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I quit smoking the day I found out I was pregnant with my son. He's almost two years old and I still, at times, have a sudden NASTY craving for one; a couple times I swear if I would have had one in the house (fat chance of that) I would have taken a puff.

Anyone else ever had this problem? Does it go away EVER? You'd think 2 1/2 years would be enough!

 

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I still have that problem but only when others that I like being around smoke. To this day I have the craving when someone is smoking one near me. But like I said it has to be someone I admire or like.

 

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Anyone else ever had this problem? Does it go away EVER? You'd think 2 1/2 years would be enough!

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I quit the day I got out of the Coast Guard, back in 1985. And I STILL get cravings.

 

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I quit smoking the day I found out I was pregnant with my son. He's almost two years old and I still, at times, have a sudden NASTY craving for one; a couple times I swear if I would have had one in the house (fat chance of that) I would have taken a puff.

Anyone else ever had this problem? Does it go away EVER? You'd think 2 1/2 years would be enough!

 

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Hm, I'm the opposite. When I am around smokers, it makes me sick, the smoke, the visual of smoking, all of it. It's when I am "alone with my thoughts" (not a safe place for me to be at times), that I get the cravings.

 

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I still have that problem but only when others that I like being around smoke. To this day I have the craving when someone is smoking one near me. But like I said it has to be someone I admire or like.

 

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I'm the same way. If DH lights up a cig while we're outside doing something I just about gag. But if I'm depressed and frustrated I feel like buying a pack of smokes to join me in my misery.

 

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Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:52 AM

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Hm, I'm the opposite. When I am around smokers, it makes me sick, the smoke, the visual of smoking, all of it. It's when I am "alone with my thoughts" (not a safe place for me to be at times), that I get the cravings.

 

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I fell off the wagon. I tried to quit

about 2 weeks ago. Made it the two weeks and then crashed. Between trying to

quit all my vices at once (bad idea to begin with) my cat getting sick and

freaking out on me, stretching to pay rent and my car being about to break down….well

it didn’t work so good. I’ll be trying again soon.

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LOL... what else could be safe with you and it "alone". LOL. I understand. We're all just that much different. Makes the world go round.

 

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Hm, I'm the opposite. When I am around smokers, it makes me sick, the smoke, the visual of smoking, all of it. It's when I am "alone with my thoughts" (not a safe place for me to be at times), that I get the cravings.

 

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Dear Lizzy,

 

Heya hon. Your aloud to try things on a gradient. Quit one thing. Done. Quit another thing. Done. You know. I did it. I even have the occasional smoke with someone every so often. But I have complete control of it.............. LOL.

 

Zeb

 

I’ll be trying again soon.

 

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Zeb,

How can you have control of it if you are still haveing an ocassional cigarette??

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If you want to take it slowly, don't smoke Mondays. A month later, don't smoke Mondays and Wednesdays. Just keep cutting back until there are no days left!

Just an idea.

 

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Saturday, May 08, 2004 1:21 PM

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I fell off the wagon. I tried to quit about 2 weeks ago. Made it the two weeks and then crashed. Between trying to quit all my vices at once (bad idea to begin with) my cat getting sick and freaking out on me, stretching to pay rent and my car being about to break down….well it didn’t work so good. I’ll be trying again soon.

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HI,

 

I quit 31/1 yrs ago, but I'd smoked for 30+ years and I still crave. I

don't think that ever stops....I trained myself well to smoke before and

after everything else I did. I'm an artist and now I really crave

before and after I have a really good creative spurt. It's weird. I've

given in on two occasions and both times it made me violently

ill...thankfully. So now when I really want to smoke I recall how sick

I got and it helps me to realize how truly poisenness the things are....

 

Good luck to all of us former and want-to-be formers. Giving up

cigarettes is really one of the hardest personal things I've ever done.

 

There is an excellent on-line support group @ for

women....It's called buttout and those women got me through the first 90

days.

 

peace

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Zeb wrote

 

Your aloud to try things on a gradient.

 

Yeah, I’ve decided that’s the way to go. Starting a new and

healthy lifestyle is in and of itself really difficult for me. Up until now I’ve

“known” how unhealthy I was but was unwilling to change anything. Massage

school has really opened my eyes to a lot of things. The more I learn about my

body the less I can ignore it. That and my body has started letting me know in

little ways that things need to change and soon. Right now it’s a matter of

time and money so things are moving very slowly. And occasionally I backslide.

It’s a slow process but one that I’m committed to. There’s no reason for me to

feel like crap when I know that if I treat my body right it will treat me

right. I’m too young to feel like this!!! Ha ha ha.

 

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If you want to take it slowly, don't smoke Mondays

 

Hey that’s a great idea! Thanks.

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Liz, we can be mentally ready (knowing that we should quit), but emotionally or situationally unable to yet. When the time comes, you'll be ready. You have lots of support here!!!!

 

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I fell off the wagon. I tried to quit about 2 weeks ago. Made it the two weeks and then crashed. Between trying to quit all my vices at once (bad idea to begin with) my cat getting sick and freaking out on me, stretching to pay rent and my car being about to break down….well it didn’t work so good. I’ll be trying again soon.

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John wrote:

You have lots of support here!!!!

 

Thanks john!!

 

 

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Well... I simply don't even think about it until I'm with someone I like or admire. Then I like to sit down and chill out with them. Some I'll smoke with. Others I won't.

 

For example. When seeing "friends" who go out partying all night on Friday or Saturday I don't ever feel like smoking with them. But let's say there's someone in my life that has been a great inspiration. I'll sit down and have a smoke.

 

I'm quite out going and like to converse a lot. I tend to do as those do who are my opinion leaders "to a point!" I do not crave one until I see that person that I have a lot of admiration for and only if they are smoking. Does this make sense. It's more of a mind thing then a body craving. I hope that makes sense.

 

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How can you have control of it if you are still haveing an ocassional cigarette??

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No Zeb, it doesn't make sense..... here you are doing cleanses, eating right, etc... to be healthy and you are still smoking. (even if it is only once in awhile)... What you're saying is that if you have great admiration for someone and they were doing "crack" you'd do it with them... Zeb, you can have great admiration for someone and not participate in their habits. Ask Doc about this... I'm sure he'll agree with me on this.

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Well... I simply don't even think about it until I'm with someone I like or admire. Then I like to sit down and chill out with them. Some I'll smoke with. Others I won't.

 

For example. When seeing "friends" who go out partying all night on Friday or Saturday I don't ever feel like smoking with them. But let's say there's someone in my life that has been a great inspiration. I'll sit down and have a smoke.

 

I'm quite out going and like to converse a lot. I tend to do as those do who are my opinion leaders "to a point!" I do not crave one until I see that person that I have a lot of admiration for and only if they are smoking. Does this make sense. It's more of a mind thing then a body craving. I hope that makes sense.

 

Zeb

 

How can you have control of it if you are still haveing an ocassional cigarette?? Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of

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"Suzi???" Crack! LOL. No on my last post I mention "to a point". What I meant by that is this. I don't drink coffee, I don't drink alcohol, I don't take any pharmaceuticals and have only once in my life, I don't eat sugar etc. etc. etc.. I smoked for a while but I only smoke maybe once every 4-5 months.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is this. I still have not fully decided for Myself not to smoke. I don't normally smoke because no around me does and my wife hates it. Now those I hang out with don't either so... you see my point.

 

This Saturday I ran 3.1 miles in a race and got second place in my age group (25-29). So I'll really have to square up as I'm joining a team and everything. So Sugar isn't a vice, alcohol not a vice, never did any street drugs and don't ever do Pharmies. I'm pretty clean and need to firm up only on this point.

 

Whattaya say to that?

 

Zebbers

 

P.S. Don't bring Doc into it or I'll never hear the end of it. LOL.

 

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What you're saying is that if you have great admiration for someone and they were doing "crack" you'd do it with them...

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Kind of like men who join a "cigar club" and just do it to socialize and get out and only smoke cigars when they're there!

 

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Monday, May 10, 2004 7:38 AM

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Well... I simply don't even think about it until I'm with someone I like or admire. Then I like to sit down and chill out with them. Some I'll smoke with. Others I won't.

 

For example. When seeing "friends" who go out partying all night on Friday or Saturday I don't ever feel like smoking with them. But let's say there's someone in my life that has been a great inspiration. I'll sit down and have a smoke.

 

I'm quite out going and like to converse a lot. I tend to do as those do who are my opinion leaders "to a point!" I do not crave one until I see that person that I have a lot of admiration for and only if they are smoking. Does this make sense. It's more of a mind thing then a body craving. I hope that makes sense.

 

Zeb

 

Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

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Welllllllllllllllllllllll.what do I say to that.... as Doc would put it... it's your life...but to be in control is a bit of a reach since you still give in to smoking (even if it is only "every so often") Granted 1 vice is better than a whole bunch of them... but you're defeating your purpose... "I'm not putting any alcohol, sugar, drugs in my system, but excuse me I'm filling up my lungs with carbon monoxide... DUHHH... and what makes you think Doc won't get involved.. ROFL... he's reading these posts also.... Zeb, you're doing so good.... don't give in to it. You cannot be in control of your smoking if you're still smoking...

But, enough said... it is your life and your decision, not a very healthy one...even if it is only once in awhile...

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I don't drink coffee, I don't drink alcohol, I don't take any pharmaceuticals and have only once in my life, I don't eat sugar etc. etc. etc.. I smoked for a while but I only smoke maybe once every 4-5 months.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is this. I still have not fully decided for Myself not to smoke. I don't normally smoke because no around me does and my wife hates it. Now those I hang out with don't either so... you see my point.

 

So Sugar isn't a vice, alcohol not a vice, never did any street drugs and don't ever do Pharmies. I'm pretty clean and need to firm up only on this point.

 

Whattaya say to that?

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Hmmmmmmmm. Funny thing.

 

When I quit the first time many years ago, I had decided at the time that I was a smoker who didn't smoke, and had many cravings following that decision.

 

The last time I quit, I decided that I was NOT a smoker. This may not seem like a big deal, but it is the quality of the decision I guess that I'm trying to point out here. If you make the decision that you're a smoker but that you can't smoke or won't, then you are always fighting the earlier decision that you are still a smoker even though you quit.

 

I dunno, may be this is not clear enough, but for me it was a major win. There is nothing more complicated to it than that. If you're not a smoker, how can you have a craving for it. You might want to try to recall when you made the original decision to be a smoker, then after you've spotted that time, simply change your mind about it in present time and decide you aren't a smoker.

 

Does this make sense???

 

Any who. I've never had a craving since.

 

Love,

 

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Saturday, May 08, 2004 9:40 AM

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I quit the day I got out of the Coast Guard, back in 1985. And I STILL get cravings.

 

JohnCandace Podratz <CandaceAndBrock wrote:

 

I quit smoking the day I found out I was pregnant with my son. He's almost two years old and I still, at times, have a sudden NASTY craving for one; a couple times I swear if I would have had one in the house (fat chance of that) I would have taken a puff.

Anyone else ever had this problem? Does it go away EVER? You'd think 2 1/2 years would be enough!

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Use the "Huff 'n' Puff" to help you quit, after you've made that firm decision.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

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Saturday, May 08, 2004 2:21 PM

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I fell off the wagon. I tried to quit about 2 weeks ago. Made it the two weeks and then crashed. Between trying to quit all my vices at once (bad idea to begin with) my cat getting sick and freaking out on me, stretching to pay rent and my car being about to break down….well it didn’t work so good. I’ll be trying again soon.

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Thank you Suzi. Your so durned cute!

 

Love,

 

Zeb

 

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Welllllllllllllllllllllll.what do I say to that.... as Doc would put it... it's your life...but to be in control is a bit of a reach since you still give in to smoking (even if it is only "every so often") Granted 1 vice is better than a whole bunch of them... but you're defeating your purpose... "I'm not putting any alcohol, sugar, drugs in my system, but excuse me I'm filling up my lungs with carbon monoxide... DUHHH... and what makes you think Doc won't get involved.. ROFL... he's reading these posts also.... Zeb, you're doing so good.... don't give in to it. You cannot be in control of your smoking if you're still smoking...

But, enough said... it is your life and your decision, not a very healthy one...even if it is only once in awhile...

Suzi

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I don't drink coffee, I don't drink alcohol, I don't take any pharmaceuticals and have only once in my life, I don't eat sugar etc. etc. etc.. I smoked for a while but I only smoke maybe once every 4-5 months.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is this. I still have not fully decided for Myself not to smoke. I don't normally smoke because no around me does and my wife hates it. Now those I hang out with don't either so... you see my point.

 

So Sugar isn't a vice, alcohol not a vice, never did any street drugs and don't ever do Pharmies. I'm pretty clean and need to firm up only on this point.

 

Whattaya say to that?

 

 

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Hi I'm a newbie and just had to jump in on this discussion. When I

was still smoking, I kept saying I was a non smoker who liked to

smoke. I just celebrated my one year of being smober on April 6th.

I quit using Natra-Bio's herbal remedies. They were a God-send.

Haven't touched one since. Yay!

 

Melody

 

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<DocShillington@V...> wrote:

> Hmmmmmmmm. Funny thing.

>

> When I quit the first time many years ago, I had decided at the

time that I was a smoker who didn't smoke, and had many cravings

following that decision.

>

> The last time I quit, I decided that I was NOT a smoker. This may

not seem like a big deal, but it is the quality of the decision I

guess that I'm trying to point out here. If you make the decision

that you're a smoker but that you can't smoke or won't, then you are

always fighting the earlier decision that you are still a smoker even

though you quit.

>

> I dunno, may be this is not clear enough, but for me it was a major

win. There is nothing more complicated to it than that. If you're

not a smoker, how can you have a craving for it. You might want to

try to recall when you made the original decision to be a smoker,

then after you've spotted that time, simply change your mind about it

in present time and decide you aren't a smoker.

>

> Does this make sense???

>

> Any who. I've never had a craving since.

>

> Love,

>

> Doc

>

> Ian " Doc " Shillington N.D.

> 727-738-0554

> Doc@A...

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