Herbs from around the world combined

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Luiz and the group,

I am interested in different modalities of traditional herbal usage ,i would like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian herbs .Also do you combine the two different styles of herbs together (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

 

Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining or using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions herbs)and the results, which can be obtained..

Thanks- Rodd

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Michael Tierra is well known for what he calls

planetary herbology. He uses TCM as his main

diagnostic bases and herb selection and then brings in

a few of the others from other traditions. Luckly my

wife has studied with him and I am able to learn from

her or by attending American Herbalist Guild

conferences on how to incorporate other herbs.

Currently I find that I can bring American, Euro,

African and south American herbs in safly and

effectively into my TCM formulas or at times in

isolation.

Also I find Peter Holmes 2 volume set on herbs very

useful at times. Although I feel he stretches the

herbs functions a bit, he does explain the functions

of many western herbs in tcm terms and functions. Very

helpful if a patient shows up with a bag of western

herbs or you want to check out some of the western

herbs to add extra punch.

Bob Linde

Acupuncture & Herbal Therapies

www.acuherbals.com

--- Rodd <acurodd wrote:

> Luiz and the group,

> I am interested in different modalities of herbal

> usage ,would like some information on the

> utilisation of Brazilian herbs .Also do you combine

> the two different styles of herbs together

> (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

>

> Also is there any practitioner in the group that is

> combining or using Chinese Herbs and Australian

> herbs( or any other regions herbs)and the results,

> which can be obtained..

> Thanks- Rodd

>

>

 

> Personals

> - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited

time!

 

 

 

 

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Rodd and the group

 

Brazil is a rich country in medicinal herbs. I believe that most of

them still nor they were discovered or well you study

scientifically. The Amazonian forest is a lot of big.

 

But we have to our disposition many Brazilian herbs already known

and you study scientifically for almost all of the diseases and

unbalances.

 

I don't combine the two different styles of herbs together

(Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs)

in a same one formulates. In a given formulation I just use herbs of

a same area.

 

Few times I prescribe two formulas - one with Brazilian and other

herbs with Chinese herbs.

 

Always I try to begin with local herbs (Brazilian), but if it goes

need I use herbs or Chinese formula.

 

Here it is not very easy to obtain the Chinese herbs to the natural,

and when that happens not always the price is good. It is much

easier to find them formulate Chinese ready. There are few

suppliers. And the price is very expensive. Not always the customers

can pay for a treatment.

 

The herbs and the formulas with Brazilian herbs are cheap and easier

to obtain.

 

Excuse my English

 

TKS

 

Luiz carlos

 

 

 

Chinese Medicine , Rodd

<acurodd> wrote:

> Luiz and the group,

> I am interested in different modalities of herbal usage ,would

like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian herbs .Also do

you combine the two different styles of herbs together (Brazilian

herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

>

> Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining or

using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions herbs)

and the results, which can be obtained..

> Thanks- Rodd

>

>

 

> Personals

> - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time!

[Guest guest]

Hi Luiz,

 

Interesting approach. I wonder what your take is on the reason we

call them " Chinese herbs " ?

 

Thanks

 

~Fernando

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " heiwa416 "

<heiwa416> wrote:

> Rodd and the group

>

> Brazil is a rich country in medicinal herbs. I believe that most of

> them still nor they were discovered or well you study

> scientifically. The Amazonian forest is a lot of big.

>

> But we have to our disposition many Brazilian herbs already known

> and you study scientifically for almost all of the diseases and

> unbalances.

>

> I don't combine the two different styles of herbs together

> (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs)

> in a same one formulates. In a given formulation I just use herbs

of

> a same area.

>

> Few times I prescribe two formulas - one with Brazilian and other

> herbs with Chinese herbs.

>

> Always I try to begin with local herbs (Brazilian), but if it goes

> need I use herbs or Chinese formula.

>

> Here it is not very easy to obtain the Chinese herbs to the

natural,

> and when that happens not always the price is good. It is much

> easier to find them formulate Chinese ready. There are few

> suppliers. And the price is very expensive. Not always the

customers

> can pay for a treatment.

>

> The herbs and the formulas with Brazilian herbs are cheap and

easier

> to obtain.

>

> Excuse my English

>

> TKS

>

> Luiz carlos

>

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , Rodd

> <acurodd> wrote:

> > Luiz and the group,

> > I am interested in different modalities of herbal usage ,would

> like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian herbs .Also

do

> you combine the two different styles of herbs together (Brazilian

> herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

> >

> > Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining or

> using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions

herbs)

> and the results, which can be obtained..

> > Thanks- Rodd

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Personals

> > - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time!

[Guest guest]

Hi Fernando,

 

My personal approach to the issue is that the formulae set for

Brazilian pythoteraphy is not the same set of formulae for Chinese

Medicine. Usually the Chinese formulae can be procured on the market

already conconocted by foreign providers. What I call Brazilian

herbs are those grown in Brazilian soil, and what I call Chinese

herbs are those grown overseas in Asia, specifically in China.

Hence, a given herb may be native to Brazil, China and other parts

of the world, but it will be a " Brazilian herb " or a " Chinese herb "

depending on their region of origin.

It is very important to remember that it is very difficult in Brazil

to find foreign herbs on their natural form, at a reasonable price,

albeit it is easy finding the same component inserted on a premade

industrial elixir.

 

Thans

 

Luiz Carlos

 

 

Chinese Medicine , " Fernando

Bernall " <flb@f...> wrote:

> Hi Luiz,

>

> Interesting approach. I wonder what your take is on the reason we

> call them " Chinese herbs " ?

>

> Thanks

>

> ~Fernando

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " heiwa416 "

> <heiwa416> wrote:

> > Rodd and the group

> >

> > Brazil is a rich country in medicinal herbs. I believe that most

of

> > them still nor they were discovered or well you study

> > scientifically. The Amazonian forest is a lot of big.

> >

> > But we have to our disposition many Brazilian herbs already

known

> > and you study scientifically for almost all of the diseases and

> > unbalances.

> >

> > I don't combine the two different styles of herbs together

> > (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs)

> > in a same one formulates. In a given formulation I just use

herbs

> of

> > a same area.

> >

> > Few times I prescribe two formulas - one with Brazilian and

other

> > herbs with Chinese herbs.

> >

> > Always I try to begin with local herbs (Brazilian), but if it

goes

> > need I use herbs or Chinese formula.

> >

> > Here it is not very easy to obtain the Chinese herbs to the

> natural,

> > and when that happens not always the price is good. It is much

> > easier to find them formulate Chinese ready. There are few

> > suppliers. And the price is very expensive. Not always the

> customers

> > can pay for a treatment.

> >

> > The herbs and the formulas with Brazilian herbs are cheap and

> easier

> > to obtain.

> >

> > Excuse my English

> >

> > TKS

> >

> > Luiz carlos

> >

> >

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , Rodd

> > <acurodd> wrote:

> > > Luiz and the group,

> > > I am interested in different modalities of herbal usage ,would

> > like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian

herbs .Also

> do

> > you combine the two different styles of herbs together

(Brazilian

> > herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

> > >

> > > Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining

or

> > using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions

> herbs)

> > and the results, which can be obtained..

> > > Thanks- Rodd

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Personals

> > > - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Luiz,

 

I come from a long lineage of South American herbalists. As a child I

spent time in Leticia, Colombia, which borders with Brazil and Peru

and witnessed plenty of curanderos, including my great-grandfather,

work their " magic " .

 

Good luck to you.

 

Fernando

 

Chinese Medicine , " heiwa416 "

<heiwa416> wrote:

>

> Hi Fernando,

>

> My personal approach to the issue is that the formulae set for

> Brazilian pythoteraphy is not the same set of formulae for Chinese

> Medicine. Usually the Chinese formulae can be procured on the

market

> already conconocted by foreign providers. What I call Brazilian

> herbs are those grown in Brazilian soil, and what I call Chinese

> herbs are those grown overseas in Asia, specifically in China.

> Hence, a given herb may be native to Brazil, China and other parts

> of the world, but it will be a " Brazilian herb " or a " Chinese herb "

> depending on their region of origin.

> It is very important to remember that it is very difficult in

Brazil

> to find foreign herbs on their natural form, at a reasonable price,

> albeit it is easy finding the same component inserted on a premade

> industrial elixir.

>

> Thans

>

> Luiz Carlos

>

>

> Chinese Medicine , " Fernando

> Bernall " <flb@f...> wrote:

> > Hi Luiz,

> >

> > Interesting approach. I wonder what your take is on the reason we

> > call them " Chinese herbs " ?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > ~Fernando

> >

> >

> > Chinese Medicine , " heiwa416 "

> > <heiwa416> wrote:

> > > Rodd and the group

> > >

> > > Brazil is a rich country in medicinal herbs. I believe that

most

> of

> > > them still nor they were discovered or well you study

> > > scientifically. The Amazonian forest is a lot of big.

> > >

> > > But we have to our disposition many Brazilian herbs already

> known

> > > and you study scientifically for almost all of the diseases and

> > > unbalances.

> > >

> > > I don't combine the two different styles of herbs together

> > > (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs)

> > > in a same one formulates. In a given formulation I just use

> herbs

> > of

> > > a same area.

> > >

> > > Few times I prescribe two formulas - one with Brazilian and

> other

> > > herbs with Chinese herbs.

> > >

> > > Always I try to begin with local herbs (Brazilian), but if it

> goes

> > > need I use herbs or Chinese formula.

> > >

> > > Here it is not very easy to obtain the Chinese herbs to the

> > natural,

> > > and when that happens not always the price is good. It is much

> > > easier to find them formulate Chinese ready. There are few

> > > suppliers. And the price is very expensive. Not always the

> > customers

> > > can pay for a treatment.

> > >

> > > The herbs and the formulas with Brazilian herbs are cheap and

> > easier

> > > to obtain.

> > >

> > > Excuse my English

> > >

> > > TKS

> > >

> > > Luiz carlos

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Chinese Medicine , Rodd

> > > <acurodd> wrote:

> > > > Luiz and the group,

> > > > I am interested in different modalities of herbal

usage ,would

> > > like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian

> herbs .Also

> > do

> > > you combine the two different styles of herbs together

> (Brazilian

> > > herbs and also the Chinese herbs).

> > > >

> > > > Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining

> or

> > > using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions

> > herbs)

> > > and the results, which can be obtained..

> > > > Thanks- Rodd

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Personals

> > > > - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time!

[Guest guest]

Fernando,

 

We share this lineage only off by half a hemisphere. My mother's grandmother was an oral tradition herbalist and had my mother pick the local herbs from the forests and meadows. When the French Algerians occupied her part of Bulgaria during WWI, she even treated them for their flus and colds. She took all comers. She was, of course, also a midwife.

 

In Friendship ... and Lineage,

Emmanuel Segmen

 

-

Fernando Bernall

Chinese Medicine

Sunday, November 30, 2003 4:48 PM

Re: Herbs from around the world combined

Thanks Luiz,I come from a long lineage of South American herbalists. As a child I spent time in Leticia, Colombia, which borders with Brazil and Peru and witnessed plenty of curanderos, including my great-grandfather, work their "magic". Good luck to you.FernandoChinese Medicine , "heiwa416" <heiwa416> wrote:> > Hi Fernando,> > My personal approach to the issue is that the formulae set for > Brazilian pythoteraphy is not the same set of formulae for Chinese > Medicine. Usually the Chinese formulae can be procured on the market > already conconocted by foreign providers. What I call Brazilian > herbs are those grown in Brazilian soil, and what I call Chinese > herbs are those grown overseas in Asia, specifically in China. > Hence, a given herb may be native to Brazil, China and other parts > of the world, but it will be a "Brazilian herb" or a "Chinese herb" > depending on their region of origin.> It is very important to remember that it is very difficult in Brazil > to find foreign herbs on their natural form, at a reasonable price, > albeit it is easy finding the same component inserted on a premade > industrial elixir.> > Thans> > Luiz Carlos> > > Chinese Medicine , "Fernando > Bernall" <flb@f...> wrote:> > Hi Luiz,> > > > Interesting approach. I wonder what your take is on the reason we > > call them "Chinese herbs"?> > > > Thanks> > > > ~Fernando> > > > > > Chinese Medicine , "heiwa416" > > <heiwa416> wrote:> > > Rodd and the group > > > > > > Brazil is a rich country in medicinal herbs. I believe that most > of > > > them still nor they were discovered or well you study > > > scientifically. The Amazonian forest is a lot of big. > > > > > > But we have to our disposition many Brazilian herbs already > known > > > and you study scientifically for almost all of the diseases and > > > unbalances. > > > > > > I don't combine the two different styles of herbs together > > > (Brazilian herbs and also the Chinese herbs)> > > in a same one formulates. In a given formulation I just use > herbs > > of > > > a same area. > > > > > > Few times I prescribe two formulas - one with Brazilian and > other > > > herbs with Chinese herbs. > > > > > > Always I try to begin with local herbs (Brazilian), but if it > goes > > > need I use herbs or Chinese formula. > > > > > > Here it is not very easy to obtain the Chinese herbs to the > > natural, > > > and when that happens not always the price is good. It is much > > > easier to find them formulate Chinese ready. There are few > > > suppliers. And the price is very expensive. Not always the > > customers > > > can pay for a treatment. > > > > > > The herbs and the formulas with Brazilian herbs are cheap and > > easier > > > to obtain.> > > > > > Excuse my English> > > > > > TKS> > > > > > Luiz carlos> > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Medicine , Rodd > > > <acurodd> wrote:> > > > Luiz and the group,> > > > I am interested in different modalities of herbal usage ,would > > > like some information on the utilisation of Brazilian > herbs .Also > > do > > > you combine the two different styles of herbs together > (Brazilian > > > herbs and also the Chinese herbs).> > > > > > > > Also is there any practitioner in the group that is combining > or > > > using Chinese Herbs and Australian herbs( or any other regions > > herbs)> > > and the results, which can be obtained.. > > > > Thanks- Rodd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personals> > > > - New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time!Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups’ homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click ‘edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to<Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days.

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[Fernando: I come from a long lineage of South American herbalists. As a

child ... ]

[Emmanuel: We share this lineage ... My mother's grandmother was an oral

tradition ..]

 

Amongst us

There walk the Silent Ones

Who listen to the leaves.

 

They know the seed

And recognize the breed

Of shrub and tree.

 

When they take from the plant

And give to those in pain

Both, by their hand, gain

The flower and the flesh.

 

Such is the Lore, that these

Are not children of the Earth

But that Earth is their Child.

 

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Sweet :-)

 

Fernando

 

Chinese Medicine , " dr. k "

 

Amongst us

> There walk the Silent Ones

> Who listen to the leaves.

>

> They know the seed

> And recognize the breed

> Of shrub and tree.

>

> When they take from the plant

> And give to those in pain

> Both, by their hand, gain

> The flower and the flesh.

>

> Such is the Lore, that these

> Are not children of the Earth

> But that Earth is their Child.

>

> Dr. Holmes Keikobad

> MB BS DPH DIP AC NCCAOM LIC AC CO & AZ

> www.acu-free.com - home based recertification for acupuncturists

and health

> professionals