Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 Hi All, Here are my notes on the SHELLS in TCM/CM. MAIN HB CLASSIFICATIONS: The animal shells (Biejia, Guiban) are “Tonic~Build Yin Hbs”. Most mollusc shells [Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhu, Zhenzhumu, Zibeichi] are “Calm LV Yang Hbs”, except Haigeke & Walengzi, which are “Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Hbs”. Please feedback any serious errors that you find here. Best regards, Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Hb Pinyin Name _Hb Common Name _Hb Latin Name _Main Hb Class _Nature _Channels _Dose _Main Actions _Combinations & Uses _Cautions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biejia Turtle Shell Amydae/Trionycis Sinensis Carapax Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 9-30g (decocted first); when used w other Hbs decoct Biejia first (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Clear Heat; Antifever; (2) Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Reduce Swelling; Reduce Masses;: abdomen~mass; LV~enlarged; SP~enlarged. It contains colloid, keratin, iodine & vitamin D. It may inhibit Hyperplasia of connective tissue & Boost Fx of plasma proteins; (3) Also: Antifatigue/Antiexhaustion; LV-Protector; Build LV Yin; Immunostimulant; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Anticancer (1) Steamed Biejia is better to Build Yin/Calm Yang; Biejia w Shengdihuang, Digupi, Zhimu, Qinghao, Qinjiao, Mudanpi & Shanzhuyu etc in Yin Xu w Xu Fire Shi/Xue Heat/Xu Heat, fever~hectic/fever~high at night & subsided in morning & Febrile Disease~late stage w Yin Fluid Consumed & fever~lingering & sweat~night, tongue~red & tongue~dry wo coat/infantile malnutrition w fever; etc; Yin Xu w Heat/Fire Shi & convulsion; Xue Heat~late stage w Heat Attack lingering on Yingfen & fever~night; TB w fever, esp fever~hectic* & sweat~night; Xu w Wind Rising (Wind~Internal) w fever~hectic*/fever~tidal & sweat~night; (2) Cubiejia (vinegared) is better to Soften Hardness in lumps~hard/Hard Masses; malaria~chronic, malaria w SP~enlarged/splenomegaly, amenorrhoea & abdomen~mass, etc; CI: Pregnancy; Caution in Xu & Cold of SJM-SP-ST/w appetite~poor & diarrhoea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guiban; Guibanjia ??? (???); Guijia ?? (??); (See: Cuguijia) Tortise Shell Testudinis/Chinemys Carapax+Plastrum Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Sour; Sweet; Cool LV; KI; HT As Soup: 9-30g; Build Yin; boil before other Hbs are thrown in; Calcined Hb is used in pills/powder (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Ease Spasm: (2) Aid KI; Build KI; Build KI Yin; Build Bone+Sinew/Tendon & Muscle; Boost growth/bone & cartilage in infants; Sexual Hormone Agonist; (3) Oxytocic & Uterus~Tonic; Emmenagogue; Haemostat; Rectify Menstruation; (4) Calm Shen; Build HT; Build Xue; (5) Also: Strengthen Channels; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Antiarteriosclerotic; Hypolipaemic; Immunostimulant; Bacteriostat~B tuberculosis hominis; Boost Metabolism; Anticancer (1) Guiban w Huangbai, Zhimu, Shudihuang, etc in Yin Xu w Fire Shi w fever~hectic, sweat~night, emission~night, vertigo & tinnitus; also Yin Xu Fever w Fluid Consumed/TB & sweat~night; Guiban w Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, Muli, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; (2) Guiban w Hugu, Shudihuang, Baishao, etc in LV Xu & KI Yin Xu w of lowback & waist weak/flaccid, limbs~lower & feet weak/flaccid, Bone & Sinew weak, bone + muscle stiff, delayed ability of standing & walking, delayed growth of teeth & delayed closure of fontanel in infants; infantile metopism, etc; (3) Guiban w Baishao, Huangbai, Chunpi, Xiangfu, etc in Yin Xu w Xue Heat w menorrhagia, metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, leucorrhoea/leukorrhagia, etc; Guiban w Yimucao & Niuxi for oxytocic effect in uterus~atony, parturition delayed, dystocia; (4) Guiban w equal amounts of Longgu, , Shichangpu & Yuanzhi (grind to powder & make pills w water; 3g of pills/time, tid) in Shen Disturbed (mental DysFx) w HT~palpitation, memory~loss, insomnia, etc; CI: Pregnancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haigeke; Haigeqiao; Geqiao ??; Geke ??; Gekefen ???; Haiheke Sea Clamshell Powder/Clam shell Meretricis/Cyclinae Sinensis Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Bitter; salty; cold-Cool LU*; ST*; KI As Soup: 9-15g powder (crushed) in strainer-bag; discard residue; As Powder: 1-3g bid/tid (1) Clear Heat; Clear Phlegm~Cool Hb; Clear Phlegm-Heat; Clear LU Heat; Ease Cough/Calm Asthma in Phlegm Heat; Expectorant; (2) Dissolve Phlegm~stubborn; Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; ; Reduce nodules; Reduce Masses; Reduce Swelling: subcutaneous nodule, scrofula & goitre; (3) Diuretic; Antioedema: (4) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (5) Vulnerary; Heal Wound; Immunostimulant; Antiinflammation; Anticancer (1) Haigeqiao+Haifushi, Baiqian, Sangbaipi, Zhizi, Gualou in Phlegm Heat w asthma, chest~pain & hypochondriac pain, cough sputum~thick yellow; cough in LU Heat w thick & sputum~profuse & dyspnoea; Haigeke w Baiji, Pipaye, etc as oral powder in LU Heat w LU Bleeding; haemoptysis; (2) Haigeke, Haizao+Kunbu, Walengzi, Jiangcan, etc in scrofula, TB, subcutaneous nodule & goitre; tumor; Lymphadenitis; lymph nodules; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (3) Haigeqiao w Fuling, Cheqianzi, Dahuang, Mutong, etc in Fluid Retention w oedema; dysuria; (4) Haigeke + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Haigeqiao w Zhenzhu/Muli, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; Haigeke w Pig LV & Gujingcao in nebula after measles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muli; (See: Duanmuli) Oyster Shell Ostreae Gigas/Talienwhanensis/Rivularis Concha Pulv; Ostraeae Cucullatae Concha/Testa Calm LV Yang Salty; Astringe; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 15-30g (crushed & decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind; Aid Yin; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Reduce excitement; Ease mental instability; Astringe; (2) like other salty materials, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard, Reduce Nodules; Reduce Masses, Reduce Swelling; Resolve Stasis; Resolve Accumulation; Disperse Congestion; (3) Build KI; Astringe KI; Guard Jing; (4) ST~Antacid; Rectify acid secretion; Ease Pain, esp ST~pain; (5) Asringe Wound/ulcer; Antivirus~poliovirus; Immunostimulant; Antifever; Boost Contraction; Anticancer (1) Muli w Shijueming, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Muli w other Calm Shen Hbs like Yejiaoteng, Longgu, Suanzaoren, Yuanzhi, etc in LV Yin Xu, Mind Disturbed w HT~palpitation, fear, terror, vexation, insomnia, etc; LV Yang Rising/LV Yang Shi w LV Wind Rising w convulsion; Febrile Disease w Yin Consumed; Muli + Longchi, Taoren, Chenpi + Huanglian Ejiao Tang wo Huangqin in insomnia in Yin Xu & Yang Shi, w vertigo, headaches, palpatation, letargy, face~pallor/sallow, appetite~poor, mouth dry, sometime urine is dark w faeces~dry, tongue red/light pink wo coat, pulse is stringy & fast/small & fast/floating/slippery; Muli + Longgu, Baishao, Baiwei, Juhua, Gouteng, Xuanshen, etc in LV Yin Xu & Yang Floating of Xu-type w vertigo, Eyesight~blurred, vexation, mania in terror, etc; Muli w Daizheshi, Longgu, Niuxi, Xuanshen in hypertension in LV Yang Shi & headache in spasm of cerebral blood vessels; Muli w Guiban, Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; Muli w Shanzhuyu, Dangshen, Longgu, etc in collapse after sweat~profuse/after chronic disease; Muli w Longgu, Mahuang & Shengdihuang in sweat~night; Muli w Mahuang as Topical powder in sweat~postpartum; (2) Muli w Beimu & Xuanshen (Resolve Scrofula Pill) in Heat/Heat Toxin/Phlegm Fire w Carbuncle; Swelling, dermatitis, skin infection, LU abscess, nodule~subcutaneous, masses/lumps~hard, swelling, scrofula & goitre; (3) Muli w Longgu, Rz/Rx Dioscoreae, Haipiaoxiao, Fuling, etc in KI Xu w enuresis, spermatorrhoea, emission, leucorrhoea, menorrhagia; metrorrhagia, sweat~spontaneous & sweat~night; Muli w Dangshen, Longgu, Sangpiaoxiao, etc in KI Qi Xu /KI Yang Xu w urination~frequent & enuresis, esp infantile enuresis, leukorrhagia; (4) Muli w Baiji in peptic ulcer w ST~pain; ST~Acid Reflux; Muli + another shell (Haigeke, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Muli w Zhenzhu/Haigeqiao, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shijueming Haliotis Shell Powder, Sea-Ear Shell Powder, Abalone Shell Powder Haliotidis Concha Pulv, Haliotidis Diversicoloris/Giganteae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Salty; Cold; Mild LV As Soup: 3-30g crushed & decocted first; Powder: 2-3g bid/tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang, Aid Yin; (2) Clear LV Heat; Clear LV Fire to Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula; Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Ease Spasm; Spasmolytic; (3) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat: ST~pain/ache & reflux; (1) Shijueming w Muli, Baishao, Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, Gouteng, etc Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, causing LV Yang Rising w headache, vertigo, tinnitus, vexation, irritability & insomnia; Shijueming w Xiakucao, Juhua, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Yang Rising (hypertension) w arteriosclerosis, hypertension, headache, irritability, restlessness, fidget, eyes red, mouth~Bitter taste, etc & face flushed & tongue~red w coat~yellow; ; Shijueming w Daizheshi, Xiakucao, Niuxi, etc LV Yang Shi, headache & vertigo; Shijueming w Muli, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Shijueming w Yejuhua, Mudanpi, Rendongteng, etc in hypertension & arteriosclerosis; (2) Shijueming w Yejuhua, Xiakucao, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Fire Rising w restlessness; insomnia; Shijueming w Clear LV Heat Hbs, like Longdancao, Lihui, Gouteng, etc in LV Heat w LV Wind Rising w fever~high & persistent, convulsion, etc; Shijueming w Juhua, Gujincao, Shetui, Xiakucao & Juemingzi, Cangzhu etc in LV Fire/Heat w conjunctivitis; night blindness, nebula*, cataract*, optic atrophy; Another method in optic atrophy is to put Shijueming powder into sheep LV, bind LV w thread, cook LV in a clay pot & eat LV every day (10g/time); Shijueming w Gouqizi & Tusizi in LV Xu w eyesight~blurred; Shijueming as Topical ointment in nebula; (3) Shijueming + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Walengzi; ??Walongzi; (See: Duanwalengzi) Ark Shell Arcae Inflatae/Subcrenatae/Granosae Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Sweet; Salty; Mild LU; ST; LV; SP As Soup: 9-30g (crushed before decocting); Powder: 3-6g bid/tid (1) Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma;; Move Xue Stasis, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Resolve Nodules: (2) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (3) Topical; Other Uses (1) Walengzi w Haizao+Kunbu, Haigeke, Jiangcan, in Phlegm Stasis/Xue Stasis w lumps~hard; nodules~subcutaneous, Lymphadenitis, lymph nodules, abdomen~mass; scrofula, TB, goitre, tumor, etc; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (2) Walengzi (Duanwalengzi is better) 20g/d w Baihe (Zhi (honey baked)) & Gancao (simmer till 300ml Take 100ml/time for 4 weeks) / Duanwalengzi + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST ulcer w Hyperchlorhydria, ST~pain/ache & ST~acid reflux/emesis; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhu; Zhenzhufen ???; (See: Zhenzhumu) Pearl Powder, Margarita Margaritiferae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Sweet; salty; Cold HT; LV Avoid Soup; as pills/powder: 0.1-0.3g/dose; Topical: qs as extremely fine powder by puffing to cover pharyngitis, dress ulcers; for use in eye (1) Calm LV; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind Anticonvulsion; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; (2) Purge LV Heat; Expel Wind; Aid Eyes; Clear Nebula; (3) Clear Toxin; Granulate ulcers~indolent; (1) Zhenzhu alone/w other Calm Shen Hbs in epilepsy, HT~palpitation in fright, acute febrile convulsion~infantile, etc; Zhenzhu w honey in restlessness; panic; (2) Zhenzhu oral/topical (eye drops) w other Aid Eyes Hbs in conjunctivitis, pterygium, nebula; Astringe eye~pain; (3) Zhenzhu w Quicken Xue or Vulnerary Hbs in unhealing ulcers Avoid unless Fire Shi/Heat Stasis are present >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhumu; (See: Zhenzhu); Mother-Of-Pearl, Nacre Margaritiferae/Hyriopsis/Pinctadae Martensii/Cumingii Concha Usta Calm LV Yang Sweet; Salty; Cold LV; HT As Soup: 15-30g (crushed; decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Aid Yin; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Anticonvulsion (2) Aid Yin; Clear LV Fire; Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula/cataract; (3) Rectify ST~acid secretion; ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat; (4) Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Diuretic; (5) Deprive Damp; Astringe; Heal Wounds; (6) Also: Reduce SI-LI tone; (1) Zhenzhumu in Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, irritability; (2) Zhenzhumu as Topical eye ointment in LV Xu w LV Fire/LV Heat w conjunctivitis, blindness~night, eyesight~blurred, Nebula/cataract, keratoleukoma/ Zhenzhumu oral w Baishao, Nuzhenzi, Mimenghua, etc in LV Xu; Zhenzhumu w Mimenghua, Chantui, etc in nebula; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian & Luganshi in conjunctivitis, blepharitis, photophobia, lacrimation, nebula & pterygium; (3) Zhenzhumu Zhenzhumu + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Haigeke, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~peptic ulcer w ST~pain/ache, ST~bleeding, hyperchlorhydria, acid reflux, (4) Zhenzhumu w other Build HT & Calm Shen Hbs + Build Yin Hbs in Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, Shen Disturbed, Fright; HT~palpitation, insomnia, memory~loss; dementia, neurasthenia, mental retardation, oligophrenia~infantile; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian, Zibeichi & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (5) Zhenzhumu as Topical in Wind/Damp/Damp Heat w skin lesions, eczema, prurigo~exudative; Wounds; Zhenzhumu w ?? in LV~hepatitis infectious; (6) Also: SI-LI~hypertonia; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zibeichi; Zibei ?? (??) Arabic Cowrie Shell Mauritiae Arabicae Concha, Cypraeae Concha Calm LV Yang Salty; neutral LV 10-15g/d; Cook before other herbs (1) Calm HT; Calm Shen; (2) Calm LV; Calm LV Yang; Clear LV Heat; Calm Wind; Brighten Eyes; (1) Zibeichi w Huanglian, Zhenzhumu & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (2) Zibeichi w Juhua, Sangye & Gouteng in LV Channel Wind & Heat w eyes~red, swelling & pain/eyesight poor/obstructed; LV Yang Shi w vertigo & headache; Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Thank You , Phil. Excelent compilation. Would love to see more of similar material. --- < wrote: Hi All, Here are my notes on the SHELLS in TCM/CM. MAIN HB CLASSIFICATIONS: The animal shells (Biejia, Guiban) are “Tonic~Build Yin Hbs”. Most mollusc shells [Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhu, Zhenzhumu, Zibeichi] are “Calm LV Yang Hbs”, except Haigeke & Walengzi, which are “Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Hbs”. Please feedback any serious errors that you find here. Best regards, Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Hb Pinyin Name _Hb Common Name _Hb Latin Name _Main Hb Class _Nature _Channels _Dose _Main Actions _Combinations & Uses _Cautions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biejia Turtle Shell Amydae/Trionycis Sinensis Carapax Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 9-30g (decocted first); when used w other Hbs decoct Biejia first (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Clear Heat; Antifever; (2) Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Reduce Swelling; Reduce Masses;: abdomen~mass; LV~enlarged; SP~enlarged. It contains colloid, keratin, iodine & vitamin D. It may inhibit Hyperplasia of connective tissue & Boost Fx of plasma proteins; (3) Also: Antifatigue/Antiexhaustion; LV-Protector; Build LV Yin; Immunostimulant; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Anticancer (1) Steamed Biejia is better to Build Yin/Calm Yang; Biejia w Shengdihuang, Digupi, Zhimu, Qinghao, Qinjiao, Mudanpi & Shanzhuyu etc in Yin Xu w Xu Fire Shi/Xue Heat/Xu Heat, fever~hectic/fever~high at night & subsided in morning & Febrile Disease~late stage w Yin Fluid Consumed & fever~lingering & sweat~night, tongue~red & tongue~dry wo coat/infantile malnutrition w fever; etc; Yin Xu w Heat/Fire Shi & convulsion; Xue Heat~late stage w Heat Attack lingering on Yingfen & fever~night; TB w fever, esp fever~hectic* & sweat~night; Xu w Wind Rising (Wind~Internal) w fever~hectic*/fever~tidal & sweat~night; (2) Cubiejia (vinegared) is better to Soften Hardness in lumps~hard/Hard Masses; malaria~chronic, malaria w SP~enlarged/splenomegaly, amenorrhoea & abdomen~mass, etc; CI: Pregnancy; Caution in Xu & Cold of SJM-SP-ST/w appetite~poor & diarrhoea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guiban; Guibanjia ??? (???); Guijia ?? (??); (See: Cuguijia) Tortise Shell Testudinis/Chinemys Carapax+Plastrum Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Sour; Sweet; Cool LV; KI; HT As Soup: 9-30g; Build Yin; boil before other Hbs are thrown in; Calcined Hb is used in pills/powder (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Ease Spasm: (2) Aid KI; Build KI; Build KI Yin; Build Bone+Sinew/Tendon & Muscle; Boost growth/bone & cartilage in infants; Sexual Hormone Agonist; (3) Oxytocic & Uterus~Tonic; Emmenagogue; Haemostat; Rectify Menstruation; (4) Calm Shen; Build HT; Build Xue; (5) Also: Strengthen Channels; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Antiarteriosclerotic; Hypolipaemic; Immunostimulant; Bacteriostat~B tuberculosis hominis; Boost Metabolism; Anticancer (1) Guiban w Huangbai, Zhimu, Shudihuang, etc in Yin Xu w Fire Shi w fever~hectic, sweat~night, emission~night, vertigo & tinnitus; also Yin Xu Fever w Fluid Consumed/TB & sweat~night; Guiban w Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, Muli, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; (2) Guiban w Hugu, Shudihuang, Baishao, etc in LV Xu & KI Yin Xu w of lowback & waist weak/flaccid, limbs~lower & feet weak/flaccid, Bone & Sinew weak, bone + muscle stiff, delayed ability of standing & walking, delayed growth of teeth & delayed closure of fontanel in infants; infantile metopism, etc; (3) Guiban w Baishao, Huangbai, Chunpi, Xiangfu, etc in Yin Xu w Xue Heat w menorrhagia, metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, leucorrhoea/leukorrhagia, etc; Guiban w Yimucao & Niuxi for oxytocic effect in uterus~atony, parturition delayed, dystocia; (4) Guiban w equal amounts of Longgu, , Shichangpu & Yuanzhi (grind to powder & make pills w water; 3g of pills/time, tid) in Shen Disturbed (mental DysFx) w HT~palpitation, memory~loss, insomnia, etc; CI: Pregnancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haigeke; Haigeqiao; Geqiao ??; Geke ??; Gekefen ???; Haiheke Sea Clamshell Powder/Clam shell Meretricis/Cyclinae Sinensis Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Bitter; salty; cold-Cool LU*; ST*; KI As Soup: 9-15g powder (crushed) in strainer-bag; discard residue; As Powder: 1-3g bid/tid (1) Clear Heat; Clear Phlegm~Cool Hb; Clear Phlegm-Heat; Clear LU Heat; Ease Cough/Calm Asthma in Phlegm Heat; Expectorant; (2) Dissolve Phlegm~stubborn; Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; ; Reduce nodules; Reduce Masses; Reduce Swelling: subcutaneous nodule, scrofula & goitre; (3) Diuretic; Antioedema: (4) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (5) Vulnerary; Heal Wound; Immunostimulant; Antiinflammation; Anticancer (1) Haigeqiao+Haifushi, Baiqian, Sangbaipi, Zhizi, Gualou in Phlegm Heat w asthma, chest~pain & hypochondriac pain, cough sputum~thick yellow; cough in LU Heat w thick & sputum~profuse & dyspnoea; Haigeke w Baiji, Pipaye, etc as oral powder in LU Heat w LU Bleeding; haemoptysis; (2) Haigeke, Haizao+Kunbu, Walengzi, Jiangcan, etc in scrofula, TB, subcutaneous nodule & goitre; tumor; Lymphadenitis; lymph nodules; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (3) Haigeqiao w Fuling, Cheqianzi, Dahuang, Mutong, etc in Fluid Retention w oedema; dysuria; (4) Haigeke + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Haigeqiao w Zhenzhu/Muli, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; Haigeke w Pig LV & Gujingcao in nebula after measles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muli; (See: Duanmuli) Oyster Shell Ostreae Gigas/Talienwhanensis/Rivularis Concha Pulv; Ostraeae Cucullatae Concha/Testa Calm LV Yang Salty; Astringe; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 15-30g (crushed & decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind; Aid Yin; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Reduce excitement; Ease mental instability; Astringe; (2) like other salty materials, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard, Reduce Nodules; Reduce Masses, Reduce Swelling; Resolve Stasis; Resolve Accumulation; Disperse Congestion; (3) Build KI; Astringe KI; Guard Jing; (4) ST~Antacid; Rectify acid secretion; Ease Pain, esp ST~pain; (5) Asringe Wound/ulcer; Antivirus~poliovirus; Immunostimulant; Antifever; Boost Contraction; Anticancer (1) Muli w Shijueming, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Muli w other Calm Shen Hbs like Yejiaoteng, Longgu, Suanzaoren, Yuanzhi, etc in LV Yin Xu, Mind Disturbed w HT~palpitation, fear, terror, vexation, insomnia, etc; LV Yang Rising/LV Yang Shi w LV Wind Rising w convulsion; Febrile Disease w Yin Consumed; Muli + Longchi, Taoren, Chenpi + Huanglian Ejiao Tang wo Huangqin in insomnia in Yin Xu & Yang Shi, w vertigo, headaches, palpatation, letargy, face~pallor/sallow, appetite~poor, mouth dry, sometime urine is dark w faeces~dry, tongue red/light pink wo coat, pulse is stringy & fast/small & fast/floating/slippery; Muli + Longgu, Baishao, Baiwei, Juhua, Gouteng, Xuanshen, etc in LV Yin Xu & Yang Floating of Xu-type w vertigo, Eyesight~blurred, vexation, mania in terror, etc; Muli w Daizheshi, Longgu, Niuxi, Xuanshen in hypertension in LV Yang Shi & headache in spasm of cerebral blood vessels; Muli w Guiban, Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; Muli w Shanzhuyu, Dangshen, Longgu, etc in collapse after sweat~profuse/after chronic disease; Muli w Longgu, Mahuang & Shengdihuang in sweat~night; Muli w Mahuang as Topical powder in sweat~postpartum; (2) Muli w Beimu & Xuanshen (Resolve Scrofula Pill) in Heat/Heat Toxin/Phlegm Fire w Carbuncle; Swelling, dermatitis, skin infection, LU abscess, nodule~subcutaneous, masses/lumps~hard, swelling, scrofula & goitre; (3) Muli w Longgu, Rz/Rx Dioscoreae, Haipiaoxiao, Fuling, etc in KI Xu w enuresis, spermatorrhoea, emission, leucorrhoea, menorrhagia; metrorrhagia, sweat~spontaneous & sweat~night; Muli w Dangshen, Longgu, Sangpiaoxiao, etc in KI Qi Xu /KI Yang Xu w urination~frequent & enuresis, esp infantile enuresis, leukorrhagia; (4) Muli w Baiji in peptic ulcer w ST~pain; ST~Acid Reflux; Muli + another shell (Haigeke, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Muli w Zhenzhu/Haigeqiao, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shijueming Haliotis Shell Powder, Sea-Ear Shell Powder, Abalone Shell Powder Haliotidis Concha Pulv, Haliotidis Diversicoloris/Giganteae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Salty; Cold; Mild LV As Soup: 3-30g crushed & decocted first; Powder: 2-3g bid/tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang, Aid Yin; (2) Clear LV Heat; Clear LV Fire to Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula; Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Ease Spasm; Spasmolytic; (3) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat: ST~pain/ache & reflux; (1) Shijueming w Muli, Baishao, Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, Gouteng, etc Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, causing LV Yang Rising w headache, vertigo, tinnitus, vexation, irritability & insomnia; Shijueming w Xiakucao, Juhua, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Yang Rising (hypertension) w arteriosclerosis, hypertension, headache, irritability, restlessness, fidget, eyes red, mouth~Bitter taste, etc & face flushed & tongue~red w coat~yellow; ; Shijueming w Daizheshi, Xiakucao, Niuxi, etc LV Yang Shi, headache & vertigo; Shijueming w Muli, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Shijueming w Yejuhua, Mudanpi, Rendongteng, etc in hypertension & arteriosclerosis; (2) Shijueming w Yejuhua, Xiakucao, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Fire Rising w restlessness; insomnia; Shijueming w Clear LV Heat Hbs, like Longdancao, Lihui, Gouteng, etc in LV Heat w LV Wind Rising w fever~high & persistent, convulsion, etc; Shijueming w Juhua, Gujincao, Shetui, Xiakucao & Juemingzi, Cangzhu etc in LV Fire/Heat w conjunctivitis; night blindness, nebula*, cataract*, optic atrophy; Another method in optic atrophy is to put Shijueming powder into sheep LV, bind LV w thread, cook LV in a clay pot & eat LV every day (10g/time); Shijueming w Gouqizi & Tusizi in LV Xu w eyesight~blurred; Shijueming as Topical ointment in nebula; (3) Shijueming + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Walengzi; ??Walongzi; (See: Duanwalengzi) Ark Shell Arcae Inflatae/Subcrenatae/Granosae Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Sweet; Salty; Mild LU; ST; LV; SP As Soup: 9-30g (crushed before decocting); Powder: 3-6g bid/tid (1) Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma;; Move Xue Stasis, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Resolve Nodules: (2) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (3) Topical; Other Uses (1) Walengzi w Haizao+Kunbu, Haigeke, Jiangcan, in Phlegm Stasis/Xue Stasis w lumps~hard; nodules~subcutaneous, Lymphadenitis, lymph nodules, abdomen~mass; scrofula, TB, goitre, tumor, etc; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (2) Walengzi (Duanwalengzi is better) 20g/d w Baihe (Zhi (honey baked)) & Gancao (simmer till 300ml Take 100ml/time for 4 weeks) / Duanwalengzi + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST ulcer w Hyperchlorhydria, ST~pain/ache & ST~acid reflux/emesis; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhu; Zhenzhufen ???; (See: Zhenzhumu) Pearl Powder, Margarita Margaritiferae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Sweet; salty; Cold HT; LV Avoid Soup; as pills/powder: 0.1-0.3g/dose; Topical: qs as extremely fine powder by puffing to cover pharyngitis, dress ulcers; for use in eye (1) Calm LV; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind Anticonvulsion; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; (2) Purge LV Heat; Expel Wind; Aid Eyes; Clear Nebula; (3) Clear Toxin; Granulate ulcers~indolent; (1) Zhenzhu alone/w other Calm Shen Hbs in epilepsy, HT~palpitation in fright, acute febrile convulsion~infantile, etc; Zhenzhu w honey in restlessness; panic; (2) Zhenzhu oral/topical (eye drops) w other Aid Eyes Hbs in conjunctivitis, pterygium, nebula; Astringe eye~pain; (3) Zhenzhu w Quicken Xue or Vulnerary Hbs in unhealing ulcers Avoid unless Fire Shi/Heat Stasis are present >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhumu; (See: Zhenzhu); Mother-Of-Pearl, Nacre Margaritiferae/Hyriopsis/Pinctadae Martensii/Cumingii Concha Usta Calm LV Yang Sweet; Salty; Cold LV; HT As Soup: 15-30g (crushed; decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Aid Yin; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Anticonvulsion (2) Aid Yin; Clear LV Fire; Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula/cataract; (3) Rectify ST~acid secretion; ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat; (4) Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Diuretic; (5) Deprive Damp; Astringe; Heal Wounds; (6) Also: Reduce SI-LI tone; (1) Zhenzhumu in Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, irritability; (2) Zhenzhumu as Topical eye ointment in LV Xu w LV Fire/LV Heat w conjunctivitis, blindness~night, eyesight~blurred, Nebula/cataract, keratoleukoma/ Zhenzhumu oral w Baishao, Nuzhenzi, Mimenghua, etc in LV Xu; Zhenzhumu w Mimenghua, Chantui, etc in nebula; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian & Luganshi in conjunctivitis, blepharitis, photophobia, lacrimation, nebula & pterygium; (3) Zhenzhumu Zhenzhumu + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Haigeke, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~peptic ulcer w ST~pain/ache, ST~bleeding, hyperchlorhydria, acid reflux, (4) Zhenzhumu w other Build HT & Calm Shen Hbs + Build Yin Hbs in Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, Shen Disturbed, Fright; HT~palpitation, insomnia, memory~loss; dementia, neurasthenia, mental retardation, oligophrenia~infantile; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian, Zibeichi & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (5) Zhenzhumu as Topical in Wind/Damp/Damp Heat w skin lesions, eczema, prurigo~exudative; Wounds; Zhenzhumu w ?? in LV~hepatitis infectious; (6) Also: SI-LI~hypertonia; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zibeichi; Zibei ?? (??) Arabic Cowrie Shell Mauritiae Arabicae Concha, Cypraeae Concha Calm LV Yang Salty; neutral LV 10-15g/d; Cook before other herbs (1) Calm HT; Calm Shen; (2) Calm LV; Calm LV Yang; Clear LV Heat; Calm Wind; Brighten Eyes; (1) Zibeichi w Huanglian, Zhenzhumu & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (2) Zibeichi w Juhua, Sangye & Gouteng in LV Channel Wind & Heat w eyes~red, swelling & pain/eyesight poor/obstructed; LV Yang Shi w vertigo & headache; Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. 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Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi Everyone, I saw a show on TV last week, which explored the declining populations of native species in Cambodia for use in traditional medicines. It was very disheartening to see the direct connection between local population decline there for certain species of snakes and turtles, and the substances derived from them that I use in treating my patients. While these species are not in danger of worldwide extinction, their numbers are dwindling in particular areas of their range of distribution. This is how extinction begins. My first college degree was in environmental science... so I really get it that our actions have worldwide implications. So, my question in response to this information below, is what can we use to substitute for the wonderful properties of these shells, particularly the turtles? < wrote: Hi All, Here are my notes on the SHELLS in TCM/CM. MAIN HB CLASSIFICATIONS: The animal shells (Biejia, Guiban) are “Tonic~Build Yin Hbs”. Most mollusc shells [Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhu, Zhenzhumu, Zibeichi] are “Calm LV Yang Hbs”, except Haigeke & Walengzi, which are “Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Hbs”. Please feedback any serious errors that you find here. Best regards, Phil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _Hb Pinyin Name _Hb Common Name _Hb Latin Name _Main Hb Class _Nature _Channels _Dose _Main Actions _Combinations & Uses _Cautions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biejia Turtle Shell Amydae/Trionycis Sinensis Carapax Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 9-30g (decocted first); when used w other Hbs decoct Biejia first (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Clear Heat; Antifever; (2) Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Reduce Swelling; Reduce Masses;: abdomen~mass; LV~enlarged; SP~enlarged. It contains colloid, keratin, iodine & vitamin D. It may inhibit Hyperplasia of connective tissue & Boost Fx of plasma proteins; (3) Also: Antifatigue/Antiexhaustion; LV-Protector; Build LV Yin; Immunostimulant; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Anticancer (1) Steamed Biejia is better to Build Yin/Calm Yang; Biejia w Shengdihuang, Digupi, Zhimu, Qinghao, Qinjiao, Mudanpi & Shanzhuyu etc in Yin Xu w Xu Fire Shi/Xue Heat/Xu Heat, fever~hectic/fever~high at night & subsided in morning & Febrile Disease~late stage w Yin Fluid Consumed & fever~lingering & sweat~night, tongue~red & tongue~dry wo coat/infantile malnutrition w fever; etc; Yin Xu w Heat/Fire Shi & convulsion; Xue Heat~late stage w Heat Attack lingering on Yingfen & fever~night; TB w fever, esp fever~hectic* & sweat~night; Xu w Wind Rising (Wind~Internal) w fever~hectic*/fever~tidal & sweat~night; (2) Cubiejia (vinegared) is better to Soften Hardness in lumps~hard/Hard Masses; malaria~chronic, malaria w SP~enlarged/splenomegaly, amenorrhoea & abdomen~mass, etc; CI: Pregnancy; Caution in Xu & Cold of SJM-SP-ST/w appetite~poor & diarrhoea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guiban; Guibanjia ??? (???); Guijia ?? (??); (See: Cuguijia) Tortise Shell Testudinis/Chinemys Carapax+Plastrum Tonic~Build Yin Salty; Sour; Sweet; Cool LV; KI; HT As Soup: 9-30g; Build Yin; boil before other Hbs are thrown in; Calcined Hb is used in pills/powder (1) Tonic/Restorative~Build Yin; Calm Yang; Ease Spasm: (2) Aid KI; Build KI; Build KI Yin; Build Bone+Sinew/Tendon & Muscle; Boost growth/bone & cartilage in infants; Sexual Hormone Agonist; (3) Oxytocic & Uterus~Tonic; Emmenagogue; Haemostat; Rectify Menstruation; (4) Calm Shen; Build HT; Build Xue; (5) Also: Strengthen Channels; Antihypoxia (Boost Hypoxic Tolerance); Antiarteriosclerotic; Hypolipaemic; Immunostimulant; Bacteriostat~B tuberculosis hominis; Boost Metabolism; Anticancer (1) Guiban w Huangbai, Zhimu, Shudihuang, etc in Yin Xu w Fire Shi w fever~hectic, sweat~night, emission~night, vertigo & tinnitus; also Yin Xu Fever w Fluid Consumed/TB & sweat~night; Guiban w Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, Muli, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; (2) Guiban w Hugu, Shudihuang, Baishao, etc in LV Xu & KI Yin Xu w of lowback & waist weak/flaccid, limbs~lower & feet weak/flaccid, Bone & Sinew weak, bone + muscle stiff, delayed ability of standing & walking, delayed growth of teeth & delayed closure of fontanel in infants; infantile metopism, etc; (3) Guiban w Baishao, Huangbai, Chunpi, Xiangfu, etc in Yin Xu w Xue Heat w menorrhagia, metrorrhagia/metrostaxis, leucorrhoea/leukorrhagia, etc; Guiban w Yimucao & Niuxi for oxytocic effect in uterus~atony, parturition delayed, dystocia; (4) Guiban w equal amounts of Longgu, , Shichangpu & Yuanzhi (grind to powder & make pills w water; 3g of pills/time, tid) in Shen Disturbed (mental DysFx) w HT~palpitation, memory~loss, insomnia, etc; CI: Pregnancy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haigeke; Haigeqiao; Geqiao ??; Geke ??; Gekefen ???; Haiheke Sea Clamshell Powder/Clam shell Meretricis/Cyclinae Sinensis Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Bitter; salty; cold-Cool LU*; ST*; KI As Soup: 9-15g powder (crushed) in strainer-bag; discard residue; As Powder: 1-3g bid/tid (1) Clear Heat; Clear Phlegm~Cool Hb; Clear Phlegm-Heat; Clear LU Heat; Ease Cough/Calm Asthma in Phlegm Heat; Expectorant; (2) Dissolve Phlegm~stubborn; Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; ; Reduce nodules; Reduce Masses; Reduce Swelling: subcutaneous nodule, scrofula & goitre; (3) Diuretic; Antioedema: (4) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (5) Vulnerary; Heal Wound; Immunostimulant; Antiinflammation; Anticancer (1) Haigeqiao+Haifushi, Baiqian, Sangbaipi, Zhizi, Gualou in Phlegm Heat w asthma, chest~pain & hypochondriac pain, cough sputum~thick yellow; cough in LU Heat w thick & sputum~profuse & dyspnoea; Haigeke w Baiji, Pipaye, etc as oral powder in LU Heat w LU Bleeding; haemoptysis; (2) Haigeke, Haizao+Kunbu, Walengzi, Jiangcan, etc in scrofula, TB, subcutaneous nodule & goitre; tumor; Lymphadenitis; lymph nodules; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (3) Haigeqiao w Fuling, Cheqianzi, Dahuang, Mutong, etc in Fluid Retention w oedema; dysuria; (4) Haigeke + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Haigeqiao w Zhenzhu/Muli, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; Haigeke w Pig LV & Gujingcao in nebula after measles >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Muli; (See: Duanmuli) Oyster Shell Ostreae Gigas/Talienwhanensis/Rivularis Concha Pulv; Ostraeae Cucullatae Concha/Testa Calm LV Yang Salty; Astringe; Cool LV; KI As Soup: 15-30g (crushed & decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind; Aid Yin; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Reduce excitement; Ease mental instability; Astringe; (2) like other salty materials, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard, Reduce Nodules; Reduce Masses, Reduce Swelling; Resolve Stasis; Resolve Accumulation; Disperse Congestion; (3) Build KI; Astringe KI; Guard Jing; (4) ST~Antacid; Rectify acid secretion; Ease Pain, esp ST~pain; (5) Asringe Wound/ulcer; Antivirus~poliovirus; Immunostimulant; Antifever; Boost Contraction; Anticancer (1) Muli w Shijueming, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Muli w other Calm Shen Hbs like Yejiaoteng, Longgu, Suanzaoren, Yuanzhi, etc in LV Yin Xu, Mind Disturbed w HT~palpitation, fear, terror, vexation, insomnia, etc; LV Yang Rising/LV Yang Shi w LV Wind Rising w convulsion; Febrile Disease w Yin Consumed; Muli + Longchi, Taoren, Chenpi + Huanglian Ejiao Tang wo Huangqin in insomnia in Yin Xu & Yang Shi, w vertigo, headaches, palpatation, letargy, face~pallor/sallow, appetite~poor, mouth dry, sometime urine is dark w faeces~dry, tongue red/light pink wo coat, pulse is stringy & fast/small & fast/floating/slippery; Muli + Longgu, Baishao, Baiwei, Juhua, Gouteng, Xuanshen, etc in LV Yin Xu & Yang Floating of Xu-type w vertigo, Eyesight~blurred, vexation, mania in terror, etc; Muli w Daizheshi, Longgu, Niuxi, Xuanshen in hypertension in LV Yang Shi & headache in spasm of cerebral blood vessels; Muli w Guiban, Tianmendong, Xuanshen, Longgu, etc in Yin Xu & Yang Shi w vertigo & Eyesight~blurred; Guiban w Baishao, Maimendong, Shengdihuang, etc in fever w Yin Xu Heat w muscle spasm & contracture of hand & foot/ Yin Xu w Wind Shi w convulsion; Muli w Shanzhuyu, Dangshen, Longgu, etc in collapse after sweat~profuse/after chronic disease; Muli w Longgu, Mahuang & Shengdihuang in sweat~night; Muli w Mahuang as Topical powder in sweat~postpartum; (2) Muli w Beimu & Xuanshen (Resolve Scrofula Pill) in Heat/Heat Toxin/Phlegm Fire w Carbuncle; Swelling, dermatitis, skin infection, LU abscess, nodule~subcutaneous, masses/lumps~hard, swelling, scrofula & goitre; (3) Muli w Longgu, Rz/Rx Dioscoreae, Haipiaoxiao, Fuling, etc in KI Xu w enuresis, spermatorrhoea, emission, leucorrhoea, menorrhagia; metrorrhagia, sweat~spontaneous & sweat~night; Muli w Dangshen, Longgu, Sangpiaoxiao, etc in KI Qi Xu /KI Yang Xu w urination~frequent & enuresis, esp infantile enuresis, leukorrhagia; (4) Muli w Baiji in peptic ulcer w ST~pain; ST~Acid Reflux; Muli + another shell (Haigeke, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; Haigeke w Baiji, etc in ST Bleeding; haematemesis, ST~ulcer/SI~duodenal ulcer; (5) Muli w Zhenzhu/Haigeqiao, Jixuecao, Baishao (/Moyao, Ruxiang), as Topical in wound~indolent & skin ulcer; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shijueming Haliotis Shell Powder, Sea-Ear Shell Powder, Abalone Shell Powder Haliotidis Concha Pulv, Haliotidis Diversicoloris/Giganteae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Salty; Cold; Mild LV As Soup: 3-30g crushed & decocted first; Powder: 2-3g bid/tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang, Aid Yin; (2) Clear LV Heat; Clear LV Fire to Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula; Calm LV~Calm Wind~Internal; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Ease Spasm; Spasmolytic; (3) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat: ST~pain/ache & reflux; (1) Shijueming w Muli, Baishao, Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, Gouteng, etc Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, causing LV Yang Rising w headache, vertigo, tinnitus, vexation, irritability & insomnia; Shijueming w Xiakucao, Juhua, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Yang Rising (hypertension) w arteriosclerosis, hypertension, headache, irritability, restlessness, fidget, eyes red, mouth~Bitter taste, etc & face flushed & tongue~red w coat~yellow; ; Shijueming w Daizheshi, Xiakucao, Niuxi, etc LV Yang Shi, headache & vertigo; Shijueming w Muli, Baishao & Shengdihuang, Nuzhenzi, Juhua, Niuxi, etc in Yin Xu /LV Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, Shen Disturbed, irritability & insomnia; excitement; mental instability; Shijueming w Yejuhua, Mudanpi, Rendongteng, etc in hypertension & arteriosclerosis; (2) Shijueming w Yejuhua, Xiakucao, Huangqin, etc in LV Yang Shi/LV Fire Rising w restlessness; insomnia; Shijueming w Clear LV Heat Hbs, like Longdancao, Lihui, Gouteng, etc in LV Heat w LV Wind Rising w fever~high & persistent, convulsion, etc; Shijueming w Juhua, Gujincao, Shetui, Xiakucao & Juemingzi, Cangzhu etc in LV Fire/Heat w conjunctivitis; night blindness, nebula*, cataract*, optic atrophy; Another method in optic atrophy is to put Shijueming powder into sheep LV, bind LV w thread, cook LV in a clay pot & eat LV every day (10g/time); Shijueming w Gouqizi & Tusizi in LV Xu w eyesight~blurred; Shijueming as Topical ointment in nebula; (3) Shijueming + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~pain/ache & acid reflux; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Walengzi; ??Walongzi; (See: Duanwalengzi) Ark Shell Arcae Inflatae/Subcrenatae/Granosae Concha Pulv Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma~Clear Phlegm Sweet; Salty; Mild LU; ST; LV; SP As Soup: 9-30g (crushed before decocting); Powder: 3-6g bid/tid (1) Clear Phlegm+Ease Cough/Calm Asthma;; Move Xue Stasis, Soften Hardness in lumps~hard; Resolve Nodules: (2) ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; (3) Topical; Other Uses (1) Walengzi w Haizao+Kunbu, Haigeke, Jiangcan, in Phlegm Stasis/Xue Stasis w lumps~hard; nodules~subcutaneous, Lymphadenitis, lymph nodules, abdomen~mass; scrofula, TB, goitre, tumor, etc; As Soup in swelling & pain of testis; (2) Walengzi (Duanwalengzi is better) 20g/d w Baihe (Zhi (honey baked)) & Gancao (simmer till 300ml Take 100ml/time for 4 weeks) / Duanwalengzi + another shell (Haigeke, Muli, Shijueming, Zhenzhumu, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST ulcer w Hyperchlorhydria, ST~pain/ache & ST~acid reflux/emesis; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhu; Zhenzhufen ???; (See: Zhenzhumu) Pearl Powder, Margarita Margaritiferae Concha Pulv Calm LV Yang Sweet; salty; Cold HT; LV Avoid Soup; as pills/powder: 0.1-0.3g/dose; Topical: qs as extremely fine powder by puffing to cover pharyngitis, dress ulcers; for use in eye (1) Calm LV; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Expel Wind Anticonvulsion; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; (2) Purge LV Heat; Expel Wind; Aid Eyes; Clear Nebula; (3) Clear Toxin; Granulate ulcers~indolent; (1) Zhenzhu alone/w other Calm Shen Hbs in epilepsy, HT~palpitation in fright, acute febrile convulsion~infantile, etc; Zhenzhu w honey in restlessness; panic; (2) Zhenzhu oral/topical (eye drops) w other Aid Eyes Hbs in conjunctivitis, pterygium, nebula; Astringe eye~pain; (3) Zhenzhu w Quicken Xue or Vulnerary Hbs in unhealing ulcers Avoid unless Fire Shi/Heat Stasis are present >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zhenzhumu; (See: Zhenzhu); Mother-Of-Pearl, Nacre Margaritiferae/Hyriopsis/Pinctadae Martensii/Cumingii Concha Usta Calm LV Yang Sweet; Salty; Cold LV; HT As Soup: 15-30g (crushed; decocted first); Powder: 2-3g tid; Topical: qs (1) Calm LV; Calm Yang; Calm LV Yang; Aid Yin; Expel Wind; Expel LV Wind; Anticonvulsion (2) Aid Yin; Clear LV Fire; Aid Eyes/Sight; Clear Nebula/cataract; (3) Rectify ST~acid secretion; ST~Antacid; Ease Pain; Haemostat; (4) Build HT; Calm HT; Calm Fright; Calm Shen~Heavy Settler; Diuretic; (5) Deprive Damp; Astringe; Heal Wounds; (6) Also: Reduce SI-LI tone; (1) Zhenzhumu in Yin Xu w Yang Shi/LV Yang Shi w vertigo, headache, tinnitus, irritability; (2) Zhenzhumu as Topical eye ointment in LV Xu w LV Fire/LV Heat w conjunctivitis, blindness~night, eyesight~blurred, Nebula/cataract, keratoleukoma/ Zhenzhumu oral w Baishao, Nuzhenzi, Mimenghua, etc in LV Xu; Zhenzhumu w Mimenghua, Chantui, etc in nebula; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian & Luganshi in conjunctivitis, blepharitis, photophobia, lacrimation, nebula & pterygium; (3) Zhenzhumu Zhenzhumu + another shell (Muli, Shijueming, Haigeke, Duanwalengzi), Haipiaoxiao, Laifuzi, Tanxiang, Wuzhuyu, Xiangfu in ST~peptic ulcer w ST~pain/ache, ST~bleeding, hyperchlorhydria, acid reflux, (4) Zhenzhumu w other Build HT & Calm Shen Hbs + Build Yin Hbs in Yin Xu w LV Yang Shi, Shen Disturbed, Fright; HT~palpitation, insomnia, memory~loss; dementia, neurasthenia, mental retardation, oligophrenia~infantile; Zhenzhumu w Huanglian, Zibeichi & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (5) Zhenzhumu as Topical in Wind/Damp/Damp Heat w skin lesions, eczema, prurigo~exudative; Wounds; Zhenzhumu w ?? in LV~hepatitis infectious; (6) Also: SI-LI~hypertonia; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zibeichi; Zibei ?? (??) Arabic Cowrie Shell Mauritiae Arabicae Concha, Cypraeae Concha Calm LV Yang Salty; neutral LV 10-15g/d; Cook before other herbs (1) Calm HT; Calm Shen; (2) Calm LV; Calm LV Yang; Clear LV Heat; Calm Wind; Brighten Eyes; (1) Zibeichi w Huanglian, Zhenzhumu & Lingyangjiao in HT Disturbed & Shen Disturbed w HT~Palpitation, irritability, insomnia, sleep~dream-disturbed; fever~high w convulsion~infantile; (2) Zibeichi w Juhua, Sangye & Gouteng in LV Channel Wind & Heat w eyes~red, swelling & pain/eyesight poor/obstructed; LV Yang Shi w vertigo & headache; Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. 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Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 On Jan 28, 2004, at 10:56 AM, wrote: > So, my question in response to this information below, is what can we > use to substitute for the wonderful properties of these shells, > particularly the turtles? Perhaps our suppliers can favor those turtles that are farmed? This could end up looking like the trend nowadays in the states toward " free-range " and " hormone free " livestock. We, the consumers make choices that affect the suppliers, etc... -- Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional. -Adlai Stevenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi All, & Hi Andrea Beth, I am cross-posting this to CHA and VBMA. I ask colleagues who have really effective substitutes for ANIMAL ingredients to contact me offlist. I will coordinate the replies and compile them into a file of " substitutes for animal sources of herbal remedies " , which I will make available to the lists later. Andrea Beth wrote: > I saw a show on TV last week, which explored the declining > populations of native species in Cambodia for use in traditional > medicines. It was very disheartening to see the direct connection > between local population decline there for certain species of > snakes and turtles, and the substances derived from them that I > use in treating my patients. While these species are not in > danger of worldwide extinction, their numbers are dwindling in > particular areas of their range of distribution. This is how > extinction begins. My first college degree was in environmental > science... so I really get it that our actions have worldwide > implications. So, my question in response to this information > below, is what can we use to substitute for the wonderful > properties of these shells, particularly the turtles? Andrea Beth > Damsky, L.Ac. Andrea Beth, your question can be widened to go far beyond snakes and turtles. A sister-list [VBMA - Vet Med Botanical Assoc] has a similar thread - what can we do to avoid the use of ANIMAL sources of herbal remedies, and not just the endangered species? Substitutes can be found for some animal products. However, others have such unique and clinically useful properties that it may not be possible to find equally potent substitutes for them. For example, what herbs would substitute effectively for Quanxie- Scorpion, Wugong-Centipede, Lurong-Deerhorn, Wushe-Zaocys, etc? Attilio posted a wider question earlier about the impossibility of meeting international demand for herbal ingredients if we must rely on wild (naturally grown) stocks. Demand is so huge now that most herbs on sale are cultivated on specialist herb-growing farms. One might ask if such herbs are as potent (or have even the same basic actions) as their wild cousins? I have no answers to these questions but I accept that herb-farming (artificial cultivation) is the only possible answer in the short-term. As to substitutes for animal ingredients, I await your suggestions off-list. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Andrea Beth and Phil, I've also struggled with these issues for some time. I think these issues are now understood more widely in our profession, especially in the West, and I hope that we will come up with some answers to these problems. My own solution is to use plant medicines as much as possible, avoid endangered species as much as possible, and to seek for substitutes that may be used now or in the future. With the turtle issue, apparently turtles have almost disappeared from their natural habitat in a preserve in Yunnan Province, China. However, most of the turtles are being poached for their meat as a health food, not for their shells for herbal medicine. On Jan 28, 2004, at 1:42 PM, wrote: > I am cross-posting this to CHA and VBMA. I ask colleagues who > have really effective substitutes for ANIMAL ingredients to contact > me offlist. I will coordinate the replies and compile them into a file > of " substitutes for animal sources of herbal remedies " , which I will > make available to the lists later. > > Andrea Beth wrote: >> I saw a show on TV last week, which explored the declining >> populations of native species in Cambodia for use in traditional >> medicines. It was very disheartening to see the direct connection >> between local population decline there for certain species of >> snakes and turtles, and the substances derived from them that I >> use in treating my patients. While these species are not in >> danger of worldwide extinction, their numbers are dwindling in >> particular areas of their range of distribution. This is how >> extinction begins. My first college degree was in environmental >> science... so I really get it that our actions have worldwide >> implications. So, my question in response to this information >> below, is what can we use to substitute for the wonderful >> properties of these shells, particularly the turtles? Andrea Beth >> Damsky, L.Ac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Hi All, & Hi Andrea Beth, I am cross-posting this to CHA and VBMA. I ask colleagues who have really effective substitutes for ANIMAL ingredients to contact me offlist. I will coordinate the replies and compile them into a file of " substitutes for animal sources of herbal remedies " , which I will make available to the lists later. Andrea Beth wrote: > I saw a show on TV last week, which explored the declining > populations of native species in Cambodia for use in traditional > medicines. It was very disheartening to see the direct connection > between local population decline there for certain species of > snakes and turtles, and the substances derived from them that I > use in treating my patients. While these species are not in > danger of worldwide extinction, their numbers are dwindling in > particular areas of their range of distribution. This is how > extinction begins. My first college degree was in environmental > science... so I really get it that our actions have worldwide > implications. So, my question in response to this information > below, is what can we use to substitute for the wonderful > properties of these shells, particularly the turtles? Andrea Beth > Damsky, L.Ac. Andrea Beth, your question can be widened to go far beyond snakes and turtles. A sister-list [VBMA - Vet Med Botanical Assoc] has a similar thread - what can we do to avoid the use of ANIMAL sources of herbal remedies, and not just the endangered species? Substitutes can be found for some animal products. However, others have such unique and clinically useful properties that it may not be possible to find equally potent substitutes for them. For example, what herbs would substitute effectively for Quanxie- Scorpion, Wugong-Centipede, Lurong-Deerhorn, Wushe-Zaocys, etc? Attilio posted a wider question earlier about the impossibility of meeting international demand for herbal ingredients if we must rely on wild (naturally grown) stocks. Demand is so huge now that most herbs on sale are cultivated on specialist herb-growing farms. One might ask if such herbs are as potent (or have even the same basic actions) as their wild cousins? I have no answers to these questions but I accept that herb-farming (artificial cultivation) is the only possible answer in the short-term. As to substitutes for animal ingredients, I await your suggestions off-list. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 This is a laudable exercise. Thank you Phil. I wonder if the same can be done for other endangered species, and for products that cause unnecessary suffering (for example farming and extraction of bear gall) ? That I would like to hear about. Cheers, Sammy. [] 28 January 2004 21:42 Chinese Medicine Cc: ; vBMA Re: Notes on properties of Shells in TCM Hi All, & Hi Andrea Beth, I am cross-posting this to CHA and VBMA. I ask colleagues who have really effective substitutes for ANIMAL ingredients to contact me offlist. I will coordinate the replies and compile them into a file of " substitutes for animal sources of herbal remedies " , which I will make available to the lists later. Andrea Beth wrote: > I saw a show on TV last week, which explored the declining > populations of native species in Cambodia for use in traditional > medicines. It was very disheartening to see the direct connection > between local population decline there for certain species of > snakes and turtles, and the substances derived from them that I > use in treating my patients. While these species are not in > danger of worldwide extinction, their numbers are dwindling in > particular areas of their range of distribution. This is how > extinction begins. My first college degree was in environmental > science... so I really get it that our actions have worldwide > implications. So, my question in response to this information > below, is what can we use to substitute for the wonderful > properties of these shells, particularly the turtles? Andrea Beth > Damsky, L.Ac. Andrea Beth, your question can be widened to go far beyond snakes and turtles. A sister-list [VBMA - Vet Med Botanical Assoc] has a similar thread - what can we do to avoid the use of ANIMAL sources of herbal remedies, and not just the endangered species? Substitutes can be found for some animal products. However, others have such unique and clinically useful properties that it may not be possible to find equally potent substitutes for them. For example, what herbs would substitute effectively for Quanxie- Scorpion, Wugong-Centipede, Lurong-Deerhorn, Wushe-Zaocys, etc? Attilio posted a wider question earlier about the impossibility of meeting international demand for herbal ingredients if we must rely on wild (naturally grown) stocks. Demand is so huge now that most herbs on sale are cultivated on specialist herb-growing farms. One might ask if such herbs are as potent (or have even the same basic actions) as their wild cousins? I have no answers to these questions but I accept that herb-farming (artificial cultivation) is the only possible answer in the short-term. As to substitutes for animal ingredients, I await your suggestions off-list. Best regards, Email: < WORK : Teagasc Research Management, Sandymount Ave., Dublin 4, Ireland Mobile: 353-; [in the Republic: 0] HOME : 1 Esker Lawns, Lucan, Dublin, Ireland Tel : 353-; [in the Republic: 0] WWW : http://homepage.eircom.net/~progers/searchap.htm Membership requires that you do not post any commerical, swear, religious, spam messages,flame another member or swear. To change your email settings, i.e. individually, daily digest or none, visit the groups homepage: Chinese Medicine/ click edit my membership' on the right hand side and adjust accordingly. To send an email to <Chinese Medicine- > from the email account you joined with. You will be removed automatically but will still recieve messages for a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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