " it on educating the populace about getting and staying healthy. Our Mexican brothers and sisters are headed for disaster, and this country along with them due to a crushing burden from health costs. I must add that it is not at all just Mexicans who need to be educated about right food and drink choices. I only have to walk into a WalMart and observe the shoppers to know that. Elliot , Frank <califpacific> wrote: > > > From Mr Phillip Day- Diabetes to double over next thirty years > Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:25 +0100 > > > > > > Diabetes Rates Will Double Over 30 Years > > by Sarah Womack > > > > Diabetes rates will double worldwide by 2030 even if the obesity rate remains stable, an international team of researchers said yesterday. > > > > The rate will go up even higher if, as is expected, more people eat a so-called western diet and stop exercising. > > > > " The number of people with diabetes is projected to rise from 171 million in 2000 to 366 million in 2030, " the researchers write in the latest issue of Diabetes Care. > > > > Diabetes is one of the leading causes of premature death in the UK and is closely linked to heart disease. Both are strongly associated with a poor diet and lack of exercise. > > > > " The human and economic costs of this epidemic are enormous, " said Sarah Wild of Edinburgh University who, with colleagues in Australia, Denmark and Switzerland, used United Nations data to project future diabetes rates. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Frank, I guess you got too busy or something, as this post has my name on it but it is your post. No problem. The terrible thing is that Big Business, Big Medicine and all the Powers That Be in this country, are not interested in looking very far down the road. It is all about profits. So WHAT if Mexican immigrants to this country are headed toward sickening and dying en masse from diabetes, heart dis-ease and cancer? Profits for doctors, hospitals, drug companies and insurance companies are great, and getting better! The future? Who cares! Elliot , " breathedeepnow " <aug20@m...> wrote: > Elliot, > > There are a few studies that show that the people from Mexico and other areas are fairly healthy when living on a more tradional native diet including few dental problems ( usually with very minimal or any allopathic care ), but after moving to the US and adapting to the processed industrial foods that the health problems soar. Most then turn to allopathic care and they become as unwell as the rest of the population within one generation. And of course as the large multinationals contol more and more of the food in other countries the general populations there will develope the same health problems that we have in the USA. > > > I see the problem along more economic lines than I do race or ethnicity. A lot of health is dependent on the quality of the food supply. Therefor the ones on the lower economic rungs usually fare worse because they have less money to spend on food and tend to eat what is more economical, which is usually less health producing. > > The powers that be think that the nutrition of the " lower economic classes " or as the say in latin america the " clase popular " isn't a priority for government interest. Corporate bottom lines are more in line with policy. An example that I will always remember is the bread that was put on the market here and promoted as a " health food with high fiber " . It was high fiber alright but only appropriate for a termite as the fiber was wood sawdust. The majority of the products in the supermarkets today have beautiful packaging, powerful advertising, and they may taste, smell and look like real food, but are usually composed of food parts not whole foods. Those food parts might be byproducts from some other industry, but they are usually cheap ingredients. Usually cheap for a reason too. Native diets developed over time through trial and error by what worked with what was available. Tradionally the lower classes ate cheaper foods but they had some good nutrional quality when used in food combining, but if the paradigm shifts to price rather than sustainable nutrition as the deciding factor with what goes on the market then health and nutrition are no longer much of an influence, but pricing, smell, taste, packaging, advertising, etc. are. > > As these mutinationals control more and more of the food supply in other countries, the people are changing from more simple but healthy native diets to the more industrialized, processed, cheap, quick, and of poor nutritional quality they will suffer the same maladies as the USA. > > In the USA, to become educated about health and diet is very hard to do in the face of all of the misinformation put out by science, industry and government to promote their version of " corporate truth " for all and especially so if English is not your native language. > > regards, > > Frank > > > > > > Frank, > > Frank, speaking of a soaring diabetes rate, there has been a great > influx of Mexicans into the midwest area where I live---Illinois and > Indiana---and almost without exception, the Mexican families I see > look malnourished---not scrawny malnourished, but fat malnourished-- - > all of them obese even down to the little children. They must be > buying and eating the most terrible stuff. Far too many of them look > like prime targets for diabetes, heart dis-ease, cancer and other > degenerative dis-eases! I wish there was some way to EDUCATE them as > to how to eat and live healthfully. The only way I can think of would > be on TV, either Hispanic or English, but OF COURSE TV air time is > much too valuable $$$ to " waste " it on educating the populace about > getting and staying healthy. > > Our Mexican brothers and sisters are headed for disaster, and this > country along with them due to a crushing burden from health costs. > > I must add that it is not at all just Mexicans who need to be > educated about right food and drink choices. I only have to walk into > a WalMart and observe the shoppers to know that. > > Elliot > > , Frank > <califpacific> wrote: > > > > > > From Mr Phillip Day- Diabetes to double over next thirty > years > > Wed, 12 May 2004 10:12:25 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > Diabetes Rates Will Double Over 30 Years > > > > by Sarah Womack > > > > > > > > Diabetes rates will double worldwide by 2030 even if the obesity > rate remains stable, an international team of researchers said > yesterday. > > > > > > > > The rate will go up even higher if, as is expected, more people eat > a so-called western diet and stop exercising. > > > > > > > > " The number of people with diabetes is projected to rise from 171 > million in 2000 to 366 million in 2030, " the researchers write in the > latest issue of Diabetes Care. > > > > > > > > Diabetes is one of the leading causes of premature death in the UK > and is closely linked to heart disease. Both are strongly associated > with a poor diet and lack of exercise. > > > > > > > > " The human and economic costs of this epidemic are enormous, " said > Sarah Wild of Edinburgh University who, with colleagues in Australia, > Denmark and Switzerland, used United Nations data to project future > diabetes rates. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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