Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Dear TCM listlings, FYI should anyone in this TCM community wish to to an e- group with a focus on prostate cancer. One of my concerns is that TCM or maybe WCM masquerading as TCM will borrow the erroneous WM paradigm for PC treatment, instead of relying on its own intuitions and history of treatment. PC-SPES is a good example of how a talented Chinese doc twisted her knowledge of herbs to match the expectations of a WM treatment: she created an estrogenic formula for men to use that mimicked stilbestrol. Why didn't she try to promote the idea that PC was a disease of imbalance and deficiency, instead of going along with the idea that it is caused by excess androgen ? The answer is simple: money. It is more profitable to sell stuff that fits the current medical paradigm; whereas challenging that paradigm is expensive and time consuming. Anyhow the whole thing backfired on the Chinese doc because traces of indometacin were found in the mix - a common habit I fear is addition of western meds to 'synergise' with the TCMs - but this is of course illegal in the USA and the EU too, and she got found out. Now she is out of business and has given TCM a bad name into the bargain. What do you think ? Are there TCM products that can promote 'essential maleness' without promoting tumor growth as well ? EPCEL is gearing up to address new and exciting emergent findings in the field of carcinogenesis in general and prostate cancer in particular. These findings give new hope that prostate cancer can be treated at virtually any stage with curative intent. They include the following threads to weave into our existing paradigm of prostate cancer etiology and management: 1. The tissue organization field theory of carcinogenesis and neoplasia by Carlos Sonnenschein and Ana M. Soto suggests that neoplastic cells may be reprogrammed to behave like 'normal' cells within normal tissues. This supports Bruchovsky's statements that prostate cancer cells can be 're-trained' to respond normally to androgen. 2. Non-linear responses in biological systems :- the hormetic effect as outlined by Edward Calabrese has been shown to apply to the relationship between PSA and androgen. A typical biphasic relationship described by a bell shaped response curve indicates that physiological androgen concentrations switch on pro-apoptotic genes (1) such as AS3, and that sub-physiological androgen concentrations promote carcinogenesis. 3. Field work by Robert Leibowitz in the application (2) of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for prostate cancer gives us some working parameters on which to base possible treatment options. 4. Studies by Logothetis and others (2) show how the same strategy used by Leibowitz for testosterone therapy (3) may also be applied to DHT. 5. The notion of 'androgen challenge for prostate cancer' is arrived at where active intervention in the progression of prostatic disease is sought by means of raising androgen through natural techniques. Should you decide to join EPCEL you will be sent documentation covering (1), (2) and (3) above. It is hoped you will be able to support the general drift of thought indicated by these documents and contribute to group correspondence. The EPCEL Files area also contain a wealth of back-up information. Yours sincerely, EPCEL-Owner (AT) (DOT) com *Natural techniques such as those found in functional foods ('androgen stacks'), weight bearing exercise and public domain TCM techniques and herbal formulae to raise androgen levels are favoured. This is a strategy to avoid dependence on third party products, and to avoid the danger of drug side effects. For example, the hormone homeostasis disrupting effect of DHT or testosterone patches which cause testicular atrophy. Note: Advocation of 'androgen challenge' universally is not intended. That decision is up to individuals to weigh up preferences:- to stay in the comfort zone on HB and low androgen levels indefinitely, or take a chance to regain his essential maleness. There is some uncertainty in outcome, and decisions should be made in consultation with appropriate medical advisors. No intention to diagnose or medically consult should be inferred from this document. Education for Prostate Cancer Electronic Link http://health.epcel/ epcel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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