Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

March 15, 2004

Hi Becky...Here is some basic data on protien requirements that was posted to this list a while back . It may help . There are some terrific raw foods cookbooks available as well .And here is a link to a great website , Living Foods, where you can find raw recipes.

http://www.living-foods.com/recipes/

Mary Ostrowski

Protein Requirements The body cannot store protein, so it needs a fresh supply every day. The Food and Nutrition Board of the National Academy of Sciences has established a daily Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for protein based on a person's age and weight. According toe the Academy, because most people in the United States eat meat and dairy products regularly, the average protein intake is higher than what most people need. So you should easily meet the following RDAs: The RDA for adults is 0.8 grams of protein for each kilogram (2.2 pounds) of body weight. This works out to 44 grams for a 120 pound person, 55 grams of protein for a weight of 150 pounds, and 66 grams for 180 pounds. These allowances assume that you eat a mixed diet of proteins - some high-quality (complete), some low-quality (incomplete). If, like most Americans, you consume mostly high-quality protein, your total requirement will there fore be slightly less. If you get almost all your protein from plant sources, it will be slightly greater. The variation due to the type of diet is no more than approximately 15 percent. Children under eighteen need some additional protein to allow for growth, and the younger they are, the more protein they need per pound of body weight. Pregnant women are allocated an additional 10 grams of protein per day by the RDA, lactating mothers an extra 12 to 15 grams during the first six months. Did you know? Beans provide nearly as much protein as meat, and are much lower in fat and calories. One cup of cooked beans contains 12 to 25 grams of protein, which is 25 to 50 percent of the RDA. Sources of Protein The foods below are all good sources of protein. The listed protein amounts are averages. Many foods that are relatively high in protein are also high in fat, so the chart indicates the percentage of fat accompanying each food. Try to limit your intake of protein sources that derive more than 30 percent of their calories from fat. Protein (Grams) Fat Calories Dairy and eggs Cheddar cheese, 1 oz. 7 70% Cottage cheese (2%), ½ cup 16 17% Egg, 1 medium 6 68% Ice cream, hard, vanilla, ½ cup 2 48% Milk, skim, 1 cup 8 5% Mozzarella, part skim, 1 oz. 8 56% Ricotta, part skim, ½ cup 10 53% Yogurt, low-fat, plain, 1 cup 12 25% Meat and fish (4 oz.) Chicken, light meat, roasted, no skin 31 26% Ground beef, extra lean, broiled 33 56% Turkey breast, roasted, no skin 24 6% Grains Oatmeal, 1 cup cooked 6 12% Rice, brown, 1 cup cooked 5 4% Spaghetti, 1 cup cooked 6 5% Whole wheat bread, 2 slices 6 13% Legumes and nuts Almonds, 1 oz. 6 82% Cashews, dry roasted, 1 oz. 4 71% Lentils, ½ cup cooked 8 4% Lima beans, ½ cup cooked 8 3% Peanut butter, 2 Tbsp. 10 76% Red kidney beans, ½ cup canned 8 4%

March 16, 2004

In a message dated 3/16/2004 4:45:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time, doodlebugboodles writes:

No, I don't think I need more protien, but I wanted to make sure I was getting enough outside the TN.

Becky

Most Americans exceed the amount of protein needed... We, as Americans, eat more meat than all the other cultures. Most make large veggie dishes and basically garnish with meat... We are backwards and eat the whole cow, etc! LOL

God Bless,

Jamie in AZ

March 16, 2004

In a message dated 3/16/2004 6:46:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lbastow writes:

I use red meat for iron, especially when pregnant. I have tried iron supplements and the whole veggie thing but the soil is so leached of nutrients that I find the red meat does much better for the iron pick me up.

The total nutrition will do that same thing for you, just up the dose while pregnant

March 16, 2004

Hi Becky,

The Living Foods web site that Mary pointed you to also has articles which will tell you that there is an awful lot of protein found in raw fruits and veggies. Surprise! Sprouted almonds are also extremely high in protein. You can also do one or two raw eggs in your TN drink (organic, of course).

Do you feel that you need more protein when you're on all raw? Or is it just a general concern?

:)Kelli

doodle bug [doodlebugboodles] Sunday, March 14, 2004 7:01 PMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

So I figure I need to relearn to eat, since my gov't indoctrination on the subject was all wrong. I know raw organic fruit and veggies are best, as well as sprouted grains, legumes and nuts. I also know TN is a great source of protien. Do I need more protien in a day beyond TN?

March 17, 2004

Panther Piss and vitamin E should help you.

SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

I use red meat for iron, especially when pregnant. I have tried iron supplements and the whole veggie thing but the soil is so leached of nutrients that I find the red meat does much better for the iron pick me up.

John Ybarra [deuteronomy2929] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:58 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

That is the main thing I miss about eating the way we do now. Red meat!! I used to tell the waitress/waiter, "just show the steak a picture of flame, and bring it out bleeding and moo-ing". MAN!! I love red meat!!!!!

Sorry, drooled all over my keyboard. Guess I need a cold shower.

;-)

JohnSpareRibOfAz wrote:

Most Americans exceed the amount of protein needed... We, as Americans, eat more meat than all the other cultures. Most make large veggie dishes and basically garnish with meat... We are backwards and eat the whole cow, etc! LOL

God Bless,

Jamie in AZ

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March 17, 2004

i'm already at 1/2 dose every other day

Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:19 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

Lauren

Have you tried less TN in apple juice? To work your way up?

SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

that comes up too

SpareRibOfAz [spareRibOfAz] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:58 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

In a message dated 3/16/2004 6:46:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lbastow writes:

I use red meat for iron, especially when pregnant. I have tried iron supplements and the whole veggie thing but the soil is so leached of nutrients that I find the red meat does much better for the iron pick me up.

The total nutrition will do that same thing for you, just up the dose while pregnantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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March 17, 2004

No, you take the vitamin E separate but you take it along side panther piss. Panther Piss has Organic Blackstrap Molasses in it which is rich with Iron. Iron has a tendency to use up the Vit E in your systemSuzi

Lauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

So does that make it oily panther piss?

Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:17 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

You take the vitamin E with the panther piss.

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March 17, 2004

Lauren,

Is this only when pregnant or all the time? Have you tried taking some ginger root tea... sometimes this helps the gag reflex.

SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

The days I do take it I spend half of it resisting the urge to vomit. that's why I take it so seldom. I don't look forward to it. I dread it, I have enough reasons to throw up, I don't want to take things that induce it.

Suzanne [suziesgoats] Wednesday, March 17, 2004 4:57 AMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

Good! How about trying this twice a day.

SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

i'm already at 1/2 dose every other day

Suzanne [suziesgoats] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:19 PMherbal remedies Subject: RE: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

Lauren

Have you tried less TN in apple juice? To work your way up?

SuziLauren Bastow <lbastow wrote:

that comes up too

SpareRibOfAz [spareRibOfAz] Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:58 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Relearning to eat

In a message dated 3/16/2004 6:46:13 PM US Mountain Standard Time, lbastow writes:

I use red meat for iron, especially when pregnant. I have tried iron supplements and the whole veggie thing but the soil is so leached of nutrients that I find the red meat does much better for the iron pick me up.

The total nutrition will do that same thing for you, just up the dose while pregnantFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of

NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington