Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 In a message dated 9/30/2003 3:14:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, attiliodalberto writes: > Who owns the material that is posted > on this list? > > Ken Ken, I am not an expert, but, I believe once you post to a public forum, your post becomes public information, UNLESS, you state in the post that what you are posting is copy protected information. Keep a copy of your statement for yourself in the unlikely event that someone might be interested in grabbing your stuff for their own. Hope this helps, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Good question Ken. Technically i am the 'list owner', but i have no idea what that means. I own nothing. As far as i'm concerned, every message in the archives is owned by the author. If your posting a large body of text then you may want to upload it to the files section. Again you'll be shown as the creator of that file. Although, personally, i would have the work copyrighted internationally, just to make sure. Does anyone else have any better idea to this situation? Attilio " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008> wrote: > Attilio, > > I'm certainly happy to post this little > essay, but I realized as I was about to > do it that it is actually meant to be > included in a forthcoming book. This once > again raises the curious question of > copyright and the protection thereof with > respect to lists such as these. I've > never really gotten a clear reading of > what the law states and means in terms > of any precautions that should or must > be taken in a case such as this where > I am concerned about not forfeiting the > copyright to a little chunk of text. > > It's not that big a deal, but I'd just > hate to find myself down the road with > someone other than me asserting ownership > of something that I aim to use in a book. > > So I thought I'd just check in with you > and do it here in the public forum so > that we can establish an agreement. > Since you're the list owner, it seems > that you'd be the only really likely > candidate to assert ownership of the > copyright of the contents of the archive. > > What's your take on this question? > > Who owns the material that is posted > on this list? > > Ken > > Chinese Medicine , Holger Wendt > <holger.wendt@t...> wrote: > > Yes please Ken > > > > Your magic makes me curious and wondering > > it moves me to think again, newly, pondering > > the magic we share that's universal > > and not just some old rehersal > > > > post it please > > > > Holger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've written an essay recently, just a week or > > two before I left Beijing, about the translation > > of the good old Chinese medical term, shen2, > > which we usually encounter as " spirit " in English > > versions of texts in which it appears. In my essay > > I suggest that another English word that takes > > advantage of one such opportunity is " magic. " > > > > If people here would like to read it, I'll post it > > in the files section. It explains the rationale for > > reading shen2 as magic and describes the > > insight into the meaning of both words as > > one particular case in which something > > distinctive is gained in translation. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Chris, > > I am not an expert, but, I believe once you post to a public forum, your > post becomes public information, UNLESS, you state in the post that what you > are posting is copy protected information. > Keep a copy of your statement for yourself in the unlikely event that > someone might be interested in grabbing your stuff for their own. > > Hope this helps, > Chris > It does help. Thanks. By the way, I'm not in the least concerned about someone grabbing my stuff for their own. That's my deepest desire as a writer, to have people take the work as their own. It's just that when I sign a publication contract, I have to warrant that I am the sole owner of the copyright to the work contained in the material covered by the contract. So I gotta know. Any and everyone please take what I say as your own. And that which seems unacceptable you can just throw away. My aim in taking part in these discussions consists of wanting to know what people think about the subjects we discuss and wanting people to take what I have to say as their own. I hope to be providing people with ideas and information that they can actually use in their lives and in their studies and their practices. That's why I write books, too. Thanks, again. Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Copyright is established by ownership. The best thing to do is post yourself the document. The date stamp by the Post Office will authenticate who said what first. You can also slap a Copyright notice on what you publish. However, if you publish 'ad hoc' in a public domain like the Internet expect people to use your work on an 'educational basis' for free. You can't have it both ways I am afraid - otherwise I would be a rich man by now ;-) Sammy. [attiliodalberto] 30 September 2003 20:11 Chinese Medicine Copyrighted Work Good question Ken. Technically i am the 'list owner', but i have no idea what that means. I own nothing. As far as i'm concerned, every message in the archives is owned by the author. If your posting a large body of text then you may want to upload it to the files section. Again you'll be shown as the creator of that file. Although, personally, i would have the work copyrighted internationally, just to make sure. Does anyone else have any better idea to this situation? Attilio " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008> wrote: > Attilio, > > I'm certainly happy to post this little > essay, but I realized as I was about to > do it that it is actually meant to be > included in a forthcoming book. This once > again raises the curious question of > copyright and the protection thereof with > respect to lists such as these. I've > never really gotten a clear reading of > what the law states and means in terms > of any precautions that should or must > be taken in a case such as this where > I am concerned about not forfeiting the > copyright to a little chunk of text. > > It's not that big a deal, but I'd just > hate to find myself down the road with > someone other than me asserting ownership > of something that I aim to use in a book. > > So I thought I'd just check in with you > and do it here in the public forum so > that we can establish an agreement. > Since you're the list owner, it seems > that you'd be the only really likely > candidate to assert ownership of the > copyright of the contents of the archive. > > What's your take on this question? > > Who owns the material that is posted > on this list? > > Ken > > Chinese Medicine , Holger Wendt > <holger.wendt@t...> wrote: > > Yes please Ken > > > > Your magic makes me curious and wondering > > it moves me to think again, newly, pondering > > the magic we share that's universal > > and not just some old rehersal > > > > post it please > > > > Holger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've written an essay recently, just a week or > > two before I left Beijing, about the translation > > of the good old Chinese medical term, shen2, > > which we usually encounter as " spirit " in English > > versions of texts in which it appears. In my essay > > I suggest that another English word that takes > > advantage of one such opportunity is " magic. " > > > > If people here would like to read it, I'll post it > > in the files section. It explains the rationale for > > reading shen2 as magic and describes the > > insight into the meaning of both words as > > one particular case in which something > > distinctive is gained in translation. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 its only as good as the money you will spend to enforce it... - <ga.bates <Chinese Medicine > Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:32 PM RE: Copyrighted Work Copyright is established by ownership. The best thing to do is post yourself the document. The date stamp by the Post Office will authenticate who said what first. You can also slap a Copyright notice on what you publish. However, if you publish 'ad hoc' in a public domain like the Internet expect people to use your work on an 'educational basis' for free. You can't have it both ways I am afraid - otherwise I would be a rich man by now ;-) Sammy. [attiliodalberto] 30 September 2003 20:11 Chinese Medicine Copyrighted Work Good question Ken. Technically i am the 'list owner', but i have no idea what that means. I own nothing. As far as i'm concerned, every message in the archives is owned by the author. If your posting a large body of text then you may want to upload it to the files section. Again you'll be shown as the creator of that file. Although, personally, i would have the work copyrighted internationally, just to make sure. Does anyone else have any better idea to this situation? Attilio " kenrose2008 " <kenrose2008> wrote: > Attilio, > > I'm certainly happy to post this little > essay, but I realized as I was about to > do it that it is actually meant to be > included in a forthcoming book. This once > again raises the curious question of > copyright and the protection thereof with > respect to lists such as these. I've > never really gotten a clear reading of > what the law states and means in terms > of any precautions that should or must > be taken in a case such as this where > I am concerned about not forfeiting the > copyright to a little chunk of text. > > It's not that big a deal, but I'd just > hate to find myself down the road with > someone other than me asserting ownership > of something that I aim to use in a book. > > So I thought I'd just check in with you > and do it here in the public forum so > that we can establish an agreement. > Since you're the list owner, it seems > that you'd be the only really likely > candidate to assert ownership of the > copyright of the contents of the archive. > > What's your take on this question? > > Who owns the material that is posted > on this list? > > Ken > > Chinese Medicine , Holger Wendt > <holger.wendt@t...> wrote: > > Yes please Ken > > > > Your magic makes me curious and wondering > > it moves me to think again, newly, pondering > > the magic we share that's universal > > and not just some old rehersal > > > > post it please > > > > Holger > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've written an essay recently, just a week or > > two before I left Beijing, about the translation > > of the good old Chinese medical term, shen2, > > which we usually encounter as " spirit " in English > > versions of texts in which it appears. In my essay > > I suggest that another English word that takes > > advantage of one such opportunity is " magic. " > > > > If people here would like to read it, I'll post it > > in the files section. It explains the rationale for > > reading shen2 as magic and describes the > > insight into the meaning of both words as > > one particular case in which something > > distinctive is gained in translation. > > > > Ken > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 Hi Attilio & Ken, For many, once articles appear on the web, the word " copyright " means the right to copy! Copyright originally was intended to prevent unauthorised copying for COMMERCIAL GAIN, i.e straight piracy of published work and its republication FOR SALE by another without permission and without recognition of its author. In academic/research work, it is commonplace to cite the work of others, even to cite important sections verbatim. Though courtesy requires that permission be sought [and granted] for those citations, not everyone seeks that permission! Best regards, Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attilio wrote: > Good question Ken. Technically i am the 'list owner', but i have no > idea what that means. I own nothing. As far as i'm concerned, every > message in the archives is owned by the author. If your posting a > large body of text then you may want to upload it to the files > section. Again you'll be shown as the creator of that file. Although, > personally, i would have the work copyrighted internationally, just to > make sure. Does anyone else have any better idea to this situation? > Attilio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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