Guest guest Posted July 31, 2003 Report Share Posted July 31, 2003 What do you think of this precaution which I recently read on a site about acupuncture treatment for IBS " You have diabetes. Acupuncture should be used on your limbs only with extreme caution, as even small skin punctures in a person with diabetic neuropathy can result in severe infections. If you have any concerns in this area consult your physician. I have never heard of this precaution for diabetics,can acupuncture cause infection in diabetics? reply all soon Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 In a message dated 4/20/2004 4:58:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace I once knew someone who did the Master Cleanse (lemonade diet) and no longer needed the meds... I haven't had any personal contact with a diabetic and herbs... I am sure though that doing the cleanse and eating proper would get them off the meds and do the trick! Anyone else??? God Bless, Jamie in Az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I cant say i was actually " Cured " , but.... When the endocrinologist tested my blood levels last February, my levels were all elevated and he warned me to A. Excersice and B. change the diet. the first thing i did was change out to Agave nectar for sweetening coffee or tea, which now i just take my tea plain. Second i started supplementing with Gemnema Sylvestre. I tested in December just prior to cleansing and my glycerides had dropped to withing normal levels. I have not had a chance (or the cash) to go get retested (since i no longer have or pay for health insurance). I still consider this a win though for herbal/natural healing! Sylvia herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > Does anyone know of a diabetic who was " cured " with herbs? > > Candace > > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. > - > SpareRibOfAz@a... > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME > > > In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: > As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. > > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless, > Jamie in Az > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 i dont, but i do know my mother has not had any problems with her diabetes and is basically in what id consider " remission " and she did it through change of diet at the time..several years later she's able to eat a lot more of what she didnt for a long time and still has no problems.. Loren... herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > Does anyone know of a diabetic who was " cured " with herbs? > > Candace > > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 I will guess you are T2. And I would agree that natural ways can be extremely helpful in diabetic control, no matter what Type you are.Sylvia <h10feet wrote: I cant say i was actually "Cured", but....When the endocrinologist tested my blood levels last February, my levels were all elevated and he warned me to A. Excersice and B. change the diet.the first thing i did was change out to Agave nectar for sweetening coffee or tea, which now i just take my tea plain.Second i started supplementing with Gemnema Sylvestre.I tested in December just prior to cleansing and my glycerides had dropped to withing normal levels. I have not had a chance (or the cash) to go get retested (since i no longer have or pay for health insurance). I still consider this a win though for herbal/natural healing!Sylviaherbal remedies , "Candace Podratz" <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote:> Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs?> > Candace> > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes.> - > SpareRibOfAz@a... > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM> Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME> > > In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes:> As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's.> > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless,> Jamie in Az> > ...they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa. 40:31 Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 a dear friend of mine with diabetis became very ill and hospitalized abt 18 mo ago, and nearly died. she was very much overweight, but what with the illness draining her, and the hospital putting her on strict diet after she went off the I V's she lost a lot of weight, her blood sugar went back to normal and she began to get her strength back. she was declared diabetis free from what i understood, by the time she completed her rehab.. but... she wasn't home 6 months untill she got right back as she ate eveything just like before.. she is, a yr and a half later, back in hospital with broken hip and pelvis as she is so over weight again that her weak bones couldn't hold her .. she is totally helpless now and will be for at least 6 weeks unless she makes a drastic change in her eating. i am so sad for her. they served her spinach in the hosptal and she wouldn't eat it. her cabinets are full of just junk foods. i could cry.. she is eating herself to death. sadly, love... granny lee - LORENNNNNN : Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics i dont, but i do know my mother has not had any problems with her diabetes and is basically in what id consider "remission" and she did it through change of diet at the time..several years later she's able to eat a lot more of what she didnt for a long time and still has no problems..Loren...herbal remedies , "Candace Podratz" <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote:> Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs?> > Candace> > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Yes, I do, several. All Type 2s, and all remain "cured" until they resume a hedonistic lifestyle, wherein the symptoms return. I have not been exposed to someone who is "cured" and then resumes, then "cured," ad infinitum.Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington ...they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint. Isa. 40:31 Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 Hi Candace, Honestly I don't know anything about diabetes really, but if it were my SIL, I would also recommend the cleanse. I would also have her get the appropriate blood tests (or whatever is the right measurement) before the cleanse as well as after so improvement can be measured. It may very well take multiple cleanses to get her system and organs cleaned up and working right again, but I believe that with each cleanse there will be measurable improvement. Doc's tape mentions diabetes specifically, and the organ involved in all that. Can you get her to listen to the tape? Anyway, that's just my opinion on this. Hope it helps... :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:39 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 In a message dated 4/21/2004 4:11:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: Hey, there's an idea! I'm going to her house tomorrow. My tape player broke so I've been itchin to hear Doc's tape but can't. I could bring it to her house! Maybe I could do the cleanse with her. ; ) Candace Excellent Candace! Sometimes having a friend to go through things with makes it worth the extra effort! God Bless, Jamie in Az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 : ( Suppose it's the same as watching some one drink themselves to death. It just doesn't make sense to those watching. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - leo herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics a dear friend of mine with diabetis became very ill and hospitalized abt 18 mo ago, and nearly died. she was very much overweight, but what with the illness draining her, and the hospital putting her on strict diet after she went off the I V's she lost a lot of weight, her blood sugar went back to normal and she began to get her strength back. she was declared diabetis free from what i understood, by the time she completed her rehab.. but... she wasn't home 6 months untill she got right back as she ate eveything just like before.. she is, a yr and a half later, back in hospital with broken hip and pelvis as she is so over weight again that her weak bones couldn't hold her .. she is totally helpless now and will be for at least 6 weeks unless she makes a drastic change in her eating. i am so sad for her. they served her spinach in the hosptal and she wouldn't eat it. her cabinets are full of just junk foods. i could cry.. she is eating herself to death. sadly, love... granny lee - LORENNNNNN : Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics i dont, but i do know my mother has not had any problems with her diabetes and is basically in what id consider "remission" and she did it through change of diet at the time..several years later she's able to eat a lot more of what she didnt for a long time and still has no problems..Loren...herbal remedies , "Candace Podratz" <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote:> Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs?> > Candace> > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes.Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Hey, there's an idea! I'm going to her house tomorrow. My tape player broke so I've been itchin to hear Doc's tape but can't. I could bring it to her house! Maybe I could do the cleanse with her. ; ) Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - Kelli Bever herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:35 PM RE: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Hi Candace, Honestly I don't know anything about diabetes really, but if it were my SIL, I would also recommend the cleanse. I would also have her get the appropriate blood tests (or whatever is the right measurement) before the cleanse as well as after so improvement can be measured. It may very well take multiple cleanses to get her system and organs cleaned up and working right again, but I believe that with each cleanse there will be measurable improvement. Doc's tape mentions diabetes specifically, and the organ involved in all that. Can you get her to listen to the tape? Anyway, that's just my opinion on this. Hope it helps... :)Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:39 AMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Dear Candace, Diabetes is cause by sugar intake that is overtaxing that organ and then killing it off. Either momma ate tons of sugars or she let her daughter eat way too much sugar during those 18 months. Sugars are in Mayonnaise, the salt that has the umbrella lady on it has sugar in it, there are so many things with sugar in it it's really a joke that its called food. But that's what causes diabetes. Source reference: "Sugar Blues" By William Duffy. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Oh boy does her mom eat sugar! You'd think she'd die without it. And she's not the one diabetic. How ironic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:18 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Dear Candace, Diabetes is cause by sugar intake that is overtaxing that organ and then killing it off. Either momma ate tons of sugars or she let her daughter eat way too much sugar during those 18 months. Sugars are in Mayonnaise, the salt that has the umbrella lady on it has sugar in it, there are so many things with sugar in it it's really a joke that its called food. But that's what causes diabetes. Source reference: "Sugar Blues" By William Duffy. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. 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Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Good point Ann. There is no total cure that will enable you to go back to being a sugar junky. By the way have you read that book "Sugar Blues"? It's about a Diabetic who fights it out and does a ton of research on where it comes from. Try it out. It's a Best Seller and has been for years. I don't think anyone here feels they are all knowing and therefore should be listened to and taken on faith alone. Believe what you believe and be sure that whatever you take from here is what you want to take from here. I only ask that we keep it civil as everyone here to my knowledge is here to help. If you want our help, we're here. If you feel we are incorrect then please point it out. Far be it for me to tell a fisherman how to fish, you know what I mean. I err all the time and can admit it readily. What we are here to do is to share our thoughts, experiences and our knowledge. To correct and reevaluate what we know. I hope you can be apart of this easily. Zeb - Ann herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:40 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Yes, I do, several. All Type 2s, and all remain "cured" until they resume a hedonistic lifestyle, wherein the symptoms return. I have not been exposed to someone who is "cured" and then resumes, then "cured," ad infinitum.Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington ...they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25¢ Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 At least NOT YET..... if she keeps it up, she'll be a prime candidate for Type II I think your idea about buddying up and listening/cleansing with your friend is awesome Sylvia herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > Oh boy does her mom eat sugar! You'd think she'd die without it. And she's not the one diabetic. How ironic. > > Candace > > Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, > then it is not yet the end. > - > zeb@A... > herbal remedies > Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:18 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics > > > Dear Candace, > > Diabetes is cause by sugar intake that is overtaxing that organ and then killing it off. Either momma ate tons of sugars or she let her daughter eat way too much sugar during those 18 months. Sugars are in Mayonnaise, the salt that has the umbrella lady on it has sugar in it, there are so many things with sugar in it it's really a joke that its called food. But that's what causes diabetes. > > Source reference: " Sugar Blues " By William Duffy. > > Zeb > - > Candace Podratz > herbal remedies > Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics > > > My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. > She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. > She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. > > Candace > > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. > - > zeb@A... > herbal remedies > Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics > > > Candace, > > Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called " Sugar Blues " that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. > > Good Book. > > Zeb > > - > Candace Podratz > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM > Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics > > > Does anyone know of a diabetic who was " cured " with herbs? > > Candace > > A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. > - > SpareRibOfAz@a... > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM > Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME > > > In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: > As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. > Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. > > Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! > > God Bless, > Jamie in Az > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > -- ---------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 There ya go! That's what they call a "win-win"!! LOL!! Kelli Candace Podratz [CandaceAndBrock] Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:02 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Hey, there's an idea! I'm going to her house tomorrow. My tape player broke so I've been itchin to hear Doc's tape but can't. I could bring it to her house! Maybe I could do the cleanse with her. ; ) Candace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2004 Report Share Posted April 22, 2004 Candace, I asked that question about the mom because that is how people who are born Diabetics get so. That is where it begins. With Mom intaking so much sugar and baby having to assimilate it while in the womb kills the adrenal/endocrine system. So baby is born with the problem Mom has been neglecting to fix in her diet. "Thanks Ma". Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:23 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Oh boy does her mom eat sugar! You'd think she'd die without it. And she's not the one diabetic. How ironic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2004 Report Share Posted April 26, 2004 Candace, No one has ever been "cured" by "herbs" alone. True healing comes about from a complete change in lifestyle. One must use an holistic approach. People who expect herbs to stand alone are expecting them to work the same way pharmaceuticals are "supposed" to work, and it just doesn't happen that way. I once had a client who was having menopause problems. I told her she needed to come off of commercial meat and go on my Female Formula. Wellllllllllll she started taking the Female Formula and the hot flashes disappeared instantly, but she wouldn't stop using the commercial meats. Nothing I could tell her would convince her to do so, and she just kept ordering the Female Formula. The thing is this: As time went on, she had to use more and more of the Female Formula to curb the hot flashes. She went from one bottle a month, to two bottles a month, to four bottles a month over a one year time period and then stopped ordering it cause it wasn't working anymore. She never did change her eating habits and never quit the commercial meat. Last I heard she was on Premarin and still getting hot flashes. Ya kin lead a horse ta . . . Oh well. But you get the picture here. Herbs are only a tool. In the right hands they can be miraculous. But they will only work if you stop doing those things which got you into the terrible condition in the first place, and start on a health building program using a correct and vital diet. Then herbs'll work wonders. Diabetes can be handled easily. Piece of cake!!! Did you know that Birth Control pills, Corticosteroids, and certain diuretics were a major contributors to causing both Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes??? And then there's the subjects of enzyme inhibitors, sugar hogs, gluten intollerances, and so on, and so on. I cover the "causes" of diabetes very extensively in my cassette lecture. Of course I'm not supposed to use the word "cure" as it is against the law, and I am afterall a law abiding citizen, so I won't start that bad habit now. However, try telling my Diabetic "Students" that they haven't terminatedly handled their diabetic conditions. You will get an argument on your hands and no mistake. Guaruunteeeed!!! Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in Az Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 This is good data Ann. I'd like to add that it is always harder to "cure" it the second time, and very hard to "cure" it the third. I know of no one who has survived the "fourth" time around. This rule of thumb by the way also goes for Heart Disease, Cancer, and just about every other disease out there. Furthermore, the second onset of the disease usually comes on much quicker than it did the first time, with the third and fourth coming on so fast that "death" of the person or the organ could be within a month. The lifestyle changes must be permanent, and this is nothing to fool with. This whole cycle just happened to a good friend of Mary's and mine. This friend just finished her second round with Gall Stones. And this time I think she learned her lesson. The next time (if there is a next time), this friend could face death from a ruptured gallbladder or at the very least, having her gallbladder removed. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Ann herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:40 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Yes, I do, several. All Type 2s, and all remain "cured" until they resume a hedonistic lifestyle, wherein the symptoms return. I have not been exposed to someone who is "cured" and then resumes, then "cured," ad infinitum.Candace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote: Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Not so ironic actually. Dr. Joel Robbins has promoted that there is a deterioration of the gene pool over the generations from a hedonistic lifestyle that is handed down, and there may be some truth to this. Grandpa lived till he was 80, while his son only lived till he was 55 while the grandchild was having major problems at 10. According to Robbins, this is common. Mom eats a ton of sugar, and passes this habit down to her daughters. Mom's genes are strong enough to withstand this debauchery, but it weakens her own genetic reproduction when she conceives, and the kiddies growing up with the same sugar eating habits are the ones ending up with diabetes due to gene damage preconception. I have not personally verified this research of his but it does sound logical. Diabetes as a "disease" is not genetic as I stated in an earlier post, however "predisposition" to diabetes could very well be what is being experienced here, if the above is true. In other words, it is not the genetic blueprint which is at fault here, but a contagion of a hedonistic lifestyle which is handed down generation to generation. It is a well known fact that alcoholics and drug addicts create physically debilitated children, and that their children often turn out to be alcoholics and / or drug addicts. They have damaged their own personal gene pool. But one can step off of this merry-go-round. Can this be corrected??? Absolutely!!! The original blueprint is still there, and many an offspring of an alcoholic have had the strength of character to rise above the abberations of his or her parents, and have created healthy offspring themselves. This proves that the physical disease itself is not hereditary, only the mental abberated lifestyle and frame of mind. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:23 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Oh boy does her mom eat sugar! You'd think she'd die without it. And she's not the one diabetic. How ironic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:18 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Dear Candace, Diabetes is cause by sugar intake that is overtaxing that organ and then killing it off. Either momma ate tons of sugars or she let her daughter eat way too much sugar during those 18 months. Sugars are in Mayonnaise, the salt that has the umbrella lady on it has sugar in it, there are so many things with sugar in it it's really a joke that its called food. But that's what causes diabetes. Source reference: "Sugar Blues" By William Duffy. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. 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Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Thanks, Doc I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) but that was very short lived. About the only thing she hasn't tried is juice cleansing and using herbs. She didn't get herself into her condition, she was born with it thanks to her mother. : D She'll be doing the cleanse once she weans her baby, I can't wait to see what happens! Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Monday, April 26, 2004 4:29 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, No one has ever been "cured" by "herbs" alone. True healing comes about from a complete change in lifestyle. One must use an holistic approach. People who expect herbs to stand alone are expecting them to work the same way pharmaceuticals are "supposed" to work, and it just doesn't happen that way. I once had a client who was having menopause problems. I told her she needed to come off of commercial meat and go on my Female Formula. Wellllllllllll she started taking the Female Formula and the hot flashes disappeared instantly, but she wouldn't stop using the commercial meats. Nothing I could tell her would convince her to do so, and she just kept ordering the Female Formula. The thing is this: As time went on, she had to use more and more of the Female Formula to curb the hot flashes. She went from one bottle a month, to two bottles a month, to four bottles a month over a one year time period and then stopped ordering it cause it wasn't working anymore. She never did change her eating habits and never quit the commercial meat. Last I heard she was on Premarin and still getting hot flashes. Ya kin lead a horse ta . . . Oh well. But you get the picture here. Herbs are only a tool. In the right hands they can be miraculous. But they will only work if you stop doing those things which got you into the terrible condition in the first place, and start on a health building program using a correct and vital diet. Then herbs'll work wonders. Diabetes can be handled easily. Piece of cake!!! Did you know that Birth Control pills, Corticosteroids, and certain diuretics were a major contributors to causing both Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes??? And then there's the subjects of enzyme inhibitors, sugar hogs, gluten intollerances, and so on, and so on. I cover the "causes" of diabetes very extensively in my cassette lecture. Of course I'm not supposed to use the word "cure" as it is against the law, and I am afterall a law abiding citizen, so I won't start that bad habit now. However, try telling my Diabetic "Students" that they haven't terminatedly handled their diabetic conditions. You will get an argument on your hands and no mistake. Guaruunteeeed!!! Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 I've had that conversation with more than one person trying to tell me my husband is an alcoholic because his dad was. "He can't help it. He was born that way." And possibly our son will have problems that he "can't help". I never bought into that cr*p. My grandpa was an alcoholic, so was my dad, and I have a STRONG tendency to want to drink when things get bad. But I don't. I did as a teen along with doing drugs but thankfully had an awakening. Okay, it took a few, but I still got there nonetheless. I say alcoholism isn't genetic, the weaknesses or tendencies to go towards alcohol ARE genetic. Suppose it's the same for diabetes. I learn something new every day. I always thought diabetes was genetic. My mom is concerned she's developing diabetes now because she gets shaky and she knew she'd get it "since mom had it". Hmmmmmm Iiiiiiiinteresting. My mother is a chocalaholic and caramel cornaholic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Monday, April 26, 2004 8:43 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Not so ironic actually. Dr. Joel Robbins has promoted that there is a deterioration of the gene pool over the generations from a hedonistic lifestyle that is handed down, and there may be some truth to this. Grandpa lived till he was 80, while his son only lived till he was 55 while the grandchild was having major problems at 10. According to Robbins, this is common. Mom eats a ton of sugar, and passes this habit down to her daughters. Mom's genes are strong enough to withstand this debauchery, but it weakens her own genetic reproduction when she conceives, and the kiddies growing up with the same sugar eating habits are the ones ending up with diabetes due to gene damage preconception. I have not personally verified this research of his but it does sound logical. Diabetes as a "disease" is not genetic as I stated in an earlier post, however "predisposition" to diabetes could very well be what is being experienced here, if the above is true. In other words, it is not the genetic blueprint which is at fault here, but a contagion of a hedonistic lifestyle which is handed down generation to generation. It is a well known fact that alcoholics and drug addicts create physically debilitated children, and that their children often turn out to be alcoholics and / or drug addicts. They have damaged their own personal gene pool. But one can step off of this merry-go-round. Can this be corrected??? Absolutely!!! The original blueprint is still there, and many an offspring of an alcoholic have had the strength of character to rise above the abberations of his or her parents, and have created healthy offspring themselves. This proves that the physical disease itself is not hereditary, only the mental abberated lifestyle and frame of mind. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:23 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Oh boy does her mom eat sugar! You'd think she'd die without it. And she's not the one diabetic. How ironic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:18 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Dear Candace, Diabetes is cause by sugar intake that is overtaxing that organ and then killing it off. Either momma ate tons of sugars or she let her daughter eat way too much sugar during those 18 months. Sugars are in Mayonnaise, the salt that has the umbrella lady on it has sugar in it, there are so many things with sugar in it it's really a joke that its called food. But that's what causes diabetes. Source reference: "Sugar Blues" By William Duffy. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:38 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics My SIL went into a coma when she was 18 months old and they realized she was diabetic. She thinks it's from her mom smoking and being extremely stressed during the pregnancy. She's 27 now. I got her convinced to do a cleanse once she weans her little girl. Was just wondering if that would help since she's had it for SOOOOO long and her insulin making organ hasnt' worked in 26 years. Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - zeb herbal remedies Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:14 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, Not with just herbs but also with a significant change in diet as well. But yes through the total body cleanse on file and lots of hard work you can CURE diabetes. You should look into what diabetes is. There is also a book called "Sugar Blues" that goes into Diabetes and how the author started to cure himself of it. Good Book. Zeb - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:47 PM Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Does anyone know of a diabetic who was "cured" with herbs? Candace A happy person is not a person in a certain set of circumstances, but rather a person with a certain set of attitudes. - SpareRibOfAz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:38 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - ASPARTAME In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:41:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time, ann_reiling writes: As a diabetic, I take offense to the characterization that the diabetic friend is being somehow deficient for not giving up one thing that a diabetic can eat without affecting a life & death disease. If you don't live with diabetes, you can not possibly understand living with it, and really have no right making a judgement on what a diabetic does TO SAVE THEIR LIFE. Why are you so upset...Nobody was directing anything to you we were talking about a friend of John's. Nobody said a diabetic couldn't have a treat we were talking about how bad Aspartame is for everyone not just diabetics! God Bless, Jamie in AzFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. 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