candidiasis-long-if U have nothing to do!

January 8, 2004

Nuts are OK only if they are fresh - ie still in the shell. Once out of the shell there is a risk that the oil in them becomes rancid and the nut tastes bitter. Then you may reactivate the candida as mould may develop.

Pity to deplete your husband's body flesh because you are vegan and he is ill - could you not allow him to eat say 4 ounces of organic chicken a day until he is well, then go back to being vegan?

Judith

January 9, 2004

No offense

intended, but my first thought was that your diet is not the same one your

husband needs. The point of this lifestyle- and I believe healthy living is

most certainly not a few isolated practices but a whole way of life- is health.

The body tells one what it needs. His might not be receiving sufficient

nutrition to repair itself. You also say he is thin, and that he is always saying

what can I eat. I would look closely and honestly at whether a vegan diet is

the one his particular system needs. The right tool for the right job…

Just my

thoughts.

Michael

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Persian

[persian13]

Friday, January 09, 2004

3:23 PM

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Re: [herbal remedies]

candidiasis-long-if U have nothing to do!

Hi,

On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 11:11:32 +1030, Judith Thamm wrote:

>

> Nuts are OK only if they are fresh - ie still in the shell. Once

out of the shell there is a

risk that the oil in them becomes rancid and the nut tastes bitter. Then

you may reactivate the

candida as mould may develop.

>

> Pity to deplete your husband's body flesh because you are vegan and he

is ill - could you not

allow him to eat say 4 ounces of organic chicken a day until he is well,

then go back to being vegan?

> Judith

Absolutely not, he is a staunch vegan, he is totally against any animal

exploitation,

but thanks for the reply.

Persian

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January 9, 2004

i think you can definitely have a healthy diet that is vegan too.

and i am wary of the statement that " your body knows what it needs. "

on the one hand i agree but on the other hand this doesn't really

take into account when your body is unhealthy and addicted to

particular foods. when you have an overgrowth of candida your body

craves starchy foods and sugary foods...this is not b/c your body

needs these things...but the candida needs these things to thrive.

how many times i have seen someone justifying eating some potato

chips b/c they feel their body " needs " salt. i think as we become

healthier and grow to know our bodies this statement can hold truer.

when i was on a very strict diet...which i could really only keep up

for a month...after that i used a more moderate diet...i found that

grains once a day would help to fill me up--other than wheat--making

quinoa, amarath or brown rice...and just eating a ton of veggies.

most diets i've seen also say corn is ok so i would buy organic corn

tortillas and make them with some black beans. also if your husband

is thin be sure he's getting plenty of fats. lots of avocados, young

coconut (can make smoothies from these) and flax seed oil. if on

occasion he feels the need for a " snack " type food you could try a

few corn chips or popcorn (obviously organic and w/o anything added

except maybe a little olive oil and sea salt). i hope these

suggestions help at all. i have also heard really good things about

grapefruit seed extract and used this along with other herbs...i

forget if you said he was on that one or not. you also need to do

what you can...the importance is to make long term changes b/c i

think it can take quite a while to rid the body of this

imbalance...so this may mean being a bit more moderate at times and

prioritizing what the the definite no-nos are...i would say sugar,

breads, alcohol are at the top of the list.

good luck.

luv laura

herbal remedies , Persian <persian13@i...>

wrote:

> HI,

>

> On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:11:37 -0600, Michael wrote:

> > No offense intended, but my first thought was that your diet is

not the same

> > one your husband needs. The point of this lifestyle- and I

believe healthy

> > living is most certainly not a few isolated practices but a whole

way of

> > life- is health. The body tells one what it needs. His might not

be

> > receiving sufficient nutrition to repair itself. You also say he

is thin,

> > and that he is always saying what can I eat. I would look closely

and

> > honestly at whether a vegan diet is the one his particular system

needs. The

> > right tool for the right job…

>

> Thank you for your reply. My husband has been on various

painkillers for 27 years, usually

> his prescription is for 240 per month, due to a nerve injury

sustained in an accident many years ago.

> I believe his diet is fine, but the drugs have weakened his immune

system and the candida

> has taken hold. I also belive it is the yeast overgrowth which has

also caused the leaky gut

> syndrome and led to malabsorption problems.

>

> He is hungary as he is so used to eating a lot of bread which is

now not allowed

> and we are looking for permissable foods that are filling.

>

> Our vegan diet is very well balanced and almost all organic. I just

> cannot see how adding animal protein to it, as someone suggested,

could help in

> any way at all. I feel protein is highly over rated and people

generally believe

> we need a lot more of it than we actually do. Meat on the other

hand seems to

> cause endless problems and I personally consider it to be a

dangerous and totally unnecessary 'food'

> and most likely a contributor to some cancers.

>

> Thanks for your comments anyway

>

> Persian

January 11, 2004

Baking powder is a combination of Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and a weak acid or acidic compountd and a filler. Usually consists of Baking Soda, tartaric acid or monobasic calcium phosphate, and cornstarch. But can also use ammonium carbonate and ptassium bitrartrate.

Yes, it is a synthetic leavening agent.

This comes from "Hawley's Condensed Chemical Dictionary" 14th edition.

HTH,

Don Q.

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Persian

herbal remedies

Sunday, January 11, 2004 8:23 AM

Re: [herbal remedies] candidiasis-long-if U have nothing to do!

HiOn Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 10:55:29 -0800, Suzanne wrote:> Persian,> Can he have sprouted bread???> Suzi> > > Yes Laura is right, it would have to be yeast free, I also read that any otherraising agents are not allowed on the candida diet. Here we call one ofthem baking powder, I don't know its chemical composition, and I thoughtabout trying to make some sort of bread with it. Not sure why it's not allowed.PersianFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington