Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 In a message dated 7/19/2003 12:11:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, aprilgim writes: I wondered if anyone has any few on neonatal euthanasia. In what context would an acupuncturist be confronted with such a decision other than personally? Seems to me this topic falls under the debate on abortion. The comments painted a vague picture with a broad brush. I suspect you might be attempting to stir up the list with a controversial topic. But if I am incorrect, I still feel there is not enough information to which to respond. It doesn't seem to be a TCM question, really, but more one of a general ethics question that is best answered by the individual(s) effected. But then again, perhaps you were attempting to address herbal-induced miscarriage? If I have missed something and you can tell me how this is a TCM question, I am open to hearing your point of view. be well, Maya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 In a message dated 7/19/2003 12:11:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, aprilgim writes: Although the answer may not be straightforward, the question itself helps caregivers put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right thing for the patient. Eunkyung, I appreciate the point you made above. As practitioners, we are not here to judge people's choices and lives but to educate and facilitate where possible. Maya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 I wondered if anyone has any few on neonatal euthanasia. Below is an abstract of an essay i recently wrote. The TCM practitioner is caught between two realms of ethical theory, ancient traditional ethics and modern medical ethics. Is it ethically justifiable to conduct euthanasia on the grounds of neonatal illness, genetic defeats or because of excessive population numbers? Is this beneficence in relation to society rather than the individual? Is euthanasia more enforceable when autonomy is removed from the equation because of mental neonatal immaturity? Ancient Chinese medical ethics is established on the foundation of Confucian ethics. The current dominant ideology conflicts, even though it is based upon, with ancient medical ethics to the point at which the aggressive government-sponsored eugenics programs are not compatible with traditional Chinese medical ethics. Modern western bioethics is made up of four principles: autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence and justice. Considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics, social standing and lifestyle should not interfere with this basic obligation to treat. Because neonates are unable to form opinions regarding what would maximise their short and long term best interests, those individuals caring for newborns may offer " substituted judgements " . The practitioner's ideal of suffering and life is the two-sided sword of beneficence. What is more important, life or the need not to suffer? What is in the infant's best interests? Although the answer may not be straightforward, the question itself helps caregivers put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right thing for the patient. Eunkyung Kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2003 Report Share Posted July 19, 2003 The ethical issues i raise are those faced by the TCM practitioner in China and may, to a degree, be transfered globally (this is a world- wide discussion group). Below is the full essay for you to review. INTRODUCTION The TCM practitioner is pulled between these two realms of ethical theory, ancient and modern and is faced with a complex conflict of interest in regards to euthanasia. The TCM practitioner feels caught between the patients' needs, the parent's wishes and the government protocol. In China during the last decade, one of the primary medical ethical issues to be addressed is euthanasia. A New York Times editorial in 1993 wrote China's National People's congress is considering eugenics and health protection legislation, including state-ordered sterilizations and abortions to avoid births of inferior quality (cited in Wu 1994, p367). Euthanasia in China is gaining increasing acceptance among physicians, intellectuals, and even the people (Pu 1991, p131). An investigation conducted in 1987 showed that many people, especially medical workers, accept active euthanasia (Hu 1993, p47). Through ancient Chinese medical ethics, Chinese humanitarianism has nurtured thousands of noble-mined medical workers and has contributed to health and human well-being. However, in the contemporary era, when science and society have developed at a tremendous pace, the traditional philosophy cannot provide current and scientific guidelines for physician's actions (Wu 1994, p368). Therefore, a series of social problems has arisen and traditional ethics and modern medical ethics clash. Is it ethically justifiable to conduct euthanasia on the grounds of neonatal illness, genetic defeats or because of excessive population numbers? Is this beneficence in relation to society rather than the individual? Is euthanasia more enforceable when autonomy is removed from the equation because of mental neonatal immaturity? The aim of this paper is to discuss and address these issues which form the complex conflicts of interest faced by the modern TCM practitioner in China. Euthanasia and modern bioethics is a large topic and includes many different aspects. The focus of this paper shall be restricted to neonatal euthanasia in relation to autonomy and beneficence. The moral dilemmas and the conflicts of interest raised by neonatal euthanasia in relation to Traditional Chinese Medical ethics and contemporary Chinese medical ethics will also be discussed and compared to modern western based bioethics. DISCUSSION Modern western bioethics is made up of four principles: autonomy, beneficence, non-maleficence and justice. Autonomy – literally, self rule, is probably better described as deliberated self rule. Beneficence and non-maleficence – is to provide a net benefit to patients with minimal harm. Justice is the fourth prima facie, and is often regarded as being synonymous with fairness and can be summarised as the moral obligation to act on the basis of fair adjudication between competing claims (Gillon 1994, p184). Ancient Chinese medical ethics is established on the foundation of Confucian ethics. Confucian ethics was the dominant moral philosophy and ideology of Chinese culture. Ancient Chinese medical ethics has a strong deontological feature and reveals the nature of duty-based ethics (Tsai 1999, p317). Wu states (1994, p369) that this approach emphasizes the moral significance of the obligations physicians should fulfil for patients to restrict their actions to a rational scope and guarantee all treating measures are morally appropriate for the benefit of patients. Ancient Chinese medical ethics as laid down by Sun Simiao during the Tang dynasty (Pang 1999, p247), focuses its moral doctrines of beneficence on humaneness and compassion to saving every living creature (Tsai 1999, p319). As the influence of ancient Chinese ethics subsides, it lags behind the more widely held views of current society, that of contemporary Chinese medical ethics. A 1985 survey of attitudes towards euthanasia in China, asked health professionals, lawyers, students, and members of the general public to examine four actual cases of euthanasia: a newborn with serious heart disease, a 1-month-old female baby with micro-encephaly, an irreversibly comatose patient, and a cancer patient dying in intractable pain. The results were surprising when compared to Western ideology but almost normal when perceived from a Chinese point-of-view. They showed 14.7% approval of euthanasia for case 1; 62.4% approval for case 2; 37.1% for case 3; and 39.4% in case 4. Although a 1-month-old baby is a person, it is permissible to take life if the quality of that life is very low (Wu 1994 p370). The fact that so many people approved in regards to 62.4% approval for case 2 (a 1-month-old female baby with micro-encephaly), illustrates the disregard towards the ancient traditional principles of sanctity of life. Active euthanasia is not yet legally permissible but active euthanasia in general and that practiced in the case of seriously defective newborns and low birth weigh infants seems to be getting increased support form professionals as well as the public in China (Hu 1993 p47). Contemporary Chinese medical ethics has been developed in a country with a backward economy, a power-centralized political system and a population of one billion-one quarter. It has twinned with the ethical issues in relation to social, political and the individual. Contemporary Chinese medical ethics draws on China's major traditions: Confucianism, Taoism, and Buddhism. Moral intuition and moral attitudes towards medical ethical issues and the resolution of ethical issues and ethical dilemmas (at lay, professional, and societal levels) are affected by the longstanding, entrenched traditional values and the current dominant ideology (Qiu 1993, p74). Crawshaw (1989, p112) further supports this as contemporary Chinese medical ethics provides an example of a Marxist socialist society's alternative to Hippocratic and Liberal Western medical ethics. The current dominant ideology conflicts, even though it is based upon, with ancient medical ethics to the point at which the aggressive government-sponsored eugenics programs are not compatible with traditional Chinese medical ethics (Wu 1994, p367). Practically speaking, the pragmatic fashion in political and economic life has led the Chinese to consider the heavy economic burden of supporting the increased numbers of handicapped people in the face of an uncontrollable and unsustainable population growth along with decreased living standards (Wu 1994, p370). Hence the political idealism of " one couple, one child " , which was nothing more than a futile attempt to control the population. The only true result form this was a short term slowing of the population growth combined with the great burden placed upon the patients to withdraw treatment from the second child so that the first child may be raised healthy (Qiu 1992, p164). From the above review, neonatal euthanasia can be beneficial for the patient's families who have the responsibility of caring for its members and neonatal euthanasia for severely compromised newborns and mandatory sterilization of the profoundly mentally retarded conform to the long-term benefit and present interest of Chinese society (Hu 1993, p50 and Wu 1994, p370). Most Chinese ethicists argue that the principles of beneficence, autonomy, and justice can be applied to justify euthanasia in certain circumstances. However, the main objections brought forth against euthanasia are: • Ethical – the heavenly principle of medical ethics prohibits a physician from doing anything that might bring the patient closer to death (non-maleficence); • Psychological – when people are close to death, they often have a stronger will to continue living; • Social – any form of euthanasia can be misused as a disguise for murder; • Medical – euthanasia will hinder the development of medicine (Qiu 1993, p71). In China, a strong practice of paternalism has been handed down from ancient times to the present. Tsai (1999, p318) demonstrates that patient autonomy appeared nowhere in traditional Chinese medical ethics. Chinese doctors have seldom ever talked about the patient's autonomy or self-determination, except when treating powerful persons. In the making of a medical decision, the health care professionals protect a patient's interests and their own, by emphasising the wishes of the family, but at the expense of the patient's right to self-determination in treatment decisions (Pang 1999, p250). Lowy et al. (1993) state that the principle of beneficence and compassion with the suffering have been used as arguments in favour of neonate euthanasia (cited in Forde et al. 1997, p887). In comparison, in Western countries, the Hippocratic Oath, the Declaration of Geneva and the International Code of Medical Ethics all state that the duty of doctors is to put the welfare of their patients first. Considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics, social standing and lifestyle should not interfere with this basic obligation to treat. However, when it comes to limiting treatment, the ethics of individual countries vary. Infants for whom aggressive treatment might not be desirable fall into two groups: those who will inevitably die whether or not there is medical intervention (the no hope situation), and those who might live if treatment is given but whose future outlook is extremely poor (the no purpose situation). All countries permit non-treatment decisions to be made for the first group but there is much more debate about withholding treatment from an infant on the basis of future quality of life (McHaffie 1999, p441). From the western bioethical viewpoint, absolute prohibitions of physician assistance in suicide have long been canonical in medical ethics, but a powerful reformation of views on euthanasia and physician-assisted suicide is now underway in several countries. The law on physician-assisted suicide in the state of Oregon, social approval of euthanasia in the Netherlands, and the legality of active euthanasia in Japan are clear sings of the changing future. Until very recently the consensus view in most countries was that a passive euthanasia of letting die is acceptable, but an active euthanasia of killing is not (Beauchamp 1999, p437). Neonates lack the ability to make decision about their future, thus the conventional meaning of autonomy has little moral bearing on the treatment of defective newborn infants. Outside of neonatal and paediatric medicine, paternalistic inclinations may conflict with the principle of autonomy. In neonatal medicine, however, the principle of autonomy naturally takes a backseat to the moral imperatives of beneficence (Sklansky 2001, p6). According to the principles of contemporary medical ethics, autonomy has become the centrepiece of Western contemporary theories about how patients and physicians should relate to one another. It is the individual, seen as an autonomous, self determining entity rather than in relationship to significant others, that is the starting point and the foundation stone of American bioethics (Fox 1984, p339). Kant excluded children and the insane from the principle of respect of persons who are autonomous and Mill applied liberty only to those who are in " The maturity of their faculties " (cited in Childress 1989, p235). Thus the principle of autonomy hold that " competent " individuals have the right to determine their own course of action, even if this means refusing medical treatment which is contrary to the individual's best interests (Muller 1992 p325). In a Western point-of-view, the principle of beneficence relates to the moral virtue of a beneficial action given to another person and thereby maximising benefit to that person. Because neonates are unable to form opinions regarding what would maximise their short and long term best interests, those individuals caring for newborns may offer " substituted judgements " . However, whether the principle of beneficence supports prolonging the life of a critically defective newborn may not always be clear (Sklansky 2001, p6). The parents have the authority to make decisions on behalf of their child, and their consent should be sought to treatment except in cases of emergency (McHaffie 1999, p441). In the UK and the Netherlands, where clinical judgments about the Child's best interests are permissible, doctors must use their intuition to determine what is best for this child and this family and what is and is not an intolerable burden (McHaffie 1999, p445). A scenario in which these complex issues arise is this: a TCM practitioner is asked by two parents to help them end the life of their second child. The second child sufferers from a crippling disability. The view of the parents is the financial aswell as the emotional burden placed upon them. The financial burden is two-prong: as the child is disabled there are huge costs involved in rearing and looking-after indefinitely the child throughout their life, the second point is from the governments protocol of `one family-one child', which means a second child receives no state funded help. Therefore the TCM practitioner is acutely aware of the parent's dilemma. However, they are faced with the paternalism state governments will in wanting them to take life, the parent's decision and their own autonomy as to what action to take. Therefore, the practitioner has " interests that may incline away from fulfilment of their obligations to patients " (Meyers 1999, p383). Putting the parent's wishes and that of a pro-active euthanasia government aside, there lies at the heart of this issue, the practitioner's ideal of suffering and life. This is the two-sided blade of beneficence. What is more important, life or the need not to suffer? Is the TCM practitioner, God crouched down into human form? Above all, a TCM practitioner's role is to the benefit of their patient and any decisions should be based upon this simply notion. CONCLUSION It can be said from this paper that different cultures, society's contexts and historical influence practice between traditional and contemporary medical ethics within different countries. For practitioners, they face conflicts of interest in an array of complicated aspects. Regarding neonatal euthanasia, in matters of ethics, law and conscience create dilemmas to which there are no easy answers. What is in the infant's best interests? Although the answer may not be straightforward, the question itself helps caregivers put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right thing for the patient. In this context, once one has determined the infant to be a potential person in the strict sense, quality of life, familial and social resources, and costs of treatment may become relevant, but only insofar as they help predict what treatment choice would ultimately be in the patient's best interests (Sklansky 2001, p8). Eunkyung Chinese Medicine , YinTangSong@a... wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2003 12:11:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, > aprilgim writes: > > > > I wondered if anyone has any few on neonatal euthanasia. > > In what context would an acupuncturist be confronted with such a decision > other than personally? Seems to me this topic falls under the debate on abortion. > The comments painted a vague picture with a broad brush. > > I suspect you might be attempting to stir up the list with a controversial > topic. But if I am incorrect, I still feel there is not enough information to > which to respond. It doesn't seem to be a TCM question, really, but more one > of a general ethics question that is best answered by the individual (s) > effected. But then again, perhaps you were attempting to address herbal-induced > miscarriage? > > If I have missed something and you can tell me how this is a TCM question, I > am open to hearing your point of view. > > be well, > Maya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Hi Eunkyung Kim, The question of the ethics and morality of euthanasia (neonatal or otherwise) is very difficult. Each practitioner comes with cultural and religious conditioning, which colour his/her decision in any given case. As individuals, we can do little to influence the decisions taken in other countries. I know that huge nations, like China and India, for example, have huge problems with population control. But the idea of euthanasia horrifies me. I even have nightmares when I [as a Vet] have to kill a terminally-ill dog. The thought of killing humans makes my hair stand on end. I would hate to think of killing a foetus or baby, or an adult human being, even in self-defence or war. I am not God. IMO, God gives Life, and God takes it away. I would prefer to leave that decision to God. That said, there are times when one must decide whether or not to WITHDRAW TREATMENT in hopeless cases. I faced that question last October, when I gave my family's permission to allow the noradrenalin-pump to be switched off when my son was diagnosed as not responding to treatment for hopeless brain trauma. It was the hardest decision of my life. I do not want to kill a human being, and pray to God that I may never be in the position of having to make a decision on that issue. Peace to you all, Best regards, Phil Eunkyung Kim wrote: > I wondered if anyone has any view on neonatal euthanasia. Below is > an abstract of an essay i recently wrote. The TCM practitioner is > caught between two realms of ethical theory, ancient traditional > ethics and modern medical ethics. Is it ethically justifiable to > conduct euthanasia on the grounds of neonatal illness, genetic > defeats or because of excessive population numbers? Is this > beneficence in relation to society rather than the individual? Is > euthanasia more enforceable when autonomy is removed from the > equation because of mental neonatal immaturity? Ancient Chinese > medical ethics is established on the foundation of Confucian > ethics. The current dominant ideology conflicts, even though it is > based upon, with ancient medical ethics to the point at which the > aggressive government-sponsored eugenics programs are not > compatible with traditional Chinese medical ethics. Modern western > bioethics is made up of four principles: autonomy, beneficence, > non-maleficence and justice. Considerations of religion, > nationality, race, party politics, social standing and lifestyle > should not interfere with this basic obligation to treat. Because > neonates are unable to form opinions regarding what would maximise > their short and long term best interests, those individuals caring > for newborns may offer " substituted judgements " . The > practitioner's ideal of suffering and life is the two-sided sword > of beneficence. What is more important, life or the need not to > suffer? What is in the infant's best interests? Although the answer > may not be straightforward, the question itself helps caregivers > put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right > thing for the patient. Eunkyung Kim Best regards, WORK : Teagasc Staff Development Unit, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland WWW : Email: < Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Email: < Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Dear Phil, Firstly, i'm very sorry to hear about your son. It's something that i just cannot imagine and hope i never have to face. I've read Eunkyung's article closely and i've found that she doesn't sway in favour of neonatal euthanasia but rather in the closing sentences states that 'caregivers (should) put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right thing for the patient'. This is of course extremeley difficult to determine and must be exaimed on a case to case basis. However painful this topic of neonatal euthanasia is, of which i don't agree with, it does exist in this often cruel world and therefore needs to be addressed and discussed. As i stated in a message a few days ago, TCM practitioners need to look at ethical issues closely, although in this case it's only found in China (i hope). Here in the West, we are not asked to undertake such difficult and impossible tasks. Aren't we the lucky ones... Attilio Chinese Medicine , " " <@e...> wrote: > Hi Eunkyung Kim, > > The question of the ethics and morality of euthanasia (neonatal or > otherwise) is very difficult. Each practitioner comes with cultural > and religious conditioning, which colour his/her decision in any > given case. > > As individuals, we can do little to influence the decisions taken in > other countries. I know that huge nations, like China and India, for > example, have huge problems with population control. But the idea > of euthanasia horrifies me. I even have nightmares when I [as a > Vet] have to kill a terminally-ill dog. > > The thought of killing humans makes my hair stand on end. I would > hate to think of killing a foetus or baby, or an adult human being, > even in self-defence or war. > > I am not God. IMO, God gives Life, and God takes it away. I would > prefer to leave that decision to God. That said, there are times > when one must decide whether or not to WITHDRAW TREATMENT > in hopeless cases. I faced that question last October, when I gave > my family's permission to allow the noradrenalin-pump to be > switched off when my son was diagnosed as not responding to > treatment for hopeless brain trauma. It was the hardest decision of > my life. > > I do not want to kill a human being, and pray to God that I may > never be in the position of having to make a decision on that issue. > > Peace to you all, > Best regards, > Phil > > Eunkyung Kim wrote: > > I wondered if anyone has any view on neonatal euthanasia. Below is > > an abstract of an essay i recently wrote. The TCM practitioner is > > caught between two realms of ethical theory, ancient traditional > > ethics and modern medical ethics. Is it ethically justifiable to > > conduct euthanasia on the grounds of neonatal illness, genetic > > defeats or because of excessive population numbers? Is this > > beneficence in relation to society rather than the individual? Is > > euthanasia more enforceable when autonomy is removed from the > > equation because of mental neonatal immaturity? Ancient Chinese > > medical ethics is established on the foundation of Confucian > > ethics. The current dominant ideology conflicts, even though it is > > based upon, with ancient medical ethics to the point at which the > > aggressive government-sponsored eugenics programs are not > > compatible with traditional Chinese medical ethics. Modern western > > bioethics is made up of four principles: autonomy, beneficence, > > non-maleficence and justice. Considerations of religion, > > nationality, race, party politics, social standing and lifestyle > > should not interfere with this basic obligation to treat. Because > > neonates are unable to form opinions regarding what would maximise > > their short and long term best interests, those individuals caring > > for newborns may offer " substituted judgements " . The > > practitioner's ideal of suffering and life is the two-sided sword > > of beneficence. What is more important, life or the need not to > > suffer? What is in the infant's best interests? Although the answer > > may not be straightforward, the question itself helps caregivers > > put self interests and biases aside in an effort to do the right > > thing for the patient. Eunkyung Kim > > > Best regards, > > > WORK : Teagasc Staff Development Unit, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland > WWW : > Email: <@e...> > Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] > > HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland > WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm > Email: <@e...> > Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 I am not God. IMO, God gives Life, and God takes it away. I would prefer to leave that decision to God >>>That is a value statement. Not all people see human life that way. What about taking life of a patient that clearly indicated he/she want the Dr to do that? Alon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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