Guest guest Posted October 28, 2007 Report Share Posted October 28, 2007 Green tea! I do not have diabetes nevertheless I drink Stash lemon ginger green tea, iced. There are plenty of other teas. Oh, I do use stevia. Plus there are flavored waters but you want to watch the sodium and artificial sweetener. HTH Denise > My husband has a type of diabetes where he is supposed to control it > w/diet. He says he won't drink orange juice in the morning because it > turns to sugar, and if he is eating something like grits or bread, he > needs to be sure not to have too many carbs or bad things all at once. So, > he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad > for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he > should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. > He is not fond of milk. So, what is left? > > Marsha and the Yorkies > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 There is a very big misconseption about what causes in increase in glucose levels in Type 2 diabetics, Sugar plays a very small part in this. The new studies strongly suggest that FAT is the leading cause of the insuiln resistance which is responsible for DM2. Remember anything and everything you eat converts to a form of sugar. This gives us our energy. When we eat too much fat in excessive amount particularly, Sulfur based amino-acids in the form of animal proteins, that are loaded with saturated fats, these fats wrap around the insulin receptors of the cells and and will not allow insulin to " open " the cell to allow the needed sugar in, this sugar then winds up in the blood stream and will cause high glucose levels. As a diabetic, a little sugar won't hurt, but, stay clear of animal protiens and " Sugar-Free " products, they are loaded with tons of fat. Hope this advise helps In Good Health....Naturally Dr. Scott B. Raphael,N.D. Robert <antiqmon2004 wrote: , " Miracle Yorkies " <miracleyorkies wrote: > > My husband has a type of diabetes where he is supposed to control it w/diet. He says he won't drink orange juice in the morning because it turns to sugar, and if he is eating something like grits or bread, he needs to be sure not to have too many carbs or bad things all at once. So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. He is not fond of milk. So, what is left? > > Marsha and the Yorkies > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Michelle wrote: <So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. He is not fond of milk. So, what is left?> Your husband is lucky he has you to look out for him! You are so right, diet soda is pure poison. What else is there to drink? Does he prefer cold drinks? How does he feel about cold herbal teas, sweetened with Stevia? Try to make some, stick it in the fridge in a nice carafe ready to go, its worth a try. Colorful teas like that old standby " Red Zinger " , or Rooibos, look nice in a glass. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thanks Jean He doesn't like tea either. He will drink unsweetened tea, cold, but has to have an artificial sweetner in it. It is a real battle trying to find something for him to drink. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thanks Robert for your answer, glad to hear we are not the only ones struggling with this choice, sounds like you at least have a better option, mixing it w/water. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Hi! I've been diabetic for 16 years. I used to drink alot of diet soda until I found out what aspartame does in the body! It turns into formaldehyde! Some kind of reaction during processing in the liver. Splenda is no better and is *NOT* the same as natural suger!! I avoid all artificial sweetners like the plague (that they indeed are). I drink herbal tea (hot or iced). I have one of those MrCoffee Iced tea makers and in about 5 minutes, I have iced tea. I use 4 of the celestial seasoning bags in there to make 3 qts. There are so many flavors and most of them dont need any sweetner but when I do use a sweetner, its Stevia. When I *really* want soda, I drink Canada Dry flavored seltzer water. It is not sweet, just a fruit flavor. I like the orange and the lemon lime the best. For an all natural soda, I fill a glass 3/4 full with *plain* (unflavored) seltzer and fill the rest of the way with fruit juice (your favorite flavor), you can adjust the juice according to the sweetness you want. Whew, longer than I expected to ramble ....hope this helps! ~Namaste~ Rayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Marsha, I have one tea suggestion that your husband might find more appealing if he does not like the fruity or flowery ones. I have been drinking herbal teas most of my life and one day decided to try the Earl Grey because of the reference to it on Star Trek. It was the captain's favorite tea. He seemed to enjoy it. I found that I really like it more than my fruity and flower ones I still drink. It has a unique taste that I find appealing. Now be advised it is black tea and the regular Earl Grey has caffeine, but it does come in decaf. I also can not drink tea without some kind of sweetner (even fake) in it. I have turned to honey which I don't think is so good for diabetics. It still has a high sugar content. My dad has his diabeties down to an art because he tests himself and can regulate it. He seems to think that a small amount of sweet stuff during certain times of the day does metabolize better. He keeps his in check. Everything in moderation I think is how he looks at it. He just refused to give up his favs completely. Would tomatoe juice or vegetable juice be a good alternative? I know there is a percentage of sugar on the label of drinks and a magic percentage of too high for my dad to stay away from. Sending you love and light... Sharon http://foru2bhealed.angelfire.com/ http://health.gnosticholistichealingcenter/ ---- , " Miracle Yorkies " <miracleyorkies wrote: > > My husband has a type of diabetes where he is supposed to control it w/diet. He says he won't drink orange juice in the morning because it turns to sugar, and if he is eating something like grits or bread, he needs to be sure not to have too many carbs or bad things all at once. So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. He is not fond of milk. So, what is left? > > Marsha and the Yorkies > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I take Ningxia Red in the morning. It is lower on the glycemic index than fruit juice. Or he might try tomato juice or V8. Jude -- MY BLOG: http://jude-wellnessmatters.blogspot.com Find out more about me by clicking on the link below! http://jude.networkmarketingcentral.com To join alternative health discussion click this link... http://health.YLStars/join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thanks Jude Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thank you Rayne! Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Thank you Sharon I kept V8 in the fridge, but he never would drink it. He has tried some of the bottled teas and drinks them sometimes. I would make it if he would drink it. It is a very frustrating thing. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Ien I try to get him to drink other things but every time I look at him he has that poison in his hand, the diet soda.... ugh.... Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Well, that is pretty opposite of what his doctor says. His doc has him on low sugar, low carb, lots of protein and fat. Gosh, what to do..... I worry about him and just want the right food for him. Marsha There is a very big misconseption about what causes in increase in glucose levels in Type 2 diabetics, Sugar plays a very small part in this. The new studies strongly suggest that FAT is the leading cause of the insuiln resistance which is responsible for DM2. Remember anything and everything you eat converts to a form of sugar. This gives us our energy. When we eat too much fat in excessive amount particularly, Sulfur based amino-acids in the form of animal proteins, that are loaded with saturated fats, these fats wrap around the insulin receptors of the cells and and will not allow insulin to " open " the cell to allow the needed sugar in, this sugar then winds up in the blood stream and will cause high glucose levels. As a diabetic, a little sugar won't hurt, but, stay clear of animal protiens and " Sugar-Free " products, they are loaded with tons of fat. Hope this advise helps In Good Health....Naturally Dr. Scott B. Raphael,N.D. Robert <antiqmon2004 wrote: , " Miracle Yorkies " <miracleyorkies wrote: > > My husband has a type of diabetes where he is supposed to control it w/diet. He says he won't drink orange juice in the morning because it turns to sugar, and if he is eating something like grits or bread, he needs to be sure not to have too many carbs or bad things all at once. So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. He is not fond of milk. So, what is left? > > Marsha and the Yorkies > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 How about a little fruit juice in naturally carbonated mineral/spring water? Linda Ieneke van Houten <ienvan Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:37:24 PM Re: diabetic questions Michelle wrote: <So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. He is not fond of milk. So, what is left?> Your husband is lucky he has you to look out for him! You are so right, diet soda is pure poison. What else is there to drink? Does he prefer cold drinks? How does he feel about cold herbal teas, sweetened with Stevia? Try to make some, stick it in the fridge in a nice carafe ready to go, its worth a try. Colorful teas like that old standby " Red Zinger " , or Rooibos, look nice in a glass. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliv ing.com (blog) http://wildhealing. net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoo ds.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 Has he tried liquid stevia extract? Many health food stores carry it now. It works well in lemonade or cold tea or yoghurt. Not only is it not bad for a diabetic, it helps to curb sweet cravings and supports pancreatic function. There is more to Stevia than a pretty taste! Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com (blog) http://wildhealing.net (Rainforest Herbs) http://wildwholefoods.net (AFA algae) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 > Marsha wrote: > > My husband has a type of diabetes where he is supposed > to control it w/diet. He says he won't drink orange > juice in the morning because it turns to sugar, and if > he is eating something like grits or bread, he needs to > be sure not to have too many carbs or bad things all at > once. So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that > all the diet soda is bad for him because of the aspartame. > I would like to know what in the heck he should drink. He > gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. > He is not fond of milk. So, what is left? > > Marsha and the Yorkies > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > Hi Marsha, A couple of thoughts: If one does not like water, it is possible that they either have a copper allergy or too much copper in their body. As water is run through copper pipes it tends to pick up copper. So, either clearing the copper allergy or flushing the copper from the body may make a difference and he may find himself wanting more water. I also LOVE Dr. Emoto's work with the water crystals. When I first saw it I started writing " love, gratitude, peace, " and other positive vibrational words on my glasses, which indeed does tend to make the water taste better. In fact, I have experienced smelling chlorine in tap water, writing love and having the odor dissipate, and the water taste clear and clean. I also use reflex muscle testing a lot in my work. I have found that invariably tap water which has made a body go weak by placing a glass of it on the chest (in the body's energy field) will change enough that the weak muscle will go strong after writing " love " on the glass it is in. Word vibrations are indeed VERY powerful. If by chance anyone here does not know about Dr. Emoto's work with the water crystals, here is a link that talks about them and shows them, and how water reacts to the environment it is in: http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm Otherwise, I did see someone mention tomato juice, which is okay, though I'm of the opinion that it is best to eat the whole food. One other thought is that xylitol, a natural alcohol sugar which is found in mushrooms, berries, fruits, vegetables and birch, is a type of sweetener that the body likes (in small amounts). In fact the body naturally makes xylitol itself. I have a nephew who is a diabetic. One day I showed him what his body's reaction was to the Diet Mountain Dew he was drinking (had him hold the can on his chest, which caused a strong muscle to go completely weak), and then showed him his body's response to xylitol. The xylitol actually strengthened his muscle substantially. While holding it on his chest his wife literally hung on his arm with both of her hands and pulled down on his arm with all of her might, and it did not budge. You can read more about xylitol here: http://www.xylitol.org/ In my opinion for a diabetic protein and fat are very important parts of the diet, and substantially limiting if not removing grains is as well. Fresh whole raw fruits and vegetables also are good for diabetics. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 > Marsha wrote: > > Well, that is pretty opposite of what his > doctor says. His doc has him on low sugar, > low carb, lots of protein and fat. Gosh, > what to do..... I worry about him and just > want the right food for him. > > Marsha > Hi Marsha, It looks like there is a lot of controversy out there when it comes to proper diet for diabetes. In my humble opinion red meat is a very necessary part of the diet, and I agree with your doctor about the low carb, high protein and fat. This article has some good information about it: http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/diabetes-5.html In TBM and NH when we reset the body's sugar mechanism we put the person on a high protein low carb diet for two weeks. For the two weeks they are eating every two hours, and must have protein each time they eat. Also, I would highly recommend the book The Sugar Control Bible and Cookbook by Dr. Jacqueline Paltis. Kat Miller, CTBM, CNH Founder Emotional Freedom vial Founder Healing Energy Vibrations vial Certified ESM Instructor http://www.ehdef.com ehdef.com @gmail.com Utah USA Skype: JS_Kat -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Xylitol has been close to a lifesaver for me with diabetes. It makes great lemonade. it will sweeten any tart fruit. One beverage I make - first I make jam with xylitol and tart fruit - that gives me the jam on hand. You put some vinegar in the bottom of a glass, stir in some jam and add ice cold water and stir up well. You can suit the proportions to what you like - it's kind of like lemonade but with the flavor of whatever fruit you use for jam. The fruit has to be underripe, though, or it will make blood sugar go up. The glycemic index is fine as far as it goes, but it doesn't work exactly the same for everyone, plus the glycemic load is important - so though carrots are high on the index, you often don't eat enough to be a problem. But for diabetes, one of the best ways is just to test your blood sugar 1, 2 and 3 hours after a particular food you want to check out. You will find out quickly what ones work. With xylitol which is natural, you can make cookies and cakes, sweet rolls, etc, by using almond flour and flax meal plus powdered eggwhites and egg (the extra egg sticks it together). With a little effort, you can make delicious food the whole family enjoys and is better for them anyway. If you don't cook, this is hard. I make my own catsup using xylitol (catsup has a lot of sugar). I got the recipe from a lo-carb bookbook and replaced the artificial sweetener in the recipe. Xylitol tastes much better and has a lot of health benefits. My dentist wanted to know what I was doing because my gums improved so much. BBQ sauce is another sugary thing you can make at home. I had been so discouraged with my diabetes after 7 years or so, most of them on insulin. Cutting my insulin in half has really been a hopeful thing. Diabetes can be reversed in many cases, and even if not all the way, greatly improved. Don't ever give up on a health problem. Research on the internet. We are just getting started with healthier alternatives for health - so much more is yet to come as we learn how things really work. Docs may often be fine people but they have stopped learning new things and are going to get left behind unless they start paying attention to something besides their drug reps. Good luck to all with diabetes - there is so much we can do. Thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Wow, now that might work! Marsha ---- Linda Bumpas <lindabumpas wrote: > How about a little fruit juice in naturally carbonated mineral/spring water? > > Linda > > > > Ieneke van Houten <ienvan > > Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:37:24 PM > Re: diabetic questions > > Michelle wrote: > > <So, he drinks diet soda at breakfast. I worry that all the diet soda is > bad for him because of the aspartame. I would like to know what in the > heck he should drink. He gets tired of water and is not much of a coffee drinker. > He is not fond of milk. So, what is left?> > > Your husband is lucky he has you to look out for him! > You are so right, diet soda is pure poison. > > What else is there to drink? Does he prefer cold > drinks? > How does he feel about cold herbal teas, sweetened > with Stevia? > Try to make some, stick it in the fridge in a nice > carafe ready to go, its worth a try. > Colorful teas like that old standby " Red Zinger " , > or Rooibos, look nice in a glass. > > Ien in the Kootenays > http://freegreenliv ing.com (blog) > http://wildhealing. net (Rainforest Herbs) > http://wildwholefoo ds.net (AFA algae) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Thanks Irene Yes, I have bought other things. And he knows how bad the diet soda is for him. All I can do is to try and to tell him. But the rest is up to him. I have tried to reason with him, but he just kinda makes a joke of it. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Irene He was checking his blood all the time, he couldn't make heads or tails of it. I just try to feed him a good balance and encourage him to eat a healthy diet. I cook for him, so most times, he eats a balance meal. All we can do is all we can do. I can't live his life, only encourage him. Thanks for all the advice, it really does help to hear it, even though I know some of these things, hearing it helps to enforce it. Thanks so much. Marsha and the Yorkies http://www.miracleyorkies.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Maybe if you explain to your husbands that they have most likely become addicted to the diet soda, and that is what is feeding their preference for the chemical over more healthier beverages. Russell Blaylock in his book " Excitotoxins " list aspartame as a neurotransmitter and can cause neurons to become extremely excited and, if given in large enough doses, they can cause these cells to degenerate and die. I have had numerous friends and family get themselves off diet soda, after I loaded them up with facts about what artificial sweeteners did to them and people don't like to label themselves as addicted. Priscilla On Oct 30, 2007, at 8:11 AM, Irene wrote: > Marsha, > > It's going to be difficult for your husband to be well as long as he > is drinking this poison. I have problems with my husband also. He > wonders why he feels like crap even though he has his diabetes in > control, his BP is good, etc. It's an addiction. All you can do is > have other options for him. > > Irene > , " Miracle Yorkies " > <miracleyorkies wrote: > > > > Ien > > I try to get him to drink other things but every time I look at > him he has that poison in his hand, the diet soda.... ugh.... > > > > Marsha and the Yorkies > > http://www.miracleyorkies.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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