Law, Medicine, Practicing without a license Question Off Topic but important

[Guest guest]

Dear nieema0,

 

I don't know who nieema0 is or why anyone would be giving medical

advice about how to turn a breech baby over the internet, but I would

caution anyone about responding off line to anyone soliciting information

that might be considered practicing medicine without a license-especially

when it involves the life of a fetus.

 

If the family wants to experiment around with trying to move a breech baby

without the advise of the OB-GYN, there should be references on the internet

with a word search or perhaps in a health food store or a library.

 

I've never experimented around with this issue but I would be highly

concerned that trying to move a breech baby might result in the cord getting

caught around the baby's neck that could result in death, brain injury

and/or cerebral palsy.

 

The information procured under those circumstances would have been procured

by the family in a publication that was not specifically offered in

reference to a specific case that might have adverse complications as a

result of implementing the off -line intenet medical advice.

 

I am sure that nieema means well but if an operative was to be on

this list attempting to have a negative impact on alternative health, asking

for someone to give medical advise that is not licensed to practice medicine

off line would be good way to do it.

 

That said:

You might want to search the following for an answer to your question. I

have no idea if the issue is addressed there.

www.alternativemedicine.com

www.garynull.com

 

Thank you,

Dr. Sandra Lance, D.C.

 

 

 

 

---- Original Message -----

" nieema " <nieema0

 

Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:58 AM

Question Off Topic but important

 

 

>

>

> Greetings All

>

> On another group A woman asked if anyone knew any information on how to

> help a baby that is breech turn.

>

> She is in week 36 and is due Feb. 25th.

>

> She asked for any suggestions...

>

> If you do have any please email me privately.

>

> nieema0

>

> I thank you in advance

>

> good health and the way to maintain it

>

> nieema

 

[Guest guest]

DrLance wrote:

 

>

> Dear nieema0,

>

>

> I've never experimented around with this issue but I would be highly

> concerned that trying to move a breech baby might result in the cord

> getting

> caught around the baby's neck that could result in death, brain injury

> and/or cerebral palsy.

>

This comment reminded me of some friends of ours who were pregnant with

their last (4th) child a year before we were pregnant with our first.

As their child was being born,it presented with the cord around the

neck, the doctor used forceps and this resulted in brain damage and a

week later -death.

We decided for a number of reasons to do what most of the world's

population does -give birth at home! with a very gentle and vastly

experienced doctor in attendance- along with his " birth helpers " .

I asked " what would he do if the same thing happened to our baby -re the

cord " the birth helper told me - the doctor usually can gently loop it

over the head, and if it is too tight and life threatening, he would not

use forceps on the babies head but rather

he would just clamp and cut the cord early.This made sense to me and i

felt sorry for our friends who possibly lost their baby due to the

incompetancy of a doctor who should have known better.

The lesson again learnt for me - don't be threatened by the bullies in

our society who try to play the prince over us and threaten us with

legal action just because we are intelligent people (without medical

degrees)who want to gather information in order to exercise our God

given right to make an informed choice when it comes to our health and

the health of our children.

I've seen and heard so much of this over the years- and now it seems

,with CODEX looming, again the social nannies are again wanting to

control what goes into my mouth! As well as what comes out of it.

Don't bully ,rather -educate, share discuss ,by all means -but don't bully.

 

kim

[Guest guest]

Dear Dr. Lance,

With all due respect, I don't think anyone was

suggesting delivering their own baby. It seems to me

fine to ask if anyone has any references on the

subject. After all, how else would you ever know?

 

This is your second reference to cautioning a person

from inquiring about a problem (earlier eczema) and I

am concerned that it will make people feel shamed for

seeking knowledge.

 

Providing leads on information is not practicing

medicine without a license. I have read about turning

breech babies around in childbirth books. It used to

be that skilled doctors and midwives could often

encourage a baby to turn.

 

Sometimes the baby will naturally turn before birth.

 

A place in Tennessee called The Farm are famous for

their midwives.

" People come from all over the world to receive the

home birth services provided by The Farm Midwifery

Center. Most are from middle Tennessee or northern

Alabama, visiting monthly, then weekly for prenatal

care, then traveling to the Midwifery Center once

labor has begun. Those from further away make plans

for an extended stay in one of several available

cabins and birthing rooms. "

For more information, contact:

 

Deborah Flowers, RN, CPM

The Farm Midwifery Center

931-964-2103

Box 47 The Farm

Summertown, TN 38483

 

e-mail: debrncpm

 

Our Clinic

Our clinic is open Monday, Wednesday and Friday

afternoons, however Wednesday is the day we set aside

specifically for prenatal clinic. If Wednesday is not

convenient we can make other arrangements to see you.

We also do home visits for people in Southern Middle

Tennessee.

The Farm Midwives

Ina May Gaskin, CPM 931-964-2519

Deborah Flowers, RN, CPM 931-964-2103

Pamela Hunt, CPM 931-964-2472

Carol Nelson, CPM 931-964-2589

Joanne Santanna, RN, CPM 931-379-0440

Sharon Wells, CPM 931-964-3996

 

Their book Spiritual Midwifery is one of the best

books on the subject of childbirth. I remember it

discusses breech babies.

You might look for it at the library or buy it.

 

Spiritual Midwifery

by Ina May Gaskin

$19.95 480 pgs.

A timeless classic with sales over half a million,

this classic book is now helping mothers of a new

generation find empowerment in birth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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