should internal organs such as Kidneys be acupunctured?

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obviously the Lungs must not be punctured... what about Kid, UB, etc.

Can damage be done?

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Hi Harriet

 

> obviously the Lungs must not be punctured... what about Kid, UB, etc.

> Can damage be done?

 

Standard acupuncture training suggests that one chould not

puncture any body cavity, vital organ, major blood vessel, or joint.

 

There are exceptions, for example deliberate injection of joints with

homeopathics, Traumeel or hyaluronidase. Also, biopsy of a vital

organ may be necessary.

 

Otherwise, stay clear of those parts!

 

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Phil,

 

Phil,

 

I certainly agree that the organs really

are better left unpunctured. But I've

seen a number of acupuncturists in

China who needle into joint spaces.

 

There is also a school, so to speak,

known as xiao zhen dao, literally

small needle knife, which uses " needles "

that are like small scalpels to penetrate

into joints. These folks have the most

comprehensive anatomy texts and

illusrations that I've seen.

 

Clearly one needs to know exactly what

one is up to in order to stick anything

into a joint, which is where rigorous

training enters the picture.

 

But I don't think we should lump joints

into the same category as organs

when it comes to proscriptions against

needling.

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

I certainly agree that the organs really

are better left unpunctured. But I've

seen a number of acupuncturists in

China who needle into joint spaces.

>>>>>I needle into joint spaces daily. Also when one uses a 1 1/2 or 2 inch

needled in the abdomen one needles into organ. Since i do this all the time as

did many or my mentors i guess it depends on the organ. I would not want my

liver or spleen needled.

 

 

There is also a school, so to speak,

known as xiao zhen dao, literally

small needle knife, which uses " needles "

that are like small scalpels to penetrate

into joints. These folks have the most

>>>>>Ken i have been looking for these needles do you know were i can get them?

Alon

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Alon,

 

> >>>>>Ken i have been looking for these needles do you know were i can

get them?

> Alon

 

They're readily available in Beijing.

I'd pick some up for you, but I'm not

there. If you know anyone there

they could probably help.

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

Ken when are going back to Beijing?

Alon

 

 

[Guest guest]

Alon,

 

Chinese Medicine , " Alon Marcus " <

alonmarcus@w...> wrote:

> Ken when are going back to Beijing?

> Alon

 

No date set as of now.

 

Ken

[Guest guest]

Ken thanks

 

 

[Guest guest]

There is a bit of experience of what can and should be done in the body during

surgery with acupuncture and herbology (and massage and qi kung), but i wouldn't

recomend aiming a needle at any organ from outside, no, no.

 

harrietepstein2002 <harrietepstein wrote:obviously the Lungs must

not be punctured... what about Kid, UB, etc.

Can damage be done?