Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I question which are the big guns, and which are peripheral at best for cancer. So I checked lemon grass very briefly, and found this rebuttal; What do you think? Will taking lemongrass tea or the essential oil of lemongrass stop cancer? Perhaps, but more research is needed before we know for sure. The Israeli research was done on isolated cancer cells in a laboratory, not on human patients with cancer. We can't be sure if citral is absorbed by the gut and delivered to the ovaries in sufficient quantities to kill cancer cells. Nor do we know whether citral's ability to induce apoptosis is limited to only cancer cells and not in healthy cells also. Even if citral does get to the cancer cells and causes them to die while leaving healthy cells to live, it still is necessary to test citral on animals and on human patients before we have solid evidence that citral works against cancer. Often a look at the folkloric and traditional uses of a herb gives scientists clues whether a herb will prove to have useful medicinal effects. If lemongrass tea really is effective against cancer then the chances are that the effect was noticed in the past and is documented in herbals. However, I did not find any mention of lemongrass and cancer in the ethnobotanical literature I checked. That doesn't mean that citral doesn't have an anticancer effect -- the Israeli research apparently shows that it does -- but it does give reason for being cautious about jumping to conclusions about lemongrass and cancer. For me Essiac tea, papaya leaf tea, etc seem to be peripheral. Oleander seems to be a big gun, as is the Budwig Protocol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Sounds like a pretty decent answer. I do not consider lemon grass as a big gun, the same as I do not consider Essiac. I consider Budwig a big gun with the asterisk that it is a good idea these days to have more than one big gun when you do Budwig. Oleander is my favorite stand-alone big gun, or bullet if you will, but my choice is to not use just one gun or bullet - but instead to find a few that work together, along with several smaller ones for good overall health to insure maximum cancer fighting success. One thing is for sure - it makes no sense at all to use oleander or any other " big gun " and still eat an unhealthy diet and live an unhealthy lifestyle. oleander soup , " Rhoda Mead " <hummingbird541 wrote: > > *I question which are the big guns, and which are peripheral at best for > cancer. So I checked lemon grass very briefly, and found this rebuttal; What > do you think? > * > Will taking lemongrass tea or the essential oil of lemongrass stop cancer? > Perhaps, but more research is needed before we know for sure. The Israeli > research was done on isolated cancer cells in a laboratory, not on human > patients with cancer. We can't be sure if citral is absorbed by the gut and > delivered to the ovaries in sufficient quantities to kill cancer cells. Nor > do we know whether citral's ability to induce apoptosis is limited to only > cancer cells and not in healthy cells also. Even if citral does get to the > cancer cells and causes them to die while leaving healthy cells to live, it > still is necessary to test citral on animals and on human patients before we > have solid evidence that citral works against cancer. > > Often a look at the folkloric and traditional uses of a herb gives > scientists clues whether a herb will prove to have useful medicinal effects. > If lemongrass tea really is effective against cancer then the chances are > that the effect was noticed in the past and is documented in herbals. > However, I did not find any mention of lemongrass and cancer in the > ethnobotanical literature I checked. That doesn't mean that citral doesn't > have an anticancer effect -- the Israeli research apparently shows that it > does -- but it does give reason for being cautious about jumping to > conclusions about lemongrass and cancer. > > *For me Essiac tea, papaya leaf tea, etc seem to be peripheral.* > *Oleander*seems to be a big gun, as is the Budwig Protocol. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 In a message dated 8/12/2008 9:42:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RoseOttoGroups writes: One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? EdithLooking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 In a message dated 8/12/2008 10:31:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RoseOttoGroups writes: No. Sheep sorrell is closer to spinach; lemongrass lookis more like grass or when cut, like scallions. OK...I know we have lots of sheep sorrell here in my neck of the woods but I'll have to check more into the lemon grass to see if it grows here also. Edith Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... The only place I know (very limited knowledge) Lemongrass is used much in cooking is Thailand. Their Medica Materica(s) would be the ones to consult regarding it's use against cancers. Many herbal remedies are effecitve in the folklore of a culture but the info isn't easily available outside that culture. Oops, second thought. And it may also be that the use within the culture--other diet factors, tribal genetics, growing conditions--have something to do with the effectiveness of that particular plant. Saralou Tony wrote: Sounds like a pretty decent answer. I do not consider lemon grass as a big gun, the same as I do not consider Essiac. I consider Budwig a big gun with the asterisk that it is a good idea these days to have more than one big gun when you do Budwig. ...................... > > Often a look at the folkloric and traditional uses of a herb gives > scientists clues whether a herb will prove to have useful medicinal effects. > If lemongrass tea really is effective against cancer then the chances are > that the effect was noticed in the past and is documented in herbals. > However, I did not find any mention of lemongrass and cancer in the > ethnobotanical literature I checked. That doesn't mean that citral doesn't > have an anticancer effect -- the Israeli research apparently shows that it > does -- but it does give reason for being cautious about jumping to > conclusions about lemongrass and cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I think the lemongrass is the true grass often used in Thai cuisine. Sheep sorrel is the weed that takes off when soil is short on calcium. It has a high oxalic acid content and is quite sharp to taste if "sweated" as a vegetable. It's used in Ojibway tea, a blood cleanser. Maracuja "ejohns9525" <ejohns9525oleander soup Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:46:05 AMRe: Re: lemon grass, anyone? In a message dated 8/12/2008 9:42:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RoseOttoGroups@ gmail.com writes: One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? Edith Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 No. Sheep sorrell is closer to spinach; lemongrass lookis more like grass or when cut, like scallions. lemon grass http://www.sallys-place.com/food/columns/gilbert/lemon_grass.htm ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymbopogon ://www.ageless.co.za/herb-lemon-grass.htm ://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Lemongrass ://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/med-aro/factsheets/lemongrass.html ://www.gardensablaze.com/HerbLemonGrass.htm ://www.mountainroseherbs.com/learn/lemongrass.php ://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-lemon-grass.htm sorrell /www.gourmetherbs.com.au/theherbs.htm ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex_acetosella ://www.survivaliq.com/survival/edible-and-medicinal-plants-sheep-sorrel.htm ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel :// www.thefreedictionary.com/sorrels ://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/s/sorcom64.html ejohns9525 wrote: In a message dated 8/12/2008 9:42:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, RoseOttoGroups writes: One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? Edith Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Nope. Lemon grass grows as a grass looking plant, more like a pampas grass in a tall clump. Sheep sorrel is a small short plant. Completely different plants, and looks. Samala, Renee ---- One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 More information. Lemongrass picture: http://www.junglephotos.com/amazon/ampeople/ethnobotany/lemongrass.shtml Sheep sorrel picture:http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/Canada/HealthInformation/Encyclopedias/SheepSorrel.htm -- -- One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Oh yes, very different! Lemon grass is native to India. Sheep Sorrel is native to Europe. Lemon grass looks like a yellow stalk of grass. Sheep Sorrel looks like spinach. Lemon grass tastes like lemon. Sheep sorrel tastes very bitter. Lemon grass contains citral acid which benefits digestion. Sheep sorrel contains a lot of vitamin C. Sheep sorrel may have anti-tumor properties and was in the original Essiac tea formula. Sheep sorrel also contains oxalic acid - this may be an issue for those w/ kidney problems. sun--- On Tue, 8/12/08, Gaiacita <gaiacita wrote: Gaiacita <gaiacitaRe: Re: lemon grass, anyone?oleander soup Received: Tuesday, August 12, 2008, 11:24 AM Nope. Lemon grass grows as a grass looking plant, more like a pampas grass in a tall clump. Sheep sorrel is a small short plant. Completely different plants, and looks. Samala, Renee -- -- One other thought on Lemongrass and other herbals as cancer remedies... Isn't Lemon grass also known as sheep sorrell? Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Canada Messenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Hi Rhoda, In the Philippines lemongrass and turmeric root are boiled together to aid in diabetes. Many people are doing this and swear it keeps blood sugar down. It must have its good points, just can't speak out for cancer. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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