Yes, take the ormus debate offline please

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Yes, please do take it offlist. This is not the " ormus " debate forum

- no matter how it may appear lately. LOL.

 

Thanks

 

 

oleander soup , " Somewhere in time. "

<osiris20672002 wrote:

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> Gerald my replies are beside the ++++++. For some reason my replies

> don't make it on the group very fast so It may take a while for you to

> get this email. Would you care to take this conversation off list as

> some may not want to explore the places we could go with this

> wonderful conversation?

> Alex

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> > If people say that it cannot be assayed and is a special substance

> > that avoids detection lets say, but has miraculous powers such as

> > has been said for Ormus, feeding the light body, levitational

> > powers, ascension, cancer healing, growth of severed body parts,

> > growth of severed teeth, regeneration in general, restructuring of

> > DNA so that 2012 comes all those taking Ormus shall be Immortal,

>

> ++++ Oh heck I don't want to be immortal. Just happy.

> if

> > some of these claims could be put to the test by grabbing a few

> > house mice or rats or chickens as the old Alchemists used to do and

> > TEST these claims, see if after some time they levitate or can

> > extend the lives of these mice. Actually there was one test done on

> > mice where the mice were given a kind of Ormus apparently and then

> > the mice were subjected to a very cruel experiment were they were

> > drowned but they were able to stay afloat longer than non treated

> > mice apparently I think it was seacrop or some similar company not

> > sure the name.

>

> ++++ Sounds a lot like the old Witchcraft test. Float you are a witch

> and you die. Sink and you are innocent yet you still die. What is the

> point either way?

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> > If people say that intent is needed to gain spiritual benefits from

> > these products and mice or rodents or chickens don't have the same

> > evolutionary level then why don't they get humans who have taking

> > Ormus for years to show with their intent the ascension,

> > levitational qualities or prove how they have been healed of cancer

> > or grown new teeth etc etc, you see what I mean. If we agree that

> > there could be something in Ormus that hasn't been discovered yet

> > then I agree that could be right, but were is even the proof that it

> has done miraculous things?

>

> ++++ All I can say is that I feel great taking what I am taking. I

> feel more alive than I have in years. Not that the Ormus can take all

> the credit. I work on my mental state daily. I work on my energy

> daily. I meditate. I take care of what needs to be taken care of. I

> don't just give my cares to some diety and hope that they sort it out

> the way I want. I intend my day. I am co creator with my life. I enjoy

> being me and that is a long dang time coming! ( I have been very slow

> getting to where I am.)

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>

> The tests to show that a persons

> > arthritis has been cured by this mysterious substance? for example.

> >

> > I made Ormus myself for a time and so was very interested as many

> > have become in this mysterious substance but really it's just Mickey

> > Mouse Alchemy at best. The point is to Isolate Gold or some platinum

> > metals in their monatomic form from seabed sediments by using sodium

> > hydroxide and cleaning the resulting precipitate which is called the

> > wet method, which many now do in their own kitchens, then you have

> > the dry method and then others but basically the idea is the same.

> > Alchemy is a different thing,

>

> ++++ I will leave it at alchemy can by many things. I take a negative

> thought and transform it into a pretty one. That is considered alchemy

> in my book. Taking something and making it better. I love having fun

> with energy, stones, herbs, and blessing lots of things. Take sugar

> for example. Muscle test yourself holding some sugar. You will prob go

> weak unless you are starving! Take that same sugar and bless it.

> Blessing meaning harmonize it with your energy system. Now test it?

> What were your results?

Ormus is like a flea on the back of

> > the Alchemical Wolf, a parasite that has no life of it's own.

> >

> > The cool brain effects that some comment on and the headband effect

> > and left side of brain tightening etc, I felt all these but later

> > found out it was due to Arsenic or lead poisoning due to methods of

> > producing Ormus, so people should be careful when making it

> > themselves. I had frying effects of my brain as well, lots of

> > strange feelings. Initially I thought it was great though.

>

> ++++ Wow that is a mess. I have no chemistry skills and would never

> try making it myself. I have made my own homeopathics.

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> >

> > Lastly I am interested in Alchemy and if I had an Elixir that had

> > superb qualities I'd test it on Chickens and mice and once they

> > extended their normal lifespans then I would win the Methuselah

> > prize and could help humanity or at least show my findings and

> > challenge people to test my claims or at least sell my Elxir and

> > show honest studies that others could reproduce for themselves, if

> > it only worked on Humans then I would give it all my friends and

> > family for free and take notes on their health before and after, it

> > wouldn't cost millions of dollars to do this. In ten years this has

> > not been done to my knowledge, one wonder why?

> >

> > Maybe one day I can offer one such Elixir, who knows.

>

> ++++ I wish you the best of luck finding it. I hope that it is soon as

> others may well benefit from your hard work.

>

> Alex

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