hyper adrenaline system

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Give us some more info... what is his diet like, foods, drinks, etc... what meds is he on?

When did this start? What was going on in his life?

Suzininimom24 <ninimom24 wrote:

my poor dh has been dealing with what has been described to us as an adrenaline rush at inappropriate times for over a year now. it happens about 4 or more times a day, and feels almost like a heart attack to him. it looks kinda like he's having a seizure whenever it happens. It's been diagnosed as panic attacks, but it's nothing like what most people with panic disorder experience.Does anybody have any suggestions? he's been on one prescription after another, but all they've done is give him side effects.thanxingridFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not

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Suzi

 

This started over a year ago. He says it was September of 2002 when

it all started. He had just returned to a job that he didn't like,

but didn't feel as though he had a lot of choice in working

there...he has his own business for the summer and this company was

willing to work with his need to be off for the summer. He also

already knew all the ins and outs of the job. We felt as though as

soon as he got back to his own business, that the attacks would

subside, but they didn't. over the past 3-4 months, they've only

gotten worse. He did have an abusive childhood, and tried one

shrink, but he obviously wasn't doing any good, so he stopped. He's

sure that IF this is actually panic attacks, it's original cause is

his past.

 

His diet has progressively gotten better over the past few months.

He used to eat at BK quite frequently, but since money is a big issue

right now, we eat at home all the time. i always have veggies on the

table, and i'm careful how much processed foods i have in the

house...including white flour...we've even switched to whole wheat

noodles and brown rice.

 

he's been on paxil, zanex, nuerontin, effexor, and now tranxene.

he's starting the tranxene tonight...it's supposed to be related to

valium. i don't know how he feels about them, but i absolutely HATE

the idea of all these chemicals being put into his body. i'd love to

see him using an herb or tincture or eo and get off the meds

completely. Unfortunately, the scrips are free to us and the other

is not...so he's more concerned about saving us money.

 

does this help? Anything else i can tell you?

ingrid

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Even though he is back to his company, he still knows that he has to go back to the one he doesn't like (STRESS).... How about Doc's nerve sedative formula.... Does he do any exercising... to release the stress? I, mystelf, find it hard to relate it to his past if it only started a year ago... Sounds more stress related to a situation and until he rids himself of the job he hates it will continue... You did say it started then... Subconciously he has that bad job in his mind....knowing that he has to go back after each summer.. Another thing here is to try visualization.... seeing the outcome you want... as in another job or the job he has changing, etc.

Suzininimom24 <ninimom24 wrote:

SuziThis started over a year ago. He says it was September of 2002 when it all started. He had just returned to a job that he didn't like, but didn't feel as though he had a lot of choice in working there...he has his own business for the summer and this company was willing to work with his need to be off for the summer. He also already knew all the ins and outs of the job. We felt as though as soon as he got back to his own business, that the attacks would subside, but they didn't. over the past 3-4 months, they've only gotten worse. He did have an abusive childhood, and tried one shrink, but he obviously wasn't doing any good, so he stopped. He's sure that IF this is actually panic attacks, it's original cause is his past.His diet has progressively gotten better over the past few months. He used to eat at BK quite

frequently, but since money is a big issue right now, we eat at home all the time. i always have veggies on the table, and i'm careful how much processed foods i have in the house...including white flour...we've even switched to whole wheat noodles and brown rice.he's been on paxil, zanex, nuerontin, effexor, and now tranxene. he's starting the tranxene tonight...it's supposed to be related to valium. i don't know how he feels about them, but i absolutely HATE the idea of all these chemicals being put into his body. i'd love to see him using an herb or tincture or eo and get off the meds completely. Unfortunately, the scrips are free to us and the other is not...so he's more concerned about saving us money.does this help? Anything else i can tell you?ingridFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician

before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Okay here's some info. It's very likely Its NOT PPD, in fact it probably isn't, but if the past is coming up and the stress is uncontrollable, there is that possibility. Here's some stuff I clipped out of various articles:

 

 

Physical symptoms such as headaches, gastrointestinal distress, immune system problems, dizziness, chest pain, or discomfort in other parts of the body are common in people with PTSD. Often, doctors treat these symptoms without being aware that they stem from an anxiety disorder.

 

 

 

Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

 

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) is an anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to a terrifying event or ordeal in which grave physical harm occurred or was threatened. Traumatic events that may trigger PTSD include violent personal assaults, natural or human-caused disasters, accidents, or military combat.

 

Among those who may experience PTSD are military troops who served in the Vietnam and Gulf Wars; rescue workers involved in the aftermath of disasters like the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.; survivors of the Oklahoma City bombing; survivors of accidents, rape, physical and sexual abuse, and other crimes; immigrants fleeing violence in their countries; survivors of the 1994 California earthquake, the 1997 North and South Dakota floods, and hurricanes Hugo and Andrew; and people who witness traumatic events. Family members of victims also can develop the disorder. PTSD can occur in people of any age, including children and adolescents.

 

Many people with PTSD repeatedly re-experience the ordeal in the form of flashback episodes, memories, nightmares, or frightening thoughts, especially when they are exposed to events or objects reminiscent of the trauma. Anniversaries of the event can also trigger symptoms. People with PTSD also experience emotional numbness and sleep disturbances, depression, anxiety, and irritability or outbursts of anger. Feelings of intense guilt are also common. Most people with PTSD try to avoid any reminders or thoughts of the ordeal. PTSD is diagnosed when symptoms last more than 1 month

 

 

When Does PTSD First Occur?

 

PTSD can develop at any age, including in childhood. Symptoms typically begin within 3 months of a traumatic event, although occasionally they do not begin until years later. Once PTSD occurs, the severity and duration of the illness varies. Some people recover within 6 months, while others suffer much longer.

 

The following are also recent research findings:

In brain imaging studies, researchers have found that the hippocampus—a part of the brain critical to memory and emotion—appears to be different in cases of PTSD. Scientists are investigating whether this is related to short-term memory problems. Changes in the hippocampus are thought to be responsible for intrusive memories and flashbacks that occur in people with this disorder.

People with PTSD tend to have abnormal levels of key hormones involved in response to stress. Some studies have shown that cortisol levels are lower than normal and epinephrine and norepinephrine are higher than normal.

When people are in danger, they produce high levels of natural opiates, which can temporarily mask pain. Scientists have found that people with PTSD continue to produce those higher levels even after the danger has passed; this may lead to the blunted emotions associated with the condition.

 

 

Erin

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i failed to mention that come april last year, he left that job for

good. he went to his own business not exactly sure of where he would

be in the fall, but then he got a fone call asking him to manage a

new store just like the old one...he liked the original job itself,

but not the owner. This was pretty exciting, but after he got

involved in the new job, he found the new boss to be worse than the

first. So now he's left that job and hasn't worked in a month. So,

yes, there's a lot of stress. At this point, we can't afford to

purchase anything because we've had only 3 days of paying work in the

last month. And i've got lots of expenses coming up with the birth

of this baby.

 

Any ideas would certainly be helpful...but i don't know if we'd be

able to afford anything. it would be nice to know what could work

for him when he does start work again!

 

ingrid

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He started seeing a doc about a month after they started and the doc

sent him for heart tests, and gave him a thorough blood test and

physical at the same time. He couldn't find anything wrong in those

areas. We went to the ER about a month later because he had been

having so many of them that day. He did his best to describe it to

the doc there and the doc, after listening for about 2 min said that

they were panic attacks and then he told us what happens to the body

during a panic attack. That's when we learned that it's an

adrenaline rush.

 

Our original pcp moved shortly after, so we found a new doc. this

new doc said he thought maybe it was minor seizures and sent him to a

neurologist. the neurologist had him walk a line (is this patient

drunk? lol) and said, not seizures, it's panic. Then our new pcp

sent him to a terrible psychologist who spent more time talking about

himself than listening to my dh and dh knew it wasn't going to do any

good, so he stopped seeing him.

 

he has found that certain activities or topics do send him into an

attack...especially money or numbers. Things that remind him of the

abuse he endured as a child set him off as well. We were watching a

movie not long after he was diagnosed and in the movie, something

happened that was a LITTLE " too close to home " for him and he had an

attack.

 

ingrid

 

herbal remedies , ErinJC23@a... wrote:

> Why are they saying it is an adrenaline rush do you know? What sort

of tests have they done? Has he seen a psychologist? Does he have any

flashbacks during this time?

>

> Best wishes to you,

>

> Erin

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Have you thought about meditation? Yoga? to relieve the stress. Deep breathing to relax? You could find techniques on the web for this. and it wouldn't cost. Plus some relaxation teas....

This site might be useful http://herbsforhealth.about.com/library/weekly/aa102497.htm

Suzininimom24 <ninimom24 wrote:

i failed to mention that come april last year, he left that job for good. he went to his own business not exactly sure of where he would be in the fall, but then he got a fone call asking him to manage a new store just like the old one...he liked the original job itself, but not the owner. This was pretty exciting, but after he got involved in the new job, he found the new boss to be worse than the first. So now he's left that job and hasn't worked in a month. So, yes, there's a lot of stress. At this point, we can't afford to purchase anything because we've had only 3 days of paying work in the last month. And i've got lots of expenses coming up with the birth of this baby.Any ideas would certainly be helpful...but i don't know if we'd be able to afford anything. it would be nice to know what could work for him when he does

start work again!ingridFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Question, what are these attacks like? I ask because from time to time I feel like my heart is just off. Beats funy or really hard or something and I have trouble catching my breath, .. chest doesn't really hurt but is tight. Mine is from a hyperactive thyroid. Only last a few seconds then it's gone. I also be shaky and faint.JaimeWell, sounds like my panic attacks when I hyperventilate. Shaky, light headed, almost like a heart attack (what I imagine it to be) but without the pain. I tend to feel like I can't inhale, when the fact is, I have all the air my lungs will hold, just doesn't feel like it. Hearrt feels like it is beating VERY hard and almost fibrillating.....Love...

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