Guest guest Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Maybe that is because my good friend and chiropractic doctor, Dr. Goebel is not a mainstream doctor. He also happens to be one of the moderators of this group. Ouch! oleander soup , " philzach " <phil wrote: > > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote: > > > > Cayenne is the most prescribed herbal vasodilator, and it is in more > herbal formulas than any other herb because if you open the vessels > up, more of any nutrient is delivered throughout the body. > > > > Cayenne is the most effective nutritional remedy for the heart and > cardiovascular tree. It rivals in magnitude any known drug, and most > of the time its effects are much faster. It heals arterial walls. It > will recanalize clogged arteries. > > > > Dr. Goebel > > ----------------------------- > > CAN'T LOCATE ANY GOOGLE REFERENCES TO DR. MICHAEL GOEBEL. I WONDER > WHY NOT? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Tony, Sorry for my lack of knowledge and my apologies to Dr. Goebel. (I'm still trying to figure out the web site.....). Phil ---------------------- - Tony oleander soup Friday, August 15, 2008 2:09 PM Dr. Goebel Maybe that is because my good friend and chiropractic doctor, Dr.Goebel is not a mainstream doctor.He also happens to be one of the moderators of this group.Ouch!Tonyoleander soup , "philzach" <phil wrote:>> oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote:> >> > Cayenne is the most prescribed herbal vasodilator, and it is in more> herbal formulas than any other herb because if you open the vessels> up, more of any nutrient is delivered throughout the body.> > > > Cayenne is the most effective nutritional remedy for the heart and> cardiovascular tree. It rivals in magnitude any known drug, and most> of the time its effects are much faster. It heals arterial walls. It> will recanalize clogged arteries.> > > > Dr. Goebel> > -------------------------> > CAN'T LOCATE ANY GOOGLE REFERENCES TO DR. MICHAEL GOEBEL. I WONDER> WHY NOT?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I understand - but your post did give me a good chuckle.Not to worry, we weed out the quacks and mainstream hardheads when need by - but our tolerance level is pretty high and we have almost never had to do so. However, there was this one know-it-all who was a "licensed and approved" naturopathic doctor who came here to preach to us and tried to put down other naturopaths here and told us that only state licensed naturopaths were real doctors that could be trusted.What they really are in many cases are doctors who have sold out to mainstream medicine and only prescribe alternative treatments as complimentary ones to drugs and chemo and the like. I looked up the guy's website and found that he always prescribed mainstream treatments first and used alternative and and natural healing supplements and therapies only as complimentary treatments.We ultimately had to give the guy a good tar and feathering and send him on his way.Now that so many people are seeing how mainstream medicine cures nothing, but merely manages symptoms with drugs that lead to more illness and more drugs, one of the ways mainstream medicine is fighting safer and more effective competition is to try to incorporate alternative medicine into their ranks. What that really means is giving lip service to natural and alternative treatments while guiding the patients to mainstream medicine first and restricting what alternative therapies are allowed as complimentary treatments.I think a good look at what is happening can be found in a memo currently being circulated by the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine (CCNM) regarding the therapies allowed at its Robert Schad Naturopathic Clinic, described as "Canada's largest naturopathic teaching clinic." According to the memo, "In May 2008, the CCNM academic and clinic leadership decided to limit the therapies used in the RSNC (and the community clinics) to the 'core' modalities taught in the academic curriculum." From now on, according to the memo, there will be "permitted" and "non-permitted" therapies. Among the "non-permitted" ones "in CCNM Teaching Clinics" are Bach Flower Remedies, Multi-homeopathic products, Craniosacral Therapy, Osteopathic Therapy, Reiki, Biofeedback, Hypnotherapy, and Ayurvedic Medicine.Absurd!Tonyoleander soup , "Phillip Zachary" <phil wrote:>> > Tony, > > Sorry for my lack of knowledge and my apologies to Dr. Goebel. (I'm still trying to figure out the web site.....).> > Phil> ----------------------> > - > Tony > oleander soup > Friday, August 15, 2008 2:09 PM> Dr. Goebel> > > Maybe that is because my good friend and chiropractic doctor, Dr.> Goebel is not a mainstream doctor.> > He also happens to be one of the moderators of this group.> > Ouch!> > Tony> > oleander soup , "philzach" phil@ wrote:> >> > oleander soup , Michael Goebel <goebelchx@> wrote:> > >> > > Cayenne is the most prescribed herbal vasodilator, and it is in more> > herbal formulas than any other herb because if you open the vessels> > up, more of any nutrient is delivered throughout the body.> > > > > > Cayenne is the most effective nutritional remedy for the heart and> > cardiovascular tree. It rivals in magnitude any known drug, and most> > of the time its effects are much faster. It heals arterial walls. It> > will recanalize clogged arteries.> > > > > > Dr. Goebel> > > > -------------------------> > > > CAN'T LOCATE ANY GOOGLE REFERENCES TO DR. MICHAEL GOEBEL. I WONDER> > WHY NOT?> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 HI Can you direct me to a copy of this memo? When I get new business cards made I am going to put “Tradiditonal Naturopath” because I don’t want to be confused with those coming out of the “accepted” colleges which are so conventional minded it is scary. I have a feeling this has something to do with CODEX. <sigh> Just like the definitions of the terms “all-natural” and “organic” are being smudged so is the term naturopathy. Thanks. Be Well Loretta I think a good look at what is happening can be found in a memo currently being circulated by the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine (CCNM) regarding the therapies allowed at its Robert Schad Naturopathic Clinic, described as " Canada's largest naturopathic teaching clinic. " According to the memo, " In May 2008, the CCNM academic and clinic leadership decided to limit the therapies used in the RSNC (and the community clinics) to the 'core' modalities taught in the academic curriculum. " From now on, according to the memo, there will be " permitted " and " non-permitted " therapies. Among the " non-permitted " ones " in CCNM Teaching Clinics " are Bach Flower Remedies, Multi-homeopathic products, Craniosacral Therapy, Osteopathic Therapy, Reiki, Biofeedback, Hypnotherapy, and Ayurvedic Medicine. Absurd! Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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