Guest guest Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 Since I wrote this earlier today I recieved another e-mail indicating that some of the contaminated vaccine had already been shipped to the U.S. Therefore, if there are problems with the conatminated vaccines, they wil of course blame it on not having enough when they look at the stastics. Quite frankly, I've been so away from even the idea of polluting my body with a vaccine that I am so surprised to see people lining up like they're about to get on a cattle car anxious to get their vaccination. IT's really just so hard to imagine that people still trust the government to protect them from contaminated vaccines or provide vaccines that actually help your health if they aren't contaminated when in just the last month there has been news about hormone replacement therapy, antidepressants and Viox causing death. I remember feeling sick as a child getting those vaccines but I haven't even considered taking them since my early 20's when a man from CDC came to Davenport, Iowa at Palmer College taking about the LEgionaiires Disease from that vaccination where so many elderly died. My daughter was never vaccinated and had almost no medical bills. Shall I continue to confess my dropping out of the politically correct iatrogenic health care world? I decided not to get mammograms before the research came out about them causing cancer after I watched my Mother go religiously annually to get them and got breast cacner 8 months after a carcinogenic pharmaceutal drug was prescribed to her. I never considered hormone replacement therapy before it came out into the news that it was so unsafe that they stopped the clinical trials. I wouldn't consided taking a prescription drug when I have joint pain because I know it's my congested liver and I go on a fast and it clears up. Will I live any longer or shorter being a medical drop out (that I am not suggesting for anyone else?)? That remains to be seen. I know that my quality of life will be greater just not having ot deal with them as I tolerated while watching their incompetence medicate my Mother' into the grave with no quality of life the last few years of her life with the best modern medicine could buy creating heart disease, cancer, diabetes and " Depression " . AFter I listened to enough of them try to sound liek they knew what they were talking about that might work with someone with no education to throw out a few intimidaing latin words that they don't bother to explain and then don't want to be held accountable to explain the results of their " health care " when I'm not trained in drugs or surgery but I knew enought of the medical terminology to knwo I was listening to a bull-_________ that didn't knwo what they were talking about. IF anyone out there actually knows an M.D. that can actually provide intelligent explainations about the care they are providing, I like to know about them. The head oncologist at Emory couldn't even tell me if the spots on Mother's lung were cancer and couldn't get the films sent from Huntsville. I took her to Emory to get cancer testst that no one bothered to even read for weeks until I insisted that I be told the results. They required her to sign a release admittting she'd been told tghe proceedure could kill or diaable her but woudlnt' even let her have a coyp of the form she'd signed. The 3rd psychiatric hospital that she ended up in after the incompetence and drugs from the 2nd had Dr. NOga that threatened not to let me see her because I was " too involved in her care " because Iwanted her to be abel to go outside and take a walk in the fresh air bedcause she'd had a heart attack adn the onlyh contaca they had with the ouside was a postage stamped side " garden " that was used for teh smokers. HE was mad because I was interferring with his plans to charge Medicare/BC/BS $900/day for 6-9 week frying her brain with electroconvulsive shock therapy. If I have an injury that needs to be snown up or a broken bone I'll get it set. But when the head oncologist at Emory couldn't tell me the cancer had spread to her lungs and I didn't know until the autopy report came back from the medical examiner ruling me out as her murderess because there was still moisture inside the plastic bags indicating she was alive when she put them over her head and her tongue and larynx that taught me to speak was removed to rule out strangulation was sent to the GBI instead of being burried with her aftter she'd been to 7 health care professional at Emory just a week before an no one identified her as a suicide risk, I just don't have any scientific evidence to support any believe that my heatlh would be any better off with their care. I share these details on this line so that each of you can better understand the cold, hard reality of some of what you are hearing in the news when you hear that the suicide rate is 200-300times hgher in children prescribed antidepressants AND THEY KNEW IT AND LEFT IT ON THE MARKET. At least my Mother had 75 years as the greatest Mother in the world and courageously ended the suffering of the way those drugs turne dherinto a dysfunctional zombie before the cancer ate her up with a slow, agnonizing suffocation in her lungs that the Emory ONcologist couldnt' even diagnose that she'd already witnessed in several other family members who'd already had the best medical care money could buy. I apologize if these accurate accounts of the reality of American " heatlh Care " are uncomfortable. They are intended to teach the listener of the impertative necessity of making wise health care choices on a daily basis because once you're sick and into that allopathic system, the goal isn't to get you well and out fo the system. It't to keep you there and drain as many of your assets as possible before you're too tired to be a taxpayer anymore. I don't think individual M.D.'s mean to be the way they are. They are taught by the institutions that train them that are heavily funded by the pharmaceutical companies from a young age. And as long as the American public continues to quietly listen to the nightly news on their dumbed down antidepressants about drugs killing our children with antidepressants, women with hormone replacement therapy and primarily the elderly with arthritis with Viox and we're not rioting in the streets in total disgust as mad as we are about 9/11 murdering Americans and we still listen to M.D.'s like the one this morning from Emory tell eveyone they should now just take baby aspirin in reference to Vioxx with no scientific data to back up his recommendation, Congress is going to know they can still keep getting those campaign contributions from the drug manufacturers that they continue to put genocidal medications into the food chain, we can continue to expect the same. When Kerry compationately mentions " health care for everyone " without mentioning " national health Care' just what do you think it's going ot be like when the baby boomers are eligible for Medicare, the illegal immigrants that come to America to have Medicaide pay for the birth of their babies that don't start contributing to Sociat Security from their early 20's like the rest of us and the HIV positives are into the full blown AIDS after the 15-20 year gestation period and we have to have another mandatory Federal tax to pay for the government to regulate all the health care and decide even more than managed care who gets to live and die.....just what do you think it's going to be like then? I plan to fake them out and take such good care of my health that they won't be making any money sending drugs through me to my Depends in the Nursing home. Groups like this will help those of us who want to beat a system that is not " health care " but " disease care " that obviouslly doesn't want to keep us healthy because then we wouldn't need as many of those prescription drugs that Congress has approved for the geriatic population when we already have a National Debt up to our ears. --- Original Message ----- " Michael " <mwood Sunday, October 10, 2004 8:03 PM RE: Vaccine " Shortages " I am also interested in this, and anticipate the later television news that " weather conditions produced a less favourable climate for influenza type organisms to develop, and doctors are now breathing a sigh of relief predicting a mild flu season this year, despite earlier scares... " It might be noted that the indirect consequence of the " shortage " was a dramatically increased cost- ie large profits per unit with less production for the pharmaceutical corporation. And, same personal health story or close to it, It really amazes me that I can be, at least up to now, so healthy at my age despite being " unprotected against the ravages of illness and disease " that seem to incapacitate almost everyone I know who receives antibiotics or other pharmaceuticals regularly...it appears to me that the people I know who go to physicians regularly or often, experience more health problems than people I know who avoid them altogether; and I have secretly wondered if maybe these medicines and surgical procedures aren't effective means of promoting health. What I am sure of is that I seem to heal a lot better and stay apparently healthy without the benefit of doctors or pharmaceutical/surgical/etc procedures. I was stunned to be part of a conversation the other day. Someone asked me when my last surgery had been, and I answered " oh about 35 years ago. " They looked at me with disbelief as if I were lying and just didn't want to tell them. I then listened as each told of a trail of surgical procedures every few years or so. I thought " my God, how can I possibly be so healthy despite my lack of surgeries or procedures or other interaction with modern medicine for years? " (What I have heard from physicians is scary- that many of the illnesses that are being proliferated such as MRSA are the result of overuse of antibiotics. It slays me that these same physicians then treat the condition with more antibiotics...) Live healthy. Michael DrLance [DrLance] Saturday, October 09, 2004 6:46 AM ; DrLance Vaccine " Shortages " The 2004 Flu Vaccine " Shortage " created by the British vaccine manufacturer realizing that the contamination was so great that the assured costs from lawsuits resulting from future deaths would outweight profits that has halved the number of available vaccines in America presents an exciting and unpredented opportunity for a national wide scientific study. By spring the number of deaths and incidences of flu in America should be available. Will they be lower or higher with the half the flu vaccines available? With recent new reports of (accidental or intentional) genocide resulting from antidepressants, Vioxx and hormone replacement therapy, I'm feeling better than ever about having taken no pharmaceutical drugs since 1975 when I flushed down about a quart of pills into the toilet cerimoniously before hopping into my trusted Valient pulling the U-Haul with all my earthly possessions to depart for Palmer College of Chiropractic other than some antibiotics this year for a tooth infection. Ironically, with so many deaths and disabilities from misprescribed and/or misused drugs in America, the dentist made a mistake and ordered a drug for a viral infection that I caught and didn't take by mistake and the antibiotics didn't result in arresting the infection or saving the tooth. I quietly saved myself from the side effects of hormone replacement therapy and somehow survived menopause like woman have been doing for several thousands of years without endangering myself to cancer. I'm really looking forward to knowing if the news media will report in the Spring if there is or is not an increased incidence of flu and deaths from flu this year. IF there isn't, America not having 1/2 it's intended flu vaccine may be one of the best things that could have happened to improve the health of Americans in years. Having decided not to vaccinate my daughter who was born at home on my living room floor without drugs and somehow survived and I've not been vaccinated as an adult for anything, I look forward to earning the drug manufacturers as little as possible for the rest of my life. Dr. Sandra Lance, D.C. Highway2Health.net Thursday Nights - " califpacific " <califpacific Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:11 AM Medicine and the market: the Vioxx and flu vaccine debacles Medicine and the market: the Vioxx and flu vaccine debacles By Patrick Martin 8 October 2004 http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/oct2004/viox-o08.shtml Two events of the past week have further exposed the official lie-endlessly propounded by the corporate media and the politicians of the Democratic and Republican parties- that " the market " can provide a rational and effective solution to the deepening crisis of health care in the United States. Last Thursday, September 30, the huge drug company Merck, long one of the most profitable U.S. corporations, announced it was recalling its arthritis drug Vioxx, used by more than two million people worldwide. Merck took the action after a study confirmed what has long been suspected by cardiologists: the drug is associated with a sharply increased risk of heart attack and stroke. Five days later, on October 5, Chiron Corp. announced that its entire production run of flu vaccine had to be scrapped because of contamination problems, cutting the U.S. supply of vaccine in half only days before the start of the flu season. Federal health officials immediately issued guidelines for cutting back the scope of vaccination campaigns, suggesting a focus on selected high-risk groups, including infants between 6 and 23 months, the elderly, and those suffering from asthma and other respiratory problems. What connects these two events, which threaten the health of millions of people? Both are byproducts of the subordination of the health care system to the profit motive. In the case of Vioxx, it is questionable whether the drug should ever have been released to the public. The class of drugs of which it is part, called COX-2 inhibitors, have little demonstrated medical superiority over such proven over-the-counter pain relievers as aspirin and acetaminophen, though they cost 100 times more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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