Herbal Remedies - link between PCBs in fish and low thyroid??

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I think the total cleanse is the right start, along with Total Nutrition .. and alot of raw veggies and fruits, sprouted grains.. this should get you going again.

Suzisupervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote:

Hi y'all,Got a hypothesis, let me know what you think.As some of you know, I have a hypothyroid. This is one of those things I NEVER thought would happen to me, since I've always had high metabolism, almost always had a slender frame, and I'm constantly eating. A slow thyroid is the LAST thing I ever thought I'd encounter.After my naturopath told me that there are PCB (polychlorinated biphenyl) compounds in the feed of farm-raised fish (which I consumed regularly until I heard this) and they're carcinogenic,

 

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Jen,

get yourself some Total nutrition... and you can always do a total organic juice diet for a week and see how that helps you.. (It will)... until you can do a total cleanse.

Suzisupervixen08 <supervixen08 wrote:

Hey Suzi :)Will do. Doing a lot of raw fruits and I TOTALLY LOVE my sprouted grain bread! I started on it last month and now I won't do ANYTHING but. lol I affectionately refer to it as my "birdseed bread" ks that's what it looks like

 

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Hi Suzi,

I LIKE that idea! I'm gonna do the 3day juice cleanse next

weekend.

Love,

--Jen

 

herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats>

wrote:

> Jen,

> get yourself some Total nutrition... and you can always do a total

organic juice diet for a week and see how that helps you.. (It

will)... until you can do a total cleanse.

> Suzi

>

> supervixen08 <supervixen08> wrote:

> Hey Suzi

> Will do. Doing a lot of raw fruits and I TOTALLY LOVE my sprouted

> grain bread! I started on it last month and now I won't do ANYTHING

> but. lol I affectionately refer to it as my " birdseed bread " ks

> that's what it looks like

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hey i have to agree! I'm on day 18 of the whole program and i feel

better today (and mind you i have had nothing solid to eat since

Friday) than i have in so many years. I too thought i was

invinceable when i was a tiny size 5, but the reality is, toxic

living finally cought up with me whether it was my fault or not.

 

I feel like a pyscho cheerleader for the cleanse right now, but hey

who can argue with the results????

 

Sylvia

 

herbal remedies , Suzanne <suziesgoats>

wrote:

> I think the total cleanse is the right start, along with Total

Nutrition .. and alot of raw veggies and fruits, sprouted grains..

this should get you going again.

> Suzi

>

> supervixen08 <supervixen08> wrote:

> Hi y'all,

> Got a hypothesis, let me know what you think.

> As some of you know, I have a hypothyroid. This is one of those

> things I NEVER thought would happen to me, since I've always had

high

> metabolism, almost always had a slender frame, and I'm constantly

> eating. A slow thyroid is the LAST thing I ever thought I'd

encounter.

> After my naturopath told me that there are PCB (polychlorinated

> biphenyl) compounds in the feed of farm-raised fish (which I

consumed

> regularly until I heard this) and they're carcinogenic,

>

>

>

> Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online

[Guest guest]

Awesome, Kel! Thanks for your feedback!

 

Hehe I actually emailed my local Whole Foods Market about the farm-

raised fish and it bounced between several different people at the

company; I'm assuming they were looking into the issue.

 

My msg was as follows:

 

To Whom it may concern:

>

> I'm a loyal Whole Foods customer. I have a question

> for you.

>

> According to an article about farm-raised salmon (at

> http://www.tidepool.org/dispatches/salmonfarmsolutions.cfm),

> posted to that site in December of 2002, the following

> statement appeared:

>

> " Partly as a result, Creative Salmon has garnered a

> niche market for its fish, supplying Whole Foods

> Market at a premium price well above industry

> standards. In addition, Evans says, the company's feed

> supplier certifies that the feed is from a sustainable

> fishery, is free of PCBs, and that the wheat-based

> binder in the fish pellets was raised organically. "

>

> My question is this: does Creative Salmon still supply

> your salmon? And does this company, to the VERY best

> of your (honest) knowledge, still adhere to this

> organic PCB- and antibiotic-free philosophy?

>

> I eagerly look forward to your response!

>

> Thank you & have a great day,

> --Jeni Laura

 

A few days later, I received this:

 

Jeni,

I am forwarding a response back to you from our regional co-ordinator

regarding the salmon supplier you mentioned. This market's farm raised

is coming from Norway, farm raised in pens in fjords (open water bays

in

the Atlantic), less than half the density of fish vs other farm raised

producers, no synthetic feed use, steroids, anti-biotics or any other

chemically inhanced items. The issue with pcb occurs when their is

poor

water flow, high density of fish per pen and synthetic feed. The

organic

matter builds up which converts to a toxin called pcb which then the

fish take back into there bodies. The norwegian we sell is the

cleanest

fish available on the market . Nobody can claim that their farm raised

is totally pcb free and if they do, that should raise a red flag. Only

salmon that is pcb free is wild which we carry two types. Alaskan coho

at 9.99 lb and Wild King at 11.99 lb. Hope this answers most of your

questions and don't hesitate to give me a call if I can help in any

other way. Thanks and have a great day.

 

Mike Smith

Seafood Team Leader

Whole Foods/Plano

 

And here was the message he forwarded from another honcho at Whole

Foods:

 

This is a very small company out of the Pacific Northwest who

supplies

some of

the Northern California Whole Foods with some very expensive farmed

salmon

Very Similar to our Norwegian program, but honestly the Norwegian is

a

better

program, strictly controlled water conditions regulated by the

government of

Norway, anti -biotic free and considered organic in the European

Union.

No

farmed salmon is " PCB Free " . Hope this helps..

 

" D.Mike Smith " wrote:

 

> Kevin,

> Are you familiar w/ this supplier?? I don't think this is where we

are

> getting our's since there is no mention of Norway. Let me know so

I

can

> respond back to this customer. Thanks.........................Mike

 

 

I'm really glad I have access to wild salmon! lol

 

Just thought I'd share. What, if anything, do y'all make of this?

 

Just brainfarting,

--JL

 

herbal remedies , " Kelli Bever " <kelli@c...>

wrote:

> Hi Jen,

>

> I think you're right on track with the farm raised fish issue.

There was an article recently regarding farm raised salmon that both

Doc and I independently posted to this group. You might want to

search the archives for it if you missed it.

>

> As far as my own thyroid goes, I can't really point at one specific

contributing factor, other than the fact that I had been truly eating

the STANDARD AMERICAN DIET for 40 years! Maybe a little better than

average - more veggies (because I love them!) and very little fast

food, but still all the naughties. I also loved a bit of steak

occassionally and never ate seafood at all.

>

> Since doing the cleanse I've stuck with an all organic diet with

breakfast and lunch being all raw. I do have something cooked with

dinner - either veggies or some meat and it's usually fish, some

shrimp or crab, or organic chicken. My thyroid, and all hormone

levels, remain perfectly normal!

>

>

>

> Kelli

>

>

> supervixen08 [supervixen08]

> Saturday, February 07, 2004 4:52 PM

> herbal remedies

> Herbal Remedies - link between PCBs in fish and low

thyroid??

>

> PS: Kelli, you mentioned you had a thyroid problem before you

did The

> Cleanse Was (farm-raised) fish a part of your diet, too,

or might

> it have been caused by something else?