YinYang pulse

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Thank's a lot Chris!

I am really greatful

 

I have myself used the pulsediagnosis for some time

learned it from Dr. Dieter Scmidt in Germany

who studied OM for 4 years in Korea

and studied for Yoo and for his korean teachers

 

When used in combination with the fast pulse balancing treatment it is

fabulous. I will translate my materials to english and see if I can make it

available to those of you who are interested

Mail me of list if you are

 

Holger

 

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> Datum: 24 Jan 2004 14:50:07 -0000

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> Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:37:10 -0800

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> Re: Puls mentioned in Nei Jing

>

> On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:53:08 Holger Wendt <holger.wendt wrote:

>

>> I wonder if you who have studied the Nei Jing can confirm if it mentions a

>> pulse diagnostic method using two points in comparison, one located at ST-9

>> and the uther at LU-9.

>

> One place is at the end of SuWen, Chapter 9 Here is the passage (in

> quotation marks is my word-for-word translation; out of quotation marks is

> paraphrased from comparing two published translations)::

>

> " Cause [of] RenYing [st9] 1-times abundant [or flourishing or raging],

> disease is ShaoYang; 2-times abundant, disease is TaiYang; 3-times

> abundant, disease is YangMing; 4-times abundant " is Yang escaping /

> rejected, not communicating with Yin.

>

> " CunKou [Lu9] 1-times abundant, disease is JueYin; 2-times abundant,

> disease is ShaoYin; 3-times abundant, disease is TaiYin; 4-times abundant " ,

> Yin is collapsed / closed, can't communicate with Yang.

>

> RenYing and CunKou both 4-times abundant, is " guan ke " , obstructed; heaven

> and earth, pre- and post-natal JingQi are in a bad way -- death.

>

> <end of passage>

>

> One translation (by MaoShing Ni) interprets this as " When the carotid pulse

> is twice as large as normal, ....when the radial pulse is twice as large as

> normal... " The other translation (that I have at hand, by Andrew Wu and his

> father) interprets it as " When the RenYing pulse ... [is] one fold greater

> than the CunKou pulse.... When the CunKou pulse is one fold greater then

> the RenYing pulse.... "

>

> Note the major difference of interpretation here. Also that the original

> text (Wang Bing edition) does not explicitly state comparison of carotid

> and radial pulses. On the other hand, I think I have seen other

> translations or renditions interpreting this passage as comparing the two

> pulse locations.

>

> What does the text really say? (Or what was originally intended?) I'm a

> relative beginner at studying the NeiJing, and can't say one way or the

> other. Also there may be other passages in the NeiJing (SuWen) or in the

> ZhenJing (LingShu) which are more explicit. I'm not familiar with the whole

> books yet, and just happen to have recently read this chapter of SuWen.

>

>> the method is used widely in Korean Hand Acupuncture to asses system excess

>> and to verify the treatment.

>

> I do know that Dr. Tae-Woo Yoo, the author of KHT, back ca. 1972, also

> re-created a NeiJing carotid-radial pulse comparison technique in the

> 1990s, called " Yin-Yang Pulse diagnosis " . The passage quoted above is

> certainly based on Yin-Yang.

>

> Dan Lobash, who teaches and otherwise promotes KHT in the USA, once sent me

> an article (in translation) by Dr. Yoo on this pulse system, which would

> take me a while to dig out of my chaotic archives. The web site of Dan's

> company (http://www.khtsystems.com/) mentions the pulse method a couple of

> times.

>

> I'm not promoting KHT here, just pointing out sources.

>

> The NeiJing translations referred to above, by MaoShing Ni, and by Nelson

> and Andrew Wu, can be readily located on-line at Amazon.com (and probably

> at .co.uk or .de).

>

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