Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Wi-Fi in the air: Do you Care? Wi-Fi: Technology with Consequences By: Aurore Adamkiewicz, ND Germany is banning Wi-Fi in public areas and warning it's citizens about the danger of wireless internet, this is in sharp contrast to life in the States where the very public display of " wi-fi " is at practically every store you go into. Indeed, Wi-Fi signs are everywhere- " Free Wi-Fi " in diners, cafes, and bookstores. What does this sign mean to you and how are you effected by " Free Wi-Fi " ? Well, the biggest problem is the strong electro-magnetic current and once it it is directed into the air towards you-it is hard to avoid because once it is in your area, everyone there " picks " it up. I can only guess that the fall out of the Wi-fi waves will be similar to when I worked in an oncology clinic on the east side at the DMC. We would have four or five people on one block with cancer come in- The doctors always made sure, when that happened, not to schedule them on the same days.In fact, like a naive-idiot at the time, I actually brought it to the attention of the doctors...assuming they didn't know or realize these people lived by eachother in " cancer pockets " - Well, the next day I got written up for being " too nice " and " too slow " with the cancer patients! Here is an article that was sent to me by a highly respected natural scientist and a personal friend, Dr. James DeMeo: http://environment.independent.co.uk/lifestyle/article2944417.ece Germany warns citizens to avoid using Wi-Fi Environment Ministry's verdict on the health risks from wireless technology puts the British government to shame. By Geoffrey Lean Published: 09 September 2007 People should avoid using Wi-Fi wherever possible because of the risks it may pose to health, the German government has said. Its surprise ruling - the most damning made by any government on the fast-growing technology - will shake the industry and British ministers, and vindicates the questions that The Independent on Sunday has been raising over the past four months. And Germany's official radiation protection body also advises its citizens to use landlines instead of mobile phones, and warns of " electrosmog " from a wide range of other everyday products, from baby monitors to electric blankets. The German government's ruling - which contrasts sharply with the unquestioning promotion of the technology by British officials - was made in response to a series of questions by Green members of the Bundestag, Germany's parliament. The Environment Ministry recommended that people should keep their exposure to radiation from Wi-Fi " as low as possible " by choosing " conventional wired connections " . It added that it is " actively informing people about possibilities for reducing personal exposure " . Its actions will provide vital support for Sir William Stewart, Britain's official health protection watchdog, who has produced two reports calling for caution in using mobile phones and who has also called for a review of the use of Wi-Fi in schools. His warnings have so far been ignored by ministers and even played down by the Health Protection Agency, which he chairs. By contrast the agency's German equivalent - the Federal Office for Radiation Protection - is leading the calls for caution. Florian Emrich, for the office, says Wi-Fi should be avoided " because people receive exposures from many sources and because it is a new technology and all the research into its health effects has not yet been carried out " . +++++ And for a nice collection of meters to measure such electro-smog, see: http://www.naturalenergyworks.net Aurore Adamkiewicz, ND www.beyondnaturalmedicine.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Have any of you spent time in Germany after all this? Would be interesting to see how the populace is reacting to it. Of course " the government " saying it gives the idea legitimacy. Good for those government people for doing the right thing! Obviously the American and British government people are more concerned with money from lobbyists than the Public Good, but what is really depressing is that most of that Public will just do whatever the TV-advertisers tell them to do. Whatever LOOKS cool is the best thing to do... Joy , " Aurore " <aurore33 wrote: > > Wi-Fi in the air: Do you Care? > Wi-Fi: Technology with Consequences > By: Aurore Adamkiewicz, ND > Germany is banning Wi-Fi in public areas and warning it's citizens > about the danger of wireless internet, this is in sharp contrast to > life in the States where the very public display of " wi-fi " is at > practically every store you go into. Indeed, Wi-Fi signs are > everywhere- " Free Wi-Fi " in diners, cafes, and bookstores. What does > this sign mean to you and how are you effected by " Free Wi-Fi " ? Well, > the biggest problem is the strong electro-magnetic current and once > it it is directed into the air towards you-it is hard to avoid > because once it is in your area, everyone there " picks " it up. I can > only guess that the fall out of the Wi-fi waves will be similar to > when I worked in an oncology clinic on the east side at the DMC. > We would have four or five people on one block with cancer come in- > The doctors always made sure, when that happened, not to schedule > them on the same days.In fact, like a naive-idiot at the time, I > actually brought it to the attention of the doctors...assuming they > didn't know or realize these people lived by eachother in " cancer > pockets " - > Well, the next day I got written up for being " too nice " and " too > slow " with the cancer patients! > Here is an article that was sent to me by a highly respected natural > scientist and a personal friend, Dr. James DeMeo: > http://environment.independent.co.uk/lifestyle/article2944417.ece > > Germany warns citizens to avoid using Wi-Fi > > Environment Ministry's verdict on the health risks from wireless > technology puts the British government to shame. > > By Geoffrey Lean > Published: 09 September 2007 > > People should avoid using Wi-Fi wherever possible because of the > risks it may pose to health, the German government has said. > > Its surprise ruling - the most damning made by any government on the > fast-growing technology - will shake the industry and British > ministers, and vindicates the questions that The Independent on > Sunday has been raising over the past four months. > > And Germany's official radiation protection body also advises its > citizens to use landlines instead of mobile phones, and warns > of " electrosmog " from a wide range of other everyday products, from > baby monitors to electric blankets. > > The German government's ruling - which contrasts sharply with the > unquestioning promotion of the technology by British officials - was > made in response to a series of questions by Green members of the > Bundestag, Germany's parliament. > > The Environment Ministry recommended that people should keep their > exposure to radiation from Wi-Fi " as low as possible " by > choosing " conventional wired connections " . It added that it > is " actively informing people about possibilities for reducing > personal exposure " . > > Its actions will provide vital support for Sir William Stewart, > Britain's official health protection watchdog, who has produced two > reports calling for caution in using mobile phones and who has also > called for a review of the use of Wi-Fi in schools. His warnings have > so far been ignored by ministers and even played down by the Health > Protection Agency, which he chairs. > > By contrast the agency's German equivalent - the Federal Office for > Radiation Protection - is leading the calls for caution. > > Florian Emrich, for the office, says Wi-Fi should be avoided " because > people receive exposures from many sources and because it is a new > technology and all the research into its health effects has not yet > been carried out " . > > +++++ > And for a nice collection of meters to measure such electro-smog, see: > http://www.naturalenergyworks.net > > Aurore Adamkiewicz, ND > www.beyondnaturalmedicine.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Wi-Fi isn't more dangerous than cell phones (mobile phones) but would you guys give up your cell phones? There is another side to this coin. With Wi-Fi they cannot find where you are or who you are but with cable Internet (ADSL, LAN, etc.) they know your location, they know your internet provider, they can follow each of your step. Yes, Wi-Fi is not healthy as many other high-tech devices but if they can eliminate Wi-Fi then they can have your Internet browsing under control. Thanks to the Internet people are more informed and for those who need to control this is not a good news. I would look at both sides of the coin. Some people here in this group are Coast2Coast listeners so they would know what I am talking about. jana , " jmr1290 " <jomarex wrote: > > Have any of you spent time in Germany after all this? Would be > interesting to see how the populace is reacting to it. Of course " the > government " saying it gives the idea legitimacy. Good for those > government people for doing the right thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2008 Report Share Posted February 3, 2008 Pardon me, but the information in this post is incorrect. I was an Electronics Research Engineer in what is commonly called " Wireless " before I got into molecular and biomedical electronics research .. and later, Naturopathy and Psychology Mobile phones ARE dangerous .. but not for the reasons popularly touted; the reasons the mobile phone people say they're not is because of the amount of money that the TelCo's throw around to prove that they are not. Also .. WiFi sends a tracking signal - just like mobile phones do - and a WiFi user can be identified and located to within 10 meteres with relatively simple equipment (or in a closed building with its own WiFi loop within 1 meter!). Christopher Wynter D.App.Sc; N.D; M.Eng; Ph.D " Jana " <jana wrote: > > Wi-Fi isn't more dangerous than cell phones (mobile phones) but would > you guys give up your cell phones? There is another side to this coin. > With Wi-Fi they cannot find where you are or who you are but with > cable Internet (ADSL, LAN, etc.) they know your location, they know > your internet provider, they can follow each of your step. Yes, Wi- Fi > is not healthy as many other high-tech devices but if they can > eliminate Wi-Fi then they can have your Internet browsing under > control. Thanks to the Internet people are more informed and for > those who need to control this is not a good news. I would look at > both sides of the coin. > Some people here in this group are Coast2Coast listeners so they > would know what I am talking about. > jana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Thank you Christopher for your wisdom. As the Internet is now part of our lives, your qualified input is greatly appreciated. I admit that I am not an electrical engineer. I am only an excellent medical doctor (non-native English speaker) who also has double masters of health science (Traditional from China and Naturopathy from Germany) and PhD in GYN/OB from Tokyo University, Japan so my knowledge about Wi-Fi is from my father who is an electronics research engineer still working for top government laboratory (equivalent to Los Alamos), in very advanced high-tech research. Why would Wi-Fi even interest me? I do not prescribe drugs, I do not use invasive treatments in my practice and since I work mostly through " subtle energies " and energy medicine I am very sensitive to vibrations/frequencies/EMF/radiation/human energy fields, etc. Thank you very much for sharing your knowing (and knowledge) on this topic. Yes, WiFi can be tracked as well as a wired station. However, if you are moving around with a wireless card you have LESS chances being traced than if you were sitting at a desk with a wired line. Yes, all signals can be triangulated just as they traced and tracked cell phones in the past. Now all cell phones for the most part are GMS which means they can be tracked via satellite or the old standard method. So in reality any wired or wireless media can be tracked and traced. I should have been more accurate and write that with Wi-Fi you are more " invisible " . After all, some people do not mind Big Brother watching but I still value my privacy and freedom. Yes, cellphones (mobile phones)are DANGEROUS. You can take two cellphones, dial one another, place one fresh egg between the two cellphones holding them together with a rubber band or a strap and in short period of time you will have a hard boiled egg. So you can imagine what damage this causes to your brain in a years time. What are the infinite possibilities? jana , " anunda_lifestreams " <christopher wrote: > > Pardon me, but the information in this post is incorrect. > > I was an Electronics Research Engineer in what is commonly > called " Wireless " before I got into molecular and biomedical > electronics research .. and later, Naturopathy and Psychology > > Mobile phones ARE dangerous .. but not for the reasons popularly > touted; the reasons the mobile phone people say they're not is > because of the amount of money that the TelCo's throw around to > prove that they are not. > > Also .. WiFi sends a tracking signal - just like mobile phones do - > and a WiFi user can be identified and located to within 10 meteres > with relatively simple equipment (or in a closed building with its > own WiFi loop within 1 meter!). > > Christopher Wynter D.App.Sc; N.D; M.Eng; Ph.D > > " Jana " <jana@> wrote: > > > > Wi-Fi isn't more dangerous than cell phones (mobile phones) but > would > > you guys give up your cell phones? There is another side to this > coin. > > With Wi-Fi they cannot find where you are or who you are but with > > cable Internet (ADSL, LAN, etc.) they know your location, they > know > > your internet provider, they can follow each of your step. Yes, Wi- > Fi > > is not healthy as many other high-tech devices but if they can > > eliminate Wi-Fi then they can have your Internet browsing under > > control. Thanks to the Internet people are more informed and for > > those who need to control this is not a good news. I would look at > > both sides of the coin. > > Some people here in this group are Coast2Coast listeners so they > > would know what I am talking about. > > jana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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