Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 My mother, who has been involved in the construction industry in New York City for over 2 decades, is visiting NYC at the moment. She and her boyfriend received the special authorization to go into WTC Ground Zero yesterday (yes into the whole disaster/recovery/cleanup site, right there where they collapsed!) Both of them told me how it is impossible to grasp the magnitude of this from T.V., or even from a few blocks away. They told me how being right there was more than words can describe. How every time a crane picks up debris, black smoke comes billowing out of the ground, how shards of Trade Towers sliced through surrounding buildings, not to mention their blown out windows, destroyed facades, caved in roofs, etc. Words cannot describe just how MUCH devastation there still is, all around the whole area, even after all the work that has already been done. My mom's friend, who has been on site since day one, told them of the unimaginable horror of the first week (and after that even), spending days finding only parts of airplanes and people! The overwhelming stench of death has finally begun to dissipate and change to a scent of burning plastics and metal. They were both completely heart broken! Their souls are enraged! And both of them are feeling now, more so than ever, that the folks who believe US Policies brought this upon ourselves, or that simply negotiation with disgruntled folks is what is called for .. they should go there, stand in the middle of that and try to say those words (and hopefully get hit with a lightning bolt of reality if they do!) *Hugs* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleofactory.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 *hugs* to your mother & friend, Chris. I think that those of us who are far away need these occasional reminders of how real this still is, & how heartbreaking. I was stunned the other day when I saw how much the area is still smoking - it's easy to think it's a past event when we don't see it on the news each night anymore. *hugs* Jane :-)) Christine Ziegler wrote: > My mother, who has been involved in the construction industry in New > York City for over 2 decades, is visiting NYC at the moment. She and her > boyfriend received the special authorization to go into WTC Ground Zero > yesterday (yes into the whole disaster/recovery/cleanup site, right > there where they collapsed!) Both of them told me how it is impossible > to grasp the magnitude of this from T.V., or even from a few blocks > away. They told me how being right there was more than words can > describe. How every time a crane picks up debris, black smoke comes > billowing out of the ground, how shards of Trade Towers sliced through > surrounding buildings, not to mention their blown out windows, destroyed > facades, caved in roofs, etc. Words cannot describe just how MUCH > devastation there still is, all around the whole area, even after all > the work that has already been done. My mom's friend, who has been on > site since day one, told them of the unimaginable horror of the first > week (and after that even), spending days finding only parts of > airplanes and people! The overwhelming stench of death has finally begun > to dissipate and change to a scent of burning plastics and metal. They > were both completely heart broken! Their souls are enraged! And both of > them are feeling now, more so than ever, that the folks who believe US > Policies brought this upon ourselves, or that simply negotiation with > disgruntled folks is what is called for .. they should go there, stand > in the middle of that and try to say those words (and hopefully get hit > with a lightning bolt of reality if they do!) > > *Hugs* > Chris (list mom) > http://www.alittleofactory.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Hi Chris, We have more than one friend that's gone thru what your Mom and her boyfriend just went through- - and talked to them - one lives about 5 miles from it all; the other 3 miles; another takes the ferry over from the Island and one drives a bus. You are right-- there are no words, but tears come thru loud and clear over the phone as do shock and anger. Personally, and this is 'just' my opinion - I'd love to see the crowds of peace marchers having to do some time at the clean-up; right there, up close.......and those who burned our flag, send them as well. Take them around to the little corner grocery stores a few blocks down and various other places - that " still " have and have had since 09/11, lists, ever added to, of those in their " own " neighborhood that are listed among the missing. Tell them not to take deep breaths since the asbestos and other things in the air are way over what any of them should be breathing. Then take them to one of the area hospitals where firefighters, rescue workers and police are .............having had lung damage or breathing problems from it all, and let them tell how they'd go back in a minute. Then ask them if " they'd " like to volunteer to " Negotiate " with people who have absolutely no regard for life of any kind, theirs or others.. And tell them not to be afraid, horrified, hurt or shocked. Tell them that maybe next time it'll be in " their " backyard - cuz who knows, maybe it will.........and tell them also that when a plane crashes into their neighborhood or a car bomb goes off, or their local post office is closed for anthrax, that maybe they should have " just negotiated " . And whether or not our thoughts and policies of " It'll never happen here " helped to bring it on - who cares? It happened - these are NOT people to simply talk to, give in to... etc... hell, they aren't even people! People have hearts and souls; love and pride in our country. A lightning bolt strike them? Oh, that's far too quick and easy...........Even here, where we don't have much of a firefighting force at all-- <we get help from caring folks all over when there's been a big fire here like the one in '98> ( I wasn't here for it) four of our firefighters were there helping in the search and rescue - doesn't sound like much, I know, but when you don't have any to spare, four is a lot. I know people don't like to hear the word War ........but War was declared on US when our lives were forever changed on 911. Our thoughts and prayers to your Mom and her boyfriend.......and to you too, Chris, that was/is your home. Hugs, Marilyn Christine Ziegler wrote: > My mother, who has been involved in the construction industry in New > York City for over 2 decades, is visiting NYC at the moment. She and her > boyfriend received the special authorization to go into WTC Ground Zero > yesterday (yes into the whole disaster/recovery/cleanup site, right > there where they collapsed!) Both of them told me how it is impossible > to grasp the magnitude of this from T.V., or even from a few blocks > away. They told me how being right there was more than words can > describe. How every time a crane picks up debris, black smoke comes > billowing out of the ground, how shards of Trade Towers sliced through > surrounding buildings, not to mention their blown out windows, destroyed > facades, caved in roofs, etc. Words cannot describe just how MUCH > devastation there still is, all around the whole area, even after all > the work that has already been done. My mom's friend, who has been on > site since day one, told them of the unimaginable horror of the first > week (and after that even), spending days finding only parts of > airplanes and people! The overwhelming stench of death has finally begun > to dissipate and change to a scent of burning plastics and metal. They > were both completely heart broken! Their souls are enraged! And both of > them are feeling now, more so than ever, that the folks who believe US > Policies brought this upon ourselves, or that simply negotiation with > disgruntled folks is what is called for .. they should go there, stand > in the middle of that and try to say those words (and hopefully get hit > with a lightning bolt of reality if they do!) > > *Hugs* > Chris (list mom) > http://www.alittleofactory.com > > > My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Thank you Marilyn. *Hugs* Chris (list mom) http://www.alittleolfactory.com Marilyn Nicholson wrote: >....... >Our thoughts and prayers to your Mom and her boyfriend.......and to you too, >Chris, that was/is your home. > >Hugs, > >Marilyn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2001 Report Share Posted November 7, 2001 Chris & All.. My heart goes out to your mom and friend. I am a firefighter myself. Even I cannot fathom the magnitude of destruction that is at Ground Zero. I think of the worst case that I have seen and multiply it by a zillion. I imagine that there will be smoke for quite a while. I have seen houses smoke for a week after a fire, so two buildings of that size will take a long time to burn out. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think of all the lives that were lost and my heart goes out to all of my "brothers & sisters" whose lives were lost or have to sift through the rubble finding more "brothers & sisters" The brotherhood of firefighters is a close family and even though I don't know these brothers & sisters personally, I cry for them. On 9-11 when I saw the first building collapse my first thought was "Oh, Dear God, all of those firefighters that were down there!!!" My kids cried, I cried, my hubby cried. I get angry everytime I think of this and so I had better go and relax. :0( LindaRed Barn Enterpriseshttp://www.geocities.com/redbarnenterprisesCandles & Metal Home Decor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 It is very hard to visualize the destruction and the area it covers. I, too, pray for you, your Mom and boyfriend and all the others that have been so tragically hit by all this. I can't imagine your feelings, Chris, just know I and thinking about you and you are all in my daily prayers. As far as the demonstrators--what goes around comes around. To me it is a bunch of idiots that should be shipped to the Taliban. Then we could see just how 'peaceful' they would feel. Blessings and love, Effie Christine Ziegler <chrisziggy1 Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM Re: At WTC Ground Zero >Thank you Marilyn. >*Hugs* >Chris (list mom) >http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > >Marilyn Nicholson wrote: > >>....... >>Our thoughts and prayers to your Mom and her boyfriend.......and to you too, >>Chris, that was/is your home. >> >>Hugs, >> >>Marilyn >> > > > > >My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey >http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2001 Report Share Posted November 8, 2001 Hi Effie, Chris... Yep, ship em to the Taliban, with big flourescent bows on so nobody'll miss seeing them! Hugs, Marilyn Effie Humburg wrote: > It is very hard to visualize the destruction and the area it covers. I, > too, pray for you, your Mom and boyfriend and all the others that have been > so tragically hit by all this. I can't imagine your feelings, Chris, just > know I and thinking about you and you are all in my daily prayers. As far > as the demonstrators--what goes around comes around. To me it is a bunch of > idiots that should be shipped to the Taliban. Then we could see just how > 'peaceful' they would feel. > > Blessings and love, > > Effie > > > Christine Ziegler <chrisziggy1 > > Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:24 AM > Re: At WTC Ground Zero > > >Thank you Marilyn. > >*Hugs* > >Chris (list mom) > >http://www.alittleolfactory.com > > > > > >Marilyn Nicholson wrote: > > > >>....... > >>Our thoughts and prayers to your Mom and her boyfriend.......and to you > too, > >>Chris, that was/is your home. > >> > >>Hugs, > >> > >>Marilyn > >> > > > > > > > > > >My Pictures of Aromatic Plants and Exotic Places In Turkey > >http://members.home.net/chrisziggy1/triptoturkey.html > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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