Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 [edited/excerpted from http://discovery-experimental.com/neurological_diseases/how_ldc_was_developed.ht\ m ] [editor's note - the fillers used to make Vitamin C tablets are often the cause of loose bowels, sometimes at doses as low as 500mg. Switch to straight powder without the fillers and you'll find you can take thousands of milligrams!] .... For any lay person to fully understand how dietary supplements and drugs are developed and come into being, they first must understand that a dietary supplement, or a vitamin such as Vitamin C, is not the same Vitamin C produced by different companies. The same chemical product produced by 2 different companies are almost never the same chemical, unless one company gave their exact manufacturing method (trade secrets to their competition) which almost never happens. Six different companies producing the same chemical will in essence, produce six different chemicals. The United States Government allows each product to have the same chemical name when they are closely related. The US Government never fully explained the differences in chemical products with the same name to the public. Vitamin C is in grapefruit and many other fruits. When it was discovered that Vitamin C had the potential to be a wonder drug or vitamin, researchers set out to find and separate the Vitamin C out of food. Once scientists found what the active chemical was that made up this substance called Vitamin C, the researchers wanted to make this wonder-drug using other chemicals instead of the very costly process of extracting Vitamin C from food. In other words have a " man-made " synthetic version of Vitamin C. Scientists found the active ingredient within Vitamin C was Ascorbic Acid. They also found that the chemical ascorbic acid has 2 different sides. Something like a battery. A battery has a plus and a minus side. Ascorbic acid has a Levo (L) side, which would be the minus side of a battery and a Dextro (D) side, which would be a plus side of a battery. In other words (L) in chemistry means Levo or minus and (D) in chemistry means Dextro or plus. Once scientists found that ascorbic acid or Vitamin C had a plus and minus side; they needed to find out what side of ascorbic acid would benefit people's health. Scientists discovered that it was the L or minus side of ascorbic acid that would benefit mankind, health-wise and that the D side or + side was a totally different product and didn't appear to benefit anyone. However, each side of ascorbic acid or combination of both sides of ascorbic acid is allowed to be called ascorbic acid or Vitamin C, even though the Lascorbic acid and D ascorbic acid are opposite and different and would have a totally different effects upon a person. Also the purity of ascorbic acid makes a big difference in how effective ascorbic acid is; or any other medicinal product. Also, the purity of any medicinal product, in actuality, changes the structure of the chemical and makes the product a different product, even though the FDA allows the chemicals to have the same name, though they are totally different; having different effects upon people. Once scientists learned how to " man-make " so to speak, ascorbic acid or Vitamin C, they now needed to separate the L side, which was the active side, from the D side which appeared to have no benefit at all. Vitamin C was now man-made and no longer needed to be extracted from grapefruit and other food products. Now the challenge was, just how pure was the industry going to make the L-Ascorbic Acid for human consumption. The answer from the industry was purely money. It's more expensive to produce a pure product than a not so pure product. Most every chemical company that produced Vitamin C or L Ascorbic Acid produced it at a purity of between 87 - 95% pure. They then sold it to vitamin companies to add ingredients called pill fillers, to make pills and sell it to the public as Vitamin C. Only one company that Kimball is aware of in the world produces L Ascorbic Acid at 99% purity, or above. The companies that tablet Vitamin C do not use the higher purity Vitamin C, because it costs a little more to purchase. However, in tests, the higher purity Vitamin C at 99% was 15 to 20 timesmore effective than all the other vitamin C products being produced. The cost however was only 4 times more for the higher priced Vitamin C product. It would actually be cheaper for the public to purchase the purer Vitamin C, simply because they would be taking 15-20 times less, while receiving better benefits from the purer product. For your information the only company in the world that Kimball knows producing L-Ascorbic Acid or Vitamin C at 99% purity and above is B.A.S.F. in Germany. There is only one company Kimball knows of that actually purchases B.A.S.F.'s L-Ascorbic Acid at +99% purity; re-crystallizes the L-Ascorbic Acid to gain even a higher purity level; places the extreme high purity L-Ascorbic Acid in a capsule without any fillers and sells the Vitamin C to the public and doctors. Kimball cannot disclose the name of the company doing this; simply because, the US Government would construe the Vitamin C being sold currently as a drug. This due to the content on this website stating how effective properly made L-Ascorbic Acid or Vitamin C is, in treating and preventing heart disease and cancer. You may review the effectiveness in the use of high potency Vitamin C under Cancer - Is There A Cure? and also FDA - Death By Deprivation where it talks about the fact, high potency Vitamin C is extremely effective in treating and preventing heart disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 but isn't it simpler to just use the natural vitamin c that IS extracted from fruit rather than attempt to find out what's " 99% pure " chemical synthetic? *°º°*~Michelle~*°º°* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 I don't think so. For one, it is much more economical to manufacture vitamin C. Extracting " natural " vitamin C from fruit would also require a chemical process with many steps, some using similar toxic chemicals. It's not done, to my knowledge. It's possible to extract natural vitamin C from rose hips but a very large quantity is required. In addition, if you're going to try intravenous vitamin C, it's important to have purity. David primalmommieto5 said: > > but isn't it simpler to just use the natural vitamin c that IS extracted > from fruit rather than attempt to find out what's " 99% pure " chemical > synthetic? > > > *°º°*~Michelle~*°º°* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2005 Report Share Posted April 14, 2005 In a message dated 4/14/2005 2:06:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, listbox writes: It's not done, to my knowledge. It's possible to extract natural vitamin C from rose hips but a very large quantity is required Nutrilite gets theirs from acerola cherries.. in fact, they own 97% of the world's acerola cherry trees. I personally can't afford this, admittedly.. I'm a single mom of 5 children..I can't afford gum LOL.. but I'd still prefer it to chemical. I don't do chemicals. *°º°*~Michelle~*°º°* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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