Urine Therapy

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Doug,

>

> I once had a patient who was a World War II veteran. He told me

this long story about being wounded in the Philipines and using his

urine to disinfect the wound. Unfortunately the punch line was that

the wound got totally infected and caused him troubles ever since.

 

This is really hilarious, except of course

for the infection and subsequent troubles.

 

It made me think. How do we come to

differentiate the valuable from the

valueless? I'm thinking not only with

respect to what seems like an offbeat

use of human urine as medicine but also

with respect to " normal " accepted

practices.

 

A fellow in my Daoist Sexuality workshop

last weekend in San Diego raised this

question, and I've been thinking about

it ever since. I wonder how widely

the rationale for traditional

Chinese medical interventions is

understood.

 

Were you able to help your patient?

 

Ken

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On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 04:13 PM, Teresa Hall wrote:

 

> Hi group,

>

> Does anyone know if this type of therapy was ever used in TCM? I know

> there

> were and probably still are Asian doctors who have used urine

> diagnostically

> by tasting it. However, I am more interested in if it was prescribed

> for

> therapeutic use?!

 

Sure, human urine (Ren Zhong Bai) appears in many herb books.

 

One of my herb teachers recalls as a young boy, there was a guy on his

block who would encourage young boys to urinate into one of his

containers. Parents were silently skeptical, but apparently nobody got

in trouble, boys or the " herbalist " .

 

I'm told that the urine of pre-pubescent boys is the best,

therapeutically.

 

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Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

-Adlai Stevenson

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There was a rather fully elaborated discussion of this about six months ago. Check the archive. Urinary sediment is available from Blue Light herbals, so somebody must be using it. I have a die da teacher who recommends it highly as a base for medicinal rubs on injuries as a veritable panacea.

 

Par

 

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Teresa Hall

Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:13 PM

Urine Therapy

Hi group,Does anyone know if this type of therapy was ever used in TCM? I know therewere and probably still are Asian doctors who have used urine diagnosticallyby tasting it. However, I am more interested in if it was prescribed fortherapeutic use?!Thanks,TeresaChinese Herbal Medicine, a voluntary organization of licensed healthcare practitioners, matriculated students and postgraduate academics specializing in Chinese Herbal Medicine, provides a variety of professional services, including board approved online continuing education.

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MMMMMM Yes interesting. It got me wondering, on this site it said

that urine only smells if you have an unclean system. What is it

that asparagus does to the system to make the smelly urine. Is it a

kidney flusher or something of the like?

Any ideas?

 

Kate

herbal remedies , sandyloopfarm wrote:

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> In a message dated 4/25/2006 6:12:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> herbal remedies writes:

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> http://www.koyfmancenter.com/Urine.htm

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> Barb, that's a pretty interesting site. If you have an open mind!

Thank you.

> Bob

>

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Not something to worry about. Check this site. Barb

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/43/1671_51089

Excerpt:

Eau D'Asparagus

 

I love asparagus, but I notice it makes my urine smell funny. What's going on?

By Elizabeth Somer, MA,RD

Aug. 14, 2000 -- You may have heard the tall tale that "asparagus urine" is linked to higher intelligence. In fact, it's the result of a simple chemical reaction. Asparagus contains a sulfur compound called mercaptan. (It's also found in rotten eggs, onions, garlic, and in the secretions of skunks.) When your digestive tract breaks down this substance, by-products are released that cause the funny scent. The process is so quick that your urine can develop the distinctive smell within 15 to 30 minutes of eating asparagus.

 

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kate_jcbs

herbal remedies

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:41 PM

Herbal Remedies - Re: Urine Therapy

MMMMMM Yes interesting. It got me wondering, on this site it said that urine only smells if you have an unclean system. What is it that asparagus does to the system to make the smelly urine. Is it a kidney flusher or something of the like?Any ideas?Kateherbal remedies , sandyloopfarm wrote:>> > In a message dated 4/25/2006 6:12:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > herbal remedies writes:> > http://www.koyfmancenter.com/Urine.htm> > > Barb, that's a pretty interesting site. If you have an open mind! Thank you. > Bob>

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I experimented with urine therapy about 10 years ago. I used two different methods:1) material doses - isopathy;2)homeopathic/isopathic prepared nosode. I used it long enough to determine I was not being benefitted(about a month). There are only rare cases where I would do it again, like having absolutely no other remedies and the case was an emergency. PA

Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

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http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Urine_Therapy.htm

 

Okay folks, we need a little humor on this topic of urine therapy. Click into this link, very informative and funny picture to boot. Have to love it, I sure did. Anyway, because of our learned taboos we are closing our minds but try as I may I have a hard time wrapping my head around this topic, so I decided to do some research on the topic. I think this has to be an individual choice, but I know many "old" timers who swear by this therapy for ear infections and poison oak. Go figure. My mom used kerosene on poison oak/ivy and some sort of mud that came from a clean source if that is possible, but it worked. We each have to make choices when trying therapy as controversial as this one, but if it helped that baby girl it can't be all bad folks. Also, putting into new leather shoes now wouldn't the shoes smell like old fermented urine after awhile? I always buy shoes a little on the large size, I murdered my feet while in corporate America. High heels with pointie toes are not natural and now my feet love me because in the summer I go barefoot a lot, or wear sandals. Much love.

 

Micki

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Actually in some countries, urine is used in the tanning process of leathers.

 

Thursday, September 14, 2006, 12:43:41 PM, you wrote:

 

 

 

 

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http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Urine_Therapy.htm

 

Okay folks, we need a little humor on this topic of urine therapy. Click into this link, very informative and funny picture to boot. Have to love it, I sure did. Anyway, because of our learned taboos we are closing our minds but try as I may I have a hard time wrapping my head around this topic, so I decided to do some research on the topic. I think this has to be an individual choice, but I know many "old" timers who swear by this therapy for ear infections and poison oak. Go figure. My mom used kerosene on poison oak/ivy and some sort of mud that came from a clean source if that is possible, but it worked. We each have to make choices when trying therapy as controversial as this one, but if it helped that baby girl it can't be all bad folks. Also, putting into new leather shoes now wouldn't the shoes smell like old fermented urine after awhile? I always buy shoes a little on the large size, I murdered my feet while in corporate America. High heels with pointie toes are not natural and now my feet love me because in the summer I go barefoot a lot, or wear sandals. Much love.

 

Micki

 

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Actually this has been around for a very long time. Thanks for the interesting

articles to

read.

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Another old time remedy w/ urine is to cure cataracts I think DONT

TRY THIS! I dont know for sure but it was in a book I read when I

first started getting into all natural stuff about 8 yrs ago. I was

like NO WAY!!!!.... Just food for thought!! ~~Tonia

 

 

 

herbal remedies , " Micki " <micki_ wrote:

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http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psychology/health_psychology/Urine_Ther

apy.htm

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> Okay folks, we need a little humor on this topic of urine

therapy. Click into this link, very informative and funny picture

to boot. Have to love it, I sure did. Anyway, because of our

learned taboos we are closing our minds but try as I may I have a

hard time wrapping my head around this topic, so I decided to do

some research on the topic. I think this has to be an individual

choice, but I know many " old " timers who swear by this therapy for

ear infections and poison oak. Go figure. My mom used kerosene on

poison oak/ivy and some sort of mud that came from a clean source if

that is possible, but it worked. We each have to make choices when

trying therapy as controversial as this one, but if it helped that

baby girl it can't be all bad folks. Also, putting into new leather

shoes now wouldn't the shoes smell like old fermented urine after

awhile? I always buy shoes a little on the large size, I murdered

my feet while in corporate America. High heels with pointie toes

are not natural and now my feet love me because in the summer I go

barefoot a lot, or wear sandals. Much love.

>

> Micki

>

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Here's something to add to the discussion of urine therapy (uropathy):

 

" Healing with Urine Therapy

 

Urine is not a dirty and toxic substance rejected by the body. Urine

is a by-product of blood filtration, not waste filtration. Medically

it is referred to as " plasma ultrafiltrate " . It is a purified

derivative of the blood itself, made by the kidneys--whose principal

function is not excretion but regulation of all the elements and their

concentrations in the blood. Urine can be compared to leftovers from a

meal, and this metaphor may help us understand why our bodies excrete

elements that are valuable to our health and well-being.

 

Nutrient-filled blood passes through the liver where toxins are

removed to be excreted as solid waste. Eventually, this purified

" clean " blood undergoes a filtering process in the kidneys, where

excess water, salts, vitamins, minerals, enzymes, antibodies, urea,

uric acid and other elements not usable at that time by the body are

collected in the form of a purified, sterile, watery solution that is

urine. The function of the kidneys is to keep the various elements in

the blood balanced. The important elements in the blood are not

filtered out because they are toxic and harmful to the body, but

simply because the body does not need a particular concentration of an

element at that specific point in time. It is this very regulating

process of the kidneys that allows us to eat and drink more than our

bodies need at any one time.

 

Urine is considered to be an invaluable source of nourishment and

healing that perhaps has been too controversial or not financially

rewarding enough for it to be talked about and encouraged as a potent

medicine. One's own urine, a living food, contains elements that are

specific to one's body alone. The body is constantly producing a huge

variety of antibodies, hormones, enzymes and other natural chemicals

to regulate and control its functions and combat imbalances that one

may not be aware of. --

 

Clinical studies have proved that the thousands of critical body

chemicals and nutrients that end up in urine reflect the individual

body's functions. When re-utilised, these chemicals and nutrients act

as natural vaccines, antibacterial, antiviral and anticarcinogenic

agents as well as hormone balancers and allergy relievers. The

information that urine contains therefore cannot be duplicated or

derived from any other source. Just as nature produces no two people

who are exactly the same, there are no two urine samples in the world

that contain exactly the same components. more

 

" Don't take this therapy lightly. Multiple sclerosis, colitis, lupus,

rheumatoid arthritis, cancer, hepatitis, hyperactivity, pancreatic

insufficiency, psoriasis, eczema, diabetes, herpes, mononucleosis,

adrenal failure, allergies and so many other ailments have been

relieved through use of this therapy. After you overcome your initial

gag response (I know I had one), you will realize that something big

is going on, and if you are searching for health, this is an area to

investigate. There are numerous reports and double blind studies which

go back to the turn of the century supporting the efficacy of using

urine for health. " Biomedx.com

 

Urine therapy can be a very effective healing modality. Sometimes when

all else fails, urine therapy will turn a person around. "

 

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AS I said earlier I've never tried uropathy. But I don't think I can

rule it out. Just as I can't rule out ingesting a poisonous plant....lol.

 

Phil