Guest guest Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Sorry to jump in here, but that is not at all what Marc said or meant. What he is talking about is an underlying physical imbalance that enable the cancer to defeat the immune system and gain a foothold to begin with. That could be the exposure to a toxin, virus, bacteria, etc., that created an irritation and/or inflammation that, in combination with a diet and lifestyle that resulted in a less than optimum immune system and liver, led to cellular mutation to cancer which ultimately defeated the immune system and gained a foothold in the body. Certainly stress and unresolved conflicts can help lead to less than optimum health and contribute to cancer, as well as make recovery more difficult, but I do not believe that in and of themselves they actually cause cancer. oleander soup , ~ Debbie ~ <d3andsteve wrote: > > So, you feel that the underlying cause of cancer/disease can be related to a 'conflict' that we may have had in our life prior to it coming on and if we resolve that 'conflict', then we would be well on our way to the healing we need? How do we go about resolving those 'conflicts?' > ~Debbie > > > > > > Marc Swanepoel - PhD <marcswan > oleander soup > Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:15:30 PM > Re: Six bottles of pills --- No results yet? > > > The person Duke is referring to ordered one bottle of liquid from me which arrived at her address on July 5. She ordered another 5 bottles from me towards the end of July which probably arrived at her address by August 5. This means she used 1 bottle during July and, if she has used up the other 5 bottles sent to her, then she has been using roughly 30ml per day for the remainder of the period of slightly more than 2 months. If, as Duke reports, she has been very ill for a long time, and if her cancer was very advanced to begin with, then 2 - 3 months will not produce miracles. At best it will initially slow down the progression of the tumors and then, provided she does a few other important things like proper diet, etc, it should gradually get the cancer under control. One should always remember that cancer is a SYMPTOM of an underlying condition in the body, mostly caused by lifestyle situations like diet an stress. There are no miracle cures that > will work unless one addresses the underlying problem that caused the cancer symptom in the first place. Some patients with relatively advanced cancers have gone into complete remission with NO sign of cancer after using the S/OPC for a number of months ONLY to have it return after 2 or more years (after stopping to take the S/OPC) because they did not address the underlying cause. > > The moral of this is that one has to treat the cancer holistically by looking at all the circumstances that could have led to it in the first place and which may STILL be preventing any progress towards health.. One's mental attitude in all this is extremely important. > > It will also be instructive to know if the tumors have grown in size or number, were they there before, have the growth slowed down, did she have any chemo treatment before using other modalities. And, most importantly, is she not overloading her system wit too many different supplements that may eventually cancel each other's effectiveness. > > Marc Swanepoel > > - > Duke Stone > oleander group ; Duke Stone > Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:04 PM > Six bottles of pills --- No results yet? > > This is a email to my personal address from a person that I had put in contact with Marc. She does not have the abblilithy to interact with the grouup. > > She is very ill and has been for along time. We had met last yesr at a clinic in Acuna Maexio opperated by Dr. Charles Rogers . Of the group of thirty of so there are only 4 of us let We are all in a state of decline. > > See her message here. > Duke, > I finally went to the doctor's and had a chest x-ray, it showed tumors in both lungs. I can hardly believe it because I have gone thru 6 bottles of oleander since July. But, this is what is going on. The x-ray's show pneumonia and I have been taking CS, I have a fever, can't breathe well and have pain from tumors and I am wheezing. I also have been using MMS 3x's/day 7drops internally and I did the OCC. Oh, I have sent for that herb Jim Humble mentions from the lady in Texas. Got any other suggestions? Thanks for all your input, Janet > > Duke Stone ----- Dallas, Texas > info (AT) DukeStone (DOT) Biz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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