for US list members universal smallpox vaccination...

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> (2)(A). ‘‘(2) DECLARATION BY SECRETARY CONCERNING

COUNTERMEASURE AGAINST

> SMALLPOX.†" ‘‘(A) AUTHORITY TO ISSUE DECLARATION.†" ‘‘(i)

IN GENERAL.†" The

> Secretary may issue a declaration, pursuant to this paragraph,

concluding

> that an actual or potential bioterrorist incident or other actual

or

> potential public health emergency makes advisable the

administration of a

> covered countermeasure to a category or categories of individuals.

 

This is the paragraph. There are no exceptions listed for religious

beliefs, health problems, etc. The Secretary can decide when a

threat exists and which group or groups are threatened and will be

vaccinated. In the next paragraph, the Secretary gets to decide how

long the threat lasts.

 

In another part of this very long bill, there is information about

quarantine. If a person refuses to take the vaccination, he or she

can be placed in quarantine. It is not spelled out what rights and

freedoms, if any, the person will have while in quarantine.

 

How many remember the Swine Flu vaccinations in the 1970s and the

problems?

 

This is a very bad piece of legislation which is filled with goodies

for all types of moneyed special interests. It tramples on the Bill

of Rights. It will not make us any safer. We not only will have to

fear foreign terrorists but our own government. The sad thing is

that there were enough security measures in place to prevent 9-11.

Please do some research on the Internet about all the countries that

warned the U.S. prior to 9-11. Also on the FBI agents who tried to

warn higher-ups but were ignored or instructed to forget it. The

local FBI office in Minnesota is a prime example. It wanted to seize

the computer of one of the terrorists because of various red flags.

Attorney General Ashcroft denied the office permission to do this.

Also check out the info about high ranking members of the CIA making

money off 9-11. We have a government that wants to ignore red flags

pertaining to real terrorists while being given the right to trample

on the rights and freedoms of law-abiding citizens.

 

I know this information is going to be very difficult for some people

to face. But at least do a little digging and consider it. If you

think that no one in our government could possibly be this cynical,

conscienceless, or devious, please take a look at something called I

believe Operation Northwoods in the 1960s. Members of the U.S

government were proposing (among other things) that Americans be

killed and the murders blamed on Cuba as an excuse for declaring war

on Cuba and invading that country. Fortunately for both Americans

and Cubans, this one was never carried out. But the fact that it was

even considered tells us that not everyone in government has a

conscience, basic humanity, or balance.

 

Victoria

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/18/02 7:46:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

kitcurtin writes:

 

> Would you please include the link for this cut and paste?

>

 

<A HREF= " http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/ " >Homeland Security Actions</A>

 

This site should answer all your questions.

 

Stan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

The below is from the CDC they are the ones who are in charge of the program.

I put in bold the % that is expected not to get vaccinated.

This is just for your information.

 

<A HREF= " http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/smallpox/response-plan/index.asp " >CDC

Smallpox Response Plan & Guidelines</A>

 

 

Large-Scale Vaccination Clinic Organization and Personnel Estimates

 

The following section describes a model of a vaccination program that

addresses the different activities needed for the administration of IND

smallpox vaccine as well as an example of personnel estimates for clinic

staffing. The output goal of this example clinic model would be the

administration of vaccine to 1 million persons over 10 days. The model could

be expanded or contracted, as needed, to address changes in vaccination

administration goals for different population areas. The example staffing

estimates were arrived at by:

 

1) review of previous large-scale-clinic models and publications,

 

2) considerations of requirements for administering an IND vaccine, and

 

3) computer modeling for clinic flow and output estimates with different

example staff numbers. Parameters of low and high completion times for

specific activities within the clinic were estimated within the model. The

time requirement for these activities may differ depending upon the overall

demands placed on the vaccine clinic delivery system and could require

adjustment of staffing estimates. State and local planners should evaluate

these activity time estimates and consider what staffing or flow adaptations

may be needed to accommodate increases or decreases in activity time

requirements. The computer modeling of the example clinic to determine

staffing needs utilized the following parameters:

 

97% of people presenting to clinic will be processed through the normal

clinic flow

 

1% will have some illness that will require evaluation before processing

through clinic

 

2% will be identified as a contact or possible contact to smallpox and will

be processed through the separate " Contact Evaluation " unit

 

20% of people coming through the clinic will require medical counseling in

addition to the orientation video

 

Medical counseling/questions will require 5 to 15 minutes (some individuals

will require >15 minutes and others will require <5 minutes)

 

Physician would be available to handle more difficult medical screening to

keep clinic flowing

 

50% of persons getting additional medical counseling (i.e., the 20% above)

will be vaccinated, and 50% will defer vaccination because of

contraindications or other reasons

 

Distributing IND packets and providing initial instructions would take

between 30 seconds and 2 minutes

 

Video orientations will be done approximately every 30 minutes in 5

orientation rooms that hold 75 people per room

 

It will take 2 to 3 minutes for individuals to fill out the medical history

screening forms

 

Vaccination and completing vaccination cards would require between 0.5 and 2

minutes

 

 

 

Stan

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

 

 

At 12:47 AM 11/19/02 -0500, you wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/18/02 7:46:10 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> kitcurtin writes:

>

> > Would you please include the link for this cut and paste?

> >

>

> <A

> HREF= " <http://www.whitehouse.gov/homeland/>http://www.whitehouse.gov/homel

> and/ " >Homeland Security Actions</A>

>

> This site should answer all your questions.

>

> Stan

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> The below is from the CDC they are the ones who are in charge of

the program.

> I put in bold the % that is expected not to get vaccinated.

administration of IND

 

Stan, unfortunately, the Homeland Security Bill gives the final say

to the Secretary. He can override the best plans of the CDC. He and

he alone has the power and the ultimate say.

 

The vaccination provisisons of the Homeland Security Bill can be

rewritten so it spells out exceptions and gives Americans broad

choice in refusing the vaccinations. It won't be enough just to say

that people can be exempted based on a doctor's sayso. If I had

listened to what doctors say, been in a position where I had to do

what they say, I probably would be dead by now. Any bill which does

not grant choice to Americans - regardless of what a member of the

health establishment says is safe - is a bill that is going to result

in a lot of unncessary pain, suffering, and death.

 

Furthermore, the bill needs to be rewritten to spell out exactly what

rights and freedoms people in quarantine will have and how quarantine

will be handled. For example, if someone refuses the shots based on

health problems, it's not going to be very humane to hold the person

along with many others in a football stadium. This probably will

make the person sicker.

 

The giveaway to Eli Lilly needs to be dropped entirely. This was

orginally a 32 page bill, and by the time all the pork was put in,

the bill now runs to about 500 pages. These are provisions that have

nothing to do with defending the nation against terrorists or

safeguarding the nation's health. They are pork, pure and simple.

And the most selfish kind of pork. The kind that beenfits a few

campaign contributors at the expense of the many and the country as a

whole.

 

Victoria