Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. Sammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 The Adkins is too much meat in my opinion, not healthy. Her thyroid suddenly started acting up and she broke out in hives, her lips swelled up. And her diet was the only thing she'd changed. Once she went off the Adkins diet, she went back to "normal". I'm a bit nutritionally challenged: Isnt the Adkins diet getting rid of carbs, not sugar? Or are carbs full of suger!?! Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - Rasberry4000 herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:52 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. Sammy Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2004 Report Share Posted April 27, 2004 Atkins is good for only so long. Acid alkaline ratio starts to go outta wack after a while and lots of the carbs turn into sugars pretty darn fast and can also become unhealthy. Does the Atkins diet mention exercise? Zeb - Rasberry4000 herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:52 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. Sammy Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 The Atkins Diet has only a limited workability. In some instances, it can be dangerous, and can turn on a plethora of problems. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Monday, April 26, 2004 11:52 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Thanks, Doc I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) but that was very short lived. About the only thing she hasn't tried is juice cleansing and using herbs. She didn't get herself into her condition, she was born with it thanks to her mother. : D She'll be doing the cleanse once she weans her baby, I can't wait to see what happens! Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Monday, April 26, 2004 4:29 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Candace, No one has ever been "cured" by "herbs" alone. True healing comes about from a complete change in lifestyle. One must use an holistic approach. People who expect herbs to stand alone are expecting them to work the same way pharmaceuticals are "supposed" to work, and it just doesn't happen that way. I once had a client who was having menopause problems. I told her she needed to come off of commercial meat and go on my Female Formula. Wellllllllllll she started taking the Female Formula and the hot flashes disappeared instantly, but she wouldn't stop using the commercial meats. Nothing I could tell her would convince her to do so, and she just kept ordering the Female Formula. The thing is this: As time went on, she had to use more and more of the Female Formula to curb the hot flashes. She went from one bottle a month, to two bottles a month, to four bottles a month over a one year time period and then stopped ordering it cause it wasn't working anymore. She never did change her eating habits and never quit the commercial meat. Last I heard she was on Premarin and still getting hot flashes. Ya kin lead a horse ta . . . Oh well. But you get the picture here. Herbs are only a tool. In the right hands they can be miraculous. But they will only work if you stop doing those things which got you into the terrible condition in the first place, and start on a health building program using a correct and vital diet. Then herbs'll work wonders. Diabetes can be handled easily. Piece of cake!!! Did you know that Birth Control pills, Corticosteroids, and certain diuretics were a major contributors to causing both Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes??? And then there's the subjects of enzyme inhibitors, sugar hogs, gluten intollerances, and so on, and so on. I cover the "causes" of diabetes very extensively in my cassette lecture. Of course I'm not supposed to use the word "cure" as it is against the law, and I am afterall a law abiding citizen, so I won't start that bad habit now. However, try telling my Diabetic "Students" that they haven't terminatedly handled their diabetic conditions. You will get an argument on your hands and no mistake. Guaruunteeeed!!! Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Chocaholic & Caramel Cornaholic are far more accurate than the Diabetic diagnosis. ;o)Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Candace Podratz herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 12:21 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics I've had that conversation with more than one person trying to tell me my husband is an alcoholic because his dad was. "He can't help it. He was born that way." And possibly our son will have problems that he "can't help". I never bought into that cr*p. My grandpa was an alcoholic, so was my dad, and I have a STRONG tendency to want to drink when things get bad. But I don't. I did as a teen along with doing drugs but thankfully had an awakening. Okay, it took a few, but I still got there nonetheless. I say alcoholism isn't genetic, the weaknesses or tendencies to go towards alcohol ARE genetic. Suppose it's the same for diabetes. I learn something new every day. I always thought diabetes was genetic. My mom is concerned she's developing diabetes now because she gets shaky and she knew she'd get it "since mom had it". Hmmmmmm Iiiiiiiinteresting. My mother is a chocalaholic and caramel cornaholic. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - Doc Shillington herbal remedies Monday, April 26, 2004 8:43 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Not so ironic actually. Dr. Joel Robbins has promoted that there is a deterioration of the gene pool over the generations from a hedonistic lifestyle that is handed down, and there may be some truth to this. Grandpa lived till he was 80, while his son only lived till he was 55 while the grandchild was having major problems at 10. According to Robbins, this is common. Mom eats a ton of sugar, and passes this habit down to her daughters. Mom's genes are strong enough to withstand this debauchery, but it weakens her own genetic reproduction when she conceives, and the kiddies growing up with the same sugar eating habits are the ones ending up with diabetes due to gene damage preconception. I have not personally verified this research of his but it does sound logical. Diabetes as a "disease" is not genetic as I stated in an earlier post, however "predisposition" to diabetes could very well be what is being experienced here, if the above is true. In other words, it is not the genetic blueprint which is at fault here, but a contagion of a hedonistic lifestyle which is handed down generation to generation. It is a well known fact that alcoholics and drug addicts create physically debilitated children, and that their children often turn out to be alcoholics and / or drug addicts. They have damaged their own personal gene pool. But one can step off of this merry-go-round. Can this be corrected??? Absolutely!!! The original blueprint is still there, and many an offspring of an alcoholic have had the strength of character to rise above the abberations of his or her parents, and have created healthy offspring themselves. This proves that the physical disease itself is not hereditary, only the mental abberated lifestyle and frame of mind. Love, Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Sammy, there are lots of negative things about Atkins. It's not that ketosis is necessarily so bad for you, but all those amino acids could create problems with the internal, mineral chemistry of the body. Too much of that diet, and you end up chelating the entire body = not good. Love, Doc Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554Doc - Rasberry4000 herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:52 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. Sammy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Yes, the Atkins diet strictly limits carbs. Sugars are Carbs, so it advises against all sugar including fruit. I agree that the Atkins diet is not healthy;it also limits vegetables because of their carb content which makes it very difficult to get all of your nutrients. One good thing that the Atkins diet does do is get people to stop eating sugar and white flour. And, for some people it can be the start of finding a healthy diet. I did Atkins myself at one time, and although I had misgivings from the start about the lack of beneficial nutrients and the overload of animal fats, it did help me break my addiction to sugar. I am not saying that Atkins is the best way to do this, but for some people it can be a jumping off point. I only did Atkins for a couple of months and then I began evolving my diet into a healthy eating plan of lots of vegetables, fruits, Whole grains and some organic meats. I never went back to the sugar and white flour. Now, I have found this site and eat all organic fruits and vegetables, and am working on eating only sprouted grains and nuts. For me it has been a gradual process, and it did begin with Atkins. My advice to people would be to eat the way Doc recommends. However, for some people I think that can be too big of a leap and rather than having them continue to eat tons of sugar and refined flour I think whatever steps they take to get to a truly healthy diet can be helpful. Sorry for being so long. Love, Roni herbal remedies , " Candace Podratz " <CandaceAndBrock@w...> wrote: > The Adkins is too much meat in my opinion, not healthy. > Her thyroid suddenly started acting up and she broke out in hives, her lips swelled up. And her diet was the only thing she'd changed. Once she went off the Adkins diet, she went back to " normal " . > I'm a bit nutritionally challenged: Isnt the Adkins diet getting rid of carbs, not sugar? Or are carbs full of suger!?! > > Candace > > Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, > then it is not yet the end. > - > Rasberry4000@a... > herbal remedies > Tuesday, April 27, 2004 9:52 AM > Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics > > > In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock@w... writes: > I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) > > > Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. > Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. > > > Sammy > > > > Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: > 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. > 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. > 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to > prescribe for your own health. > We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as > they behave themselves. > Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person > following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. > It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to > be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. > > Dr. Ian Shillington > Doctor of Naturopathy > Dr.IanShillington@G... > > > > - ----------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I've never done much research on the Adkins diet, I know she was exercising while on it, don't know if that's "mandatory". I just heard of all the fats you eat and my poor heart screamed. No Adkins diet for me. Candace Everything will turn out well in the end. If things are not well now, then it is not yet the end. - zeb herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:51 PM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics Atkins is good for only so long. Acid alkaline ratio starts to go outta wack after a while and lots of the carbs turn into sugars pretty darn fast and can also become unhealthy. Does the Atkins diet mention exercise? Zeb - Rasberry4000 herbal remedies Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:52 AM Re: Herbal Remedies - Re: Diabetics In a message dated 4/26/2004 11:58:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CandaceAndBrock writes: I ask because she exercises regularly eats TONS of raw fruits and vegetables (not organic, she can't afford it) and the only time she's ever seen any improvement was while she was on the Adkins diet (blaugh!) Blaugh? Cutting out sugars from your diet is ridding your self of poison so I would not say that Atkins is a bad thing. On the contrary, it is a smart and healthy way of eating. Sugar is poisin to your body. It does nothing good for you but it is destructive. If she had seen improvment while on Atkins, why did she stop? She should listen to her body. Sammy Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 29, 2004 Report Share Posted April 29, 2004 Im with you. I do not believe alchohol abuse or any abuse is genetic. They say (and it makes sense) that in the 70's when the FDA told everyone that they should cut back on meat and eat more pasta because meat was bad for you, this started a new generation of Diabetics. People who thought they were eating healthy, were eating so much sugar that their body became insullin resistant. When we eat sugars our bodies release insullin. Eventually our cells get used to it and need more and more to do the same job. So now, people are at the stage where they need insullin. My mother and father developed diabetes and so did my uncle but before that, no one in my family had it. And its not so much the candy they ate but more, the breads and macaroni. Sammy In a message dated 4/27/2004 9:46:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, DocShillington writes: I've had that conversation with more than one person trying to tell me my husband is an alcoholic because his dad was. "He can't help it. He was born that way." And possibly our son will have problems that he "can't help". I never bought into that cr*p. My grandpa was an alcoholic, so was my dad, and I have a STRONG tendency to want to drink when things get bad. But I don't. I did as a teen along with doing drugs but thankfully had an awakening. Okay, it took a few, but I still got there nonetheless. I say alcoholism isn't genetic, the weaknesses or tendencies to go towards alcohol ARE genetic. Suppose it's the same for diabetes. I learn something new every day. I always thought diabetes was genetic. My mom is concerned she's developing diabetes now because she gets shaky and she knew she'd get it "since mom had it". Hmmmmmm Iiiiiiiinteresting. My mother is a chocalaholic and caramel cornaholic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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