Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu shots, though.) Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. Should I not have her get her boosters? Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " vaccinated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I unfortunately had my child get the first two DPT shots, a little hesitantly, but I hadn't read enough to convince myself. By the time the next scheduled one rolled around, I had read enough, and he has not had one vaccine since. If I were you, I wouldn't have her vaccinated again. You never know, it might be that next one that causes major problems in the present (not to mention the unknown future problems...) After that decision, I did keep voraciously reading up on vaccines for awhile, sometimes waffled slightly, but in the end, decided there was no way he or I would have another vaccine. Joy , " teensterbeenster " <tina wrote: > > My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu shots, though.) > Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. > Should I not have her get her boosters? > Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " vaccinated? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 To my knowledge, there are no dangers to " partial " vaccination. (It isn't like not finishing a course of antibiotics.) The only downside is that if you believe vaccines work, then not getting her boosters could result in her losing immunity. But many people who don't vaccinate doubt that the shots provide immunity to begin with, so they would say not getting more wouldn't cost anything at all. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Well, now that you are aware of the many, many dangers I would say NO! to any boosters of flu shots. Her body will only get stronger and more able to fight off infection if you cease to vaccinate. There is no safe age to vaccinate. Please look into this wonderful group that I've been a part of for 2 years now: http://health.Vaccinations/ and also this site for everything you need to know about vaccines: www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Sincerely, Connie , " teensterbeenster " <tina wrote: > > My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu shots, though.) > Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. > Should I not have her get her boosters? > Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " vaccinated? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 This is a big issue and fortunately a lot more parents are starting to think for themselves instead of buying into the scare tactics of doctors. I have begun to speak out against vaccines publicly b/c I feel there is a need for more opposition. With my first child, I simply did not know I had a choice, but with my second I was fully informed and ready to say NO and loudly if need be. I feel that if your child doesn't suffer immediate side effects, you have dodged a bullet. But the scary thing is, there are no long term studies. Everyone involved in pushing vaccines has monetary ties to the industry and a lot of doctors are just plain brainwashed and taught not to question their educators. Vaccines do not provide immunity, one size does not fit all, it's a corrupt industry and vaccine pushers know very little about immune systems, especially those of an infant. Connie , " jmr1290 " <jomarex wrote: > > I unfortunately had my child get the first two DPT shots, a little > hesitantly, but I hadn't read enough to convince myself. By the time > the next scheduled one rolled around, I had read enough, and he has > not had one vaccine since. If I were you, I wouldn't have her > vaccinated again. You never know, it might be that next one that > causes major problems in the present (not to mention the unknown > future problems...) > > After that decision, I did keep voraciously reading up on vaccines for > awhile, sometimes waffled slightly, but in the end, decided there was > no way he or I would have another vaccine. > > Joy > > > , " teensterbeenster " > <tina@> wrote: > > > > My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu > shots, though.) > > Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. > > Should I not have her get her boosters? > > Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " > vaccinated? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 If you live in a state where you can opt out of them then I advise you to do so. I haven't vaccinated my kids in 10 years, nor will I ever again. How good are the vaccines really. The ones my husband and I had back in the 60's were no good, so here we have been running around for 40 years with no vaccination and have never come down with anything. Think twice as well about getting a Tetanus shot. If you can find one that doesn't have Pertussis mixed in with it it might be safe to take. If you are ever cut or scratched with something that might give you Tetnus it will not do any good to go and get a shot for it. The shots take 3 days to kick in and in the mean time you might already have Tetanus. The ER's like to give them just in case. What a farce. Daphne , <helensan wrote: > > To my knowledge, there are no dangers to " partial " vaccination. (It isn't like not finishing a course of antibiotics.) The only downside is that if you believe vaccines work, then not getting her boosters could result in her losing immunity. But many people who don't vaccinate doubt that the shots provide immunity to begin with, so they would say not getting more wouldn't cost anything at all. > > Helen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 Don’t public schools require vaccinations in order for the child to attend the school? Health & Happiness To You, ~Leese _____ On Behalf Of connieyounglmt Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:33 AM Re: Childhood Vaccinations Well, now that you are aware of the many, many dangers I would say NO! to any boosters of flu shots. Her body will only get stronger and more able to fight off infection if you cease to vaccinate. There is no safe age to vaccinate. Please look into this wonderful group that I've been a part of for 2 years now: http://health. <http://health.Vaccinations/> Vaccinations/ and also this site for everything you need to know about vaccines: www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm Sincerely, Connie @ <%40> , " teensterbeenster " <tina wrote: > > My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu shots, though.) > Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. > Should I not have her get her boosters? > Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " vaccinated? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I suggest you Google the ingredients of vaccines and make your own decision on this. Personally, I did vaccinate my daughter for the first three sets before I knew better. It was enough to cause chronic meningitis. She had migraines almost every day which was caused by mercury which at the time was used as a preservative. If you do go with the vaccinations make sure to ask to see the ACTUAL container it is coming out of and read the ingredients. Some offices have two types of vaccines (heard this straight from a doctor in the US) depending on your insurance. I think it should be banned but that's just my opinion. Here's a quote I saved just the other day: What if a " dirty bomb " exploded over a large segment of U.S.population that simultaneously exposed citizens to Hepatitis B,Hepatitis A, tetanus, pertussis, diphtheria, three strains of polio viruses, three strains of influenza, measles, mumps, and rubella viruses, two types of meningitis, four strains of herpes viruses, the chickenpox virus, 7 strains of Streptococcus bacteria, and four strains of rotavirus. • We would declare a national emergency. • It would be an " extreme act of BIOTERRORISM • The public outcry would be immense and our government would react accordingly. And yet, those are the very organisms we inject into our babies and our small children in multiple doses, with immature, underdeveloped immunesystems, many at the same time with vaccines. But instead of bioterrorism, we call it " protection. " Reflect on that irony. - Dr Sheri Tenpenny, MD , " teensterbeenster " <tina wrote: > > My daughter is 3. She's been vaccinated up until this point. (No flu shots, though.) > Now I am more aware of the dangers of vaccination. > Should I not have her get her boosters? > Or at this point would it be more dangerous to be only " partially " vaccinated? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Yes Leese, The schools and the doctors will tell you that, " You're child can't attend school without them! " That's how they got me to give my daughter the HepB and 3 shots of the DPT! After some reading I found a form called an Immunization Waiver. I stopped in the middle of the DPT series and fired both doctors that lied to me about this. When I pushed the 2ND doctor as to why she lied she said that it was good for me to do it anyway if not for her(my daughters') protection but for the protection of other kids. I still find it hard to forgive myself for being so misinformed and allowing her perfect little body to be accosted with the potentially fatal and brain damaging JUNK that is in those things. The truth...it's BIG MONEY and the drug companies have the doctors in their pockets. It's sickening and they don't work anyway. For example fully immunized communities have come down with the very disease they were supposed to be immunized against! A good book...DPT A Shot in the Dark. Peace out..Liz I fill out the Immunization Waiver every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Hi, I was an ignorant person concerning vaccines when I had my son, so he received his baby's vaccines. As I became more and more familiar with the issue, I stop his vaccines altogether. Not even a booster. I have lived in 3 states since then: NY, CA, and NC and I always made a petition to the schools to waive him from vaccinations and they all accepted it. I don't even say it is because of religion; rather, I say that my philosophical believes prevent me from vaccinating him. My son is in college now. Dr. Maria Moratto Prescription For Bliss http://rx4bliss.com Dr. Maria Conversation Series http://drmariapresents.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Liz, Thank you for the information about the Immunization Waiver. I do not have children, but if I ever do, that will come in handy. I will also tell my sister, although her child has already had her baby shots. (She's aged 3) Health & Happiness To You, ~Leese _____ On Behalf Of liz_33103 Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 PM Re: Childhood Vaccinations Yes Leese, The schools and the doctors will tell you that, " You're child can't attend school without them! " That's how they got me to give my daughter the HepB and 3 shots of the DPT! After some reading I found a form called an Immunization Waiver. I stopped in the middle of the DPT series and fired both doctors that lied to me about this. When I pushed the 2ND doctor as to why she lied she said that it was good for me to do it anyway if not for her(my daughters') protection but for the protection of other kids. I still find it hard to forgive myself for being so misinformed and allowing her perfect little body to be accosted with the potentially fatal and brain damaging JUNK that is in those things. The truth...it's BIG MONEY and the drug companies have the doctors in their pockets. It's sickening and they don't work anyway. For example fully immunized communities have come down with the very disease they were supposed to be immunized against! A good book...DPT A Shot in the Dark. Peace out..Liz I fill out the Immunization Waiver every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 HI, Just to add in my two cents.. i tried signing a Immunizaton Waiver for college - but the state of NJ board of helth department has laws that say that the only ways you can " waive " the immunzation stuff is either by religious statutes or if you are medically not needed them.... so i would look into what your state allows and doesnt allow .... (annoying isnt it?) good luck ! deborah LISA <merekitten wrote: Liz, Thank you for the information about the Immunization Waiver. I do not have children, but if I ever do, that will come in handy. I will also tell my sister, although her child has already had her baby shots. (She's aged 3) Health & Happiness To You, ~Leese _____ On Behalf Of liz_33103 Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 PM Re: Childhood Vaccinations Yes Leese, The schools and the doctors will tell you that, " You're child can't attend school without them! " That's how they got me to give my daughter the HepB and 3 shots of the DPT! After some reading I found a form called an Immunization Waiver. I stopped in the middle of the DPT series and fired both doctors that lied to me about this. When I pushed the 2ND doctor as to why she lied she said that it was good for me to do it anyway if not for her(my daughters') protection but for the protection of other kids. I still find it hard to forgive myself for being so misinformed and allowing her perfect little body to be accosted with the potentially fatal and brain damaging JUNK that is in those things. The truth...it's BIG MONEY and the drug companies have the doctors in their pockets. It's sickening and they don't work anyway. For example fully immunized communities have come down with the very disease they were supposed to be immunized against! A good book...DPT A Shot in the Dark. Peace out..Liz I fill out the Immunization Waiver every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2007 Report Share Posted July 21, 2007 Re: Childhood Vaccinations Regulations on immunizations vary from state to state. They are regulations, not law. Get Waivers at county dept. of health. There are 2 types of exemptions: medical and religious. If you want to stop all shots, you must use religious. That can be for a specific religion or personal religious belief. I have 3 children born in the 1980's and refused to immunize them. They have been through preschools, schools and universities in NY and Fl. Dr's and school lie all the time. These shots are not required. As for endangerment, children with live vaccines present a real danger to us, not us to them. The best defense is a good immune system. Non of the facts add up here. These shots do not really protect you and they do not last as long as they say. And they are highly toxic. There are alternative homeopathic solutions. If your children have had some shots, you can stop and use Thuja to clear them out. Mercury will need to be cleared out separately if they have any. There are several ways to test for it and to get rid of it. Write me if you have specific questions. Namaste, David In , " LISA " <merekitten wrote: > > Liz, > Thank you for the information about the Immunization Waiver. > > I do not have children, but if I ever do, that will come in handy. > > I will also tell my sister, although her child has already had her baby > shots. (She's aged 3) > > > > Health & Happiness To You, > ~Leese > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of liz_33103 > Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 PM > > Re: Childhood Vaccinations > > > > Yes Leese, > The schools and the doctors will tell you that, " You're child can't > attend school without them! " That's how they got me to give my > daughter the HepB and 3 shots of the DPT! After some reading I found > a form called an Immunization Waiver. I stopped in the middle of the > DPT series and fired both doctors that lied to me about this. When I > pushed the 2ND doctor as to why she lied she said that it was good for > me to do it anyway if not for her(my daughters') protection but for > the protection of other kids. I still find it hard to forgive myself > for being so misinformed and allowing her perfect little body to be > accosted with the potentially fatal and brain damaging JUNK that is in > those things. The truth...it's BIG MONEY and the drug companies have > the doctors in their pockets. It's sickening and they don't work > anyway. For example fully immunized communities have come down with > the very disease they were supposed to be immunized against! A good > book...DPT A Shot in the Dark. > > Peace out..Liz > > I fill out the Immunization Waiver every year. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 , " Dr. Maria Moratto " <drmoratto wrote: > > Hi, > I was an ignorant person concerning vaccines when I had my son, > so he received his baby's vaccines. As I became more and more > familiar with the issue, I stop his vaccines altogether. Not even > a booster. > I have lived in 3 states since then: NY, CA, and NC and I always > made a petition to the schools to waive him from vaccinations and > they all accepted it. I don't even say it is because of religion; > rather, I say that my philosophical believes prevent me from > vaccinating him. My son is in college now. > > Dr. Maria Moratto > Prescription For Bliss > http://rx4bliss.com > Dr. Maria Conversation Series > http://drmariapresents.com > I did that with my 35 yr. old son but the schools my grand children go to say, sorry they can't come back here without vaccinations up to date. peace, thyme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 Thank you so much David! I am going to keep this e-mail for future reference. Health & Happiness To You, ~Leese _____ On Behalf Of divya4753 Saturday, July 21, 2007 8:53 AM Re: Childhood Vaccinations Re: Childhood Vaccinations Regulations on immunizations vary from state to state. They are regulations, not law. Get Waivers at county dept. of health. There are 2 types of exemptions: medical and religious. If you want to stop all shots, you must use religious. That can be for a specific religion or personal religious belief. I have 3 children born in the 1980's and refused to immunize them. They have been through preschools, schools and universities in NY and Fl. Dr's and school lie all the time. These shots are not required. As for endangerment, children with live vaccines present a real danger to us, not us to them. The best defense is a good immune system. Non of the facts add up here. These shots do not really protect you and they do not last as long as they say. And they are highly toxic. There are alternative homeopathic solutions. If your children have had some shots, you can stop and use Thuja to clear them out. Mercury will need to be cleared out separately if they have any. There are several ways to test for it and to get rid of it. Write me if you have specific questions. Namaste, David In @ <%40> , " LISA " <merekitten wrote: > > Liz, > Thank you for the information about the Immunization Waiver. > > I do not have children, but if I ever do, that will come in handy. > > I will also tell my sister, although her child has already had her baby > shots. (She's aged 3) > > > > Health & Happiness To You, > ~Leese > > _____ > > @ <%40> > [@ <%40> ] On Behalf Of liz_33103 > Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:27 PM > @ <%40> > Re: Childhood Vaccinations > > > > Yes Leese, > The schools and the doctors will tell you that, " You're child can't > attend school without them! " That's how they got me to give my > daughter the HepB and 3 shots of the DPT! After some reading I found > a form called an Immunization Waiver. I stopped in the middle of the > DPT series and fired both doctors that lied to me about this. When I > pushed the 2ND doctor as to why she lied she said that it was good for > me to do it anyway if not for her(my daughters') protection but for > the protection of other kids. I still find it hard to forgive myself > for being so misinformed and allowing her perfect little body to be > accosted with the potentially fatal and brain damaging JUNK that is in > those things. The truth...it's BIG MONEY and the drug companies have > the doctors in their pockets. It's sickening and they don't work > anyway. For example fully immunized communities have come down with > the very disease they were supposed to be immunized against! A good > book...DPT A Shot in the Dark. > > Peace out..Liz > > I fill out the Immunization Waiver every year. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 As someone who has been very involved in vaccine choice activism, I would just like to set the record straight. 1. Vaccines are required by law in all 50 states before attending private or public schools (including day care). Which vaccines are required by law varies from state to state. The actual text of the law can be found at this link: http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm It is important to check which vaccines are legally required because some states do not require the full schedule recommended by doctors. 2. Medical exemptions are accepted in all 50 states. An MD or DO will have to write a note saying that vaccines would be contraindicated for a child for a specific reason. 3. Religious exemptions are accepted in 48 of the 50 states. (The only two that doesn't allow religious exemptions are West Virginia and Mississippi.) The form varies from state to state, but in essence, you claim that vaccinating is against your religious beliefs. The state is not supposed to require that your religion be a specific type or that you belong to any church--that is, the state is not supposed to judge that some " religions " are more valid than others. 4. Philosophical exemptions are accepted as well in 17 of the 50 states. That means you can claim an exemption based on philosophical beliefs that are not religious. For example, an atheist would be allowed to be exempt, or you can claim exemption based on your vegetarianism and objection to animal testing and ingredients. This site is the one I use when I need to get more information. In addition, most states have their own vaccine choice organizations and websites that you can look up. Those links are also at this site. http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm Hope that helps, Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Hi Helen, Thanks for the information! With Peace, Love & Gratitude, Michelle www.HeavenlyScent.net , <helensan wrote: > > As someone who has been very involved in vaccine choice activism, I would just like to set the record straight. > > 1. Vaccines are required by law in all 50 states before attending private or public schools (including day care). Which vaccines are required by law varies from state to state. The actual text of the law can be found at this link: > http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm > It is important to check which vaccines are legally required because some states do not require the full schedule recommended by doctors. > > 2. Medical exemptions are accepted in all 50 states. An MD or DO will have to write a note saying that vaccines would be contraindicated for a child for a specific reason. > > 3. Religious exemptions are accepted in 48 of the 50 states. (The only two that doesn't allow religious exemptions are West Virginia and Mississippi.) The form varies from state to state, but in essence, you claim that vaccinating is against your religious beliefs. The state is not supposed to require that your religion be a specific type or that you belong to any church--that is, the state is not supposed to judge that some " religions " are more valid than others. > > 4. Philosophical exemptions are accepted as well in 17 of the 50 states. That means you can claim an exemption based on philosophical beliefs that are not religious. For example, an atheist would be allowed to be exempt, or you can claim exemption based on your vegetarianism and objection to animal testing and ingredients. > > This site is the one I use when I need to get more information. In addition, most states have their own vaccine choice organizations and websites that you can look up. Those links are also at this site. > http://www.nvic.org/state-site/state-exemptions.htm > > Hope that helps, > > Helen > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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