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In a message dated 8/26/03 1:45:54 AM, YinTangSong writes:

 

 

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>

> > It is unfortunate that we chose to go after a vo-tech style process,

> >

> I hardly consider my education to be " vo-tech " ... seems a needlessly

> insulting analogy, really.

>

> Maya

>

> I am talking about the mindset used by schools in the 80's that in many cases

survives today. How many schools inspire their students to remain alumni, to

give to the school for future students and the advancement of the profession

via research, and to participate in professional organizations? How many have

decent libraries?

 

You should take it as an inspiration to advance your profession and not as an

insult. Where we were relative to where we are is quite different, and we

need to advance more to get where we need to be.

 

Your personal education is what you made it, with the help of some great

teachers perhaps and maybe even a good school, but what we had before and what

we

have now can be better, and some colleges are making the jump to educate

better. Those will survive. Others may not, or may remain vo-tech oriented. It

isn't an easy or cheap transition for them.

David Molony

 

 

 

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In a message dated 8/26/2003 9:46:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,

acuman1 writes:

 

 

> > I am talking about the mindset used by schools in the 80's that in many

> cases

> survives today. How many schools inspire their students to remain alumni, to

> give to the school for future students and the advancement of the profession

> via research, and to participate in professional organizations? How many

> have

> decent libraries?

>

> You should take it as an inspiration to advance your profession and not as

> an

> insult. Where we were relative to where we are is quite different, and we

> need to advance more to get where we need to be.

>

> Your personal education is what you made it, with the help of some great

> teachers perhaps and maybe even a good school, but what we had before and

> what we

> have now can be better, and some colleges are making the jump to educate

> better. Those will survive. Others may not, or may remain vo-tech oriented.

> It

> isn't an easy or cheap transition for them.

 

With all due respect, David, you did not make this clarification in your

previous post. The context was master vs. doctorate education. I was stating

that I found the master level education to be a perfectly acceptable point at

which to treat patients and if one wishes to continue to a doctorate that should

be a choice not a mandate. Perhaps you were thinking of the 80's education,

but it wasn't clearly stated. It sounded as though you were commenting on all

master level education. I only know of the master level education offered in

CA and WA. Based on such, I took exception to your remarks as I know the

standard to be quite good in both states (in the schools that I am familiar

with,

that is). I have heard of what education was in the 80's from folks who were

trained then and I do agree that it sounds quite lacking. But fortunately,

those I know who were educated then have been those who have sought to

constantly

continue their education and offer something to the profession. They are some

of the more inspirational people I know in the profession.

 

There is no " should " about any of this. Perhaps it would be a good for all

of us to keep an eye toward clarity when making a point in this format. It

would help to avoid this kind of misunderstanding as we don't have the luxury of

the quick correction as in conversation.

 

Be well

Maya

 

 

 

 

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Maya: It would help to avoid this kind of misunderstanding as we

don't have the luxury of the quick correction as in conversation.

 

Attilio: Actually we do have the ability to have quick discussions.

 

Go to the group's web site

 

Chinese Traditional Medicine/

 

Click on 'chat' on the left hand side tool bar. It then takes and

enters you into the group's chat room.

 

I admit no one is ever in there. But that may change.

 

Attilio

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