Digest Number 2218

[Guest guest]

I can't remember who instigated it, but if you go to

the supplyreview list, there was an extremely long

thread on exactly this - what happened when somebody

mentioned the extra charges. If you read their terms,

you agree to accept whatever their second charge is

when you order. A few people questioned it, and were

basically told " If you don't like it, order elsewhere.

Buh bye. "

 

Kirstin

 

 

--- candi Frost <kandella1 wrote:

 

> I was just wondering....I have heard so much

> good and bad about Camden-Grey's eo's being sent in

> plastic,

> over charging for shipments and sending out their

> products in an

> untimely fashion. And also from people that like

> them just fine.

> The question is: Has anyone heard from Camden Grey

> answering the

> problems? I would like to know if he is trying to

> solve the problems or just

> over looking what the buyers don't like??? Or is no

> one telling him they are unhappy?

 

 

 

 

Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

[Guest guest]

I was just wondering....I have heard so much

good and bad about Camden-Grey's eo's being sent in plastic,

over charging for shipments and sending out their products in an

untimely fashion. And also from people that like them just fine.

The question is: Has anyone heard from Camden Grey answering the

problems? I would like to know if he is trying to solve the problems or just

over looking what the buyers don't like??? Or is no one telling him they are

unhappy?

I for one don't like plastic bottles and I don't like transferring the product

into them,

because I always spill at least a small amount. I would prefer the glass bottles

also

but I understand the cost of the bottles them selves. It would be nice if we had

a choice.

I know the work that might create but I would gladly pay for the glass if I did

have a

choice.

Just my 2 cents...

Candi

Fairy Dust Creations

----- Original Message Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:48:17 -0000

" serenity7art " <walknjoy<walknjoy>

Re: Camden -Grey ordering Eo's are in glass, carrier oils in plastic

 

I do also have to jump in on this one. I haven't posted before but I

have ordered many times with Camden-Grey and order a lot of EO's and

carrier oils and large orders and have got great service from them and

wonderful products. The EO's have always come in glass and packaged

very well. It takes me quiet a long time to undo the wrapping on

them. The only thing that comes in plastic are the carrier oils. and

that is the way the carrier oils are shipped in plastic with most

companys. The only thing was in the last order I recieved my Forah

oil was smelling a little rancid and they replaced it quickly. I don't

know maybe I have just been blessed or something but I order from them

a lot. thanks charli

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

I know of a few people who complained to CG about their fees etc and got very

rude nasty replies back. I highly suggest going to the supplier review lists

and reading up on them for yourselves. From what I've heard they can be very

mean when confronted with a problem

Veronica Davidson

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com

http://www.friendswithms.com

-

candi Frost

Monday, September 19, 2005 12:18 PM

Re: Digest Number 2218

 

 

I was just wondering....I have heard so much

good and bad about Camden-Grey's eo's being sent in plastic,

over charging for shipments and sending out their products in an

untimely fashion. And also from people that like them just fine.

The question is: Has anyone heard from Camden Grey answering the

problems? I would like to know if he is trying to solve the problems or just

over looking what the buyers don't like??? Or is no one telling him they are

unhappy?

I for one don't like plastic bottles and I don't like transferring the product

into them,

because I always spill at least a small amount. I would prefer the glass

bottles also

but I understand the cost of the bottles them selves. It would be nice if we

had a choice.

I know the work that might create but I would gladly pay for the glass if I

did have a

choice.

Just my 2 cents...

Candi

Fairy Dust Creations

----- Original Message Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:48:17 -0000

" serenity7art " <walknjoy<walknjoy>

Re: Camden -Grey ordering Eo's are in glass, carrier oils in

plastic

 

I do also have to jump in on this one. I haven't posted before but I

have ordered many times with Camden-Grey and order a lot of EO's and

carrier oils and large orders and have got great service from them and

wonderful products. The EO's have always come in glass and packaged

very well. It takes me quiet a long time to undo the wrapping on

them. The only thing that comes in plastic are the carrier oils. and

that is the way the carrier oils are shipped in plastic with most

companys. The only thing was in the last order I recieved my Forah

oil was smelling a little rancid and they replaced it quickly. I don't

know maybe I have just been blessed or something but I order from them

a lot. thanks charli

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone,

 

I have to share my experience with CG after reading so many posts. Many of you

will recall the arduous argument I got in with Vivian the owner of CG. I posted

a reply to some educational questions and included a recommended reading list.

I was treated very badly. My credentials and experience were publicly

questioned on the group and I had to come out swinging to defend myself - which

I did and was then re-admitted to the group.

 

My point is that not only was I treated rudely on the group by both the owner

and her chat monitor (they really embarrassed themselves judging by the hundreds

of emails I got offline), I have been treated rudely in person by the owner when

I go to pick up an order of JUST GLASS VIALS.

 

I purchased EO's and CO's once from CG and they came in plastic bottles - very

bad form, the CO's went rancid within a month - unacceptable and unbelievable!

and their eo's were so grassy and alcohol smelling that I spent nearly $8000

comparing eo's from other sources before I found the direct importer that I work

with now. Their oils are cheaper, but they are not pure eo's in my experience.

I'd rather do as I do and import the pure eo's and co's and pay a little extra

to receive them well packed, IN GLASS, no breakage - ever - from Spain, Turkey,

China, anywhere that I get my oils from. I contacted 3 of my suppliers after

reading these posts and every one of them state that due to careful packaging,

breakage rarely occurs. I ship internationally and nationally and I have never

had a bottle break. I guarantee my eo's and my goods. I ship insured mail and

I have never had any problems. Our shipping charges are just straight postage

and $1 - $5 for handling depending on package size (bubble wrap, peanuts, tape).

That's it! In fact, if a shipping or postage charge goes over what we charge

the customer, we pay for it, period. We feel it's very poor business practice

to ship eo's in plastic, over or after charge a customer and unacceptable to be

rude for any reason.

 

I no longer get even bottles from CG - their prices and availability are not

worth the harassment. I find bottles elsewhere and have great suppliers. I've

compared CG's prices on eo's to my own - for the quality and customer service

and honest business practice - they aren't much cheaper.

 

To all of you wonderful creators of yummies - I hope you find someone who can

provide you with quality, great customer service and honesty! You deserve it.

 

Katherine Quillen

Owner

Mother Earth's Apothecary

main<main

New Easier to Navigate and 100's more products WEBSITE will be up by next week!

Come check out our sales next week:

motherearthsapothecary.com<http://motherearthsapothecary.com/>

 

-

Veronica Davidson<mommyv3

< >

Monday, September 19, 2005 3:44 PM

Re: Digest Number 2218

 

 

I know of a few people who complained to CG about their fees etc and got very

rude nasty replies back. I highly suggest going to the supplier review lists

and reading up on them for yourselves. From what I've heard they can be very

mean when confronted with a problem

Veronica Davidson

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com/>

http://www.friendswithms.com<http://www.friendswithms.com/>

-

candi Frost

Monday, September 19, 2005 12:18 PM

Re: Digest Number 2218

 

 

I was just wondering....I have heard so much

good and bad about Camden-Grey's eo's being sent in plastic,

over charging for shipments and sending out their products in an

untimely fashion. And also from people that like them just fine.

The question is: Has anyone heard from Camden Grey answering the

problems? I would like to know if he is trying to solve the problems or just

over looking what the buyers don't like??? Or is no one telling him they are

unhappy?

I for one don't like plastic bottles and I don't like transferring the

product into them,

because I always spill at least a small amount. I would prefer the glass

bottles also

but I understand the cost of the bottles them selves. It would be nice if we

had a choice.

I know the work that might create but I would gladly pay for the glass if I

did have a

choice.

Just my 2 cents...

Candi

Fairy Dust Creations

----- Original Message Sun, 18 Sep 2005 19:48:17 -0000

" serenity7art " <walknjoy<walknjoy>

Re: Camden -Grey ordering Eo's are in glass, carrier oils in

plastic

 

I do also have to jump in on this one. I haven't posted before but I

have ordered many times with Camden-Grey and order a lot of EO's and

carrier oils and large orders and have got great service from them and

wonderful products. The EO's have always come in glass and packaged

very well. It takes me quiet a long time to undo the wrapping on

them. The only thing that comes in plastic are the carrier oils. and

that is the way the carrier oils are shipped in plastic with most

companys. The only thing was in the last order I recieved my Forah

oil was smelling a little rancid and they replaced it quickly. I don't

know maybe I have just been blessed or something but I order from them

a lot. thanks charli

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

So Kirstin, and all,

 

Then who is your supplier of choice? If not Camden

grey?

 

You may email me privately if you'd like.

 

I would like to know. I presently buy a lot from CG

(and others too) but CG has some things I haven't

found elsewhere. Maybe I'm missing a good supplier

and just don't know it!!!

 

Judy

 

 

 

 

Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

[Guest guest]

--- Mother Earth's Apothecary

<motherearthsapothecary wrote:

 

> Hi Everyone,

>

 

and their eo's were so grassy and

> alcohol smelling

 

I would agree with the above assessment.

 

Best regards,

Carol

 

_______________________________

Never Accept Only Two Choices in Life.

The problems of Today cannot be solved by the same thinking that created them.

-Al Einstein.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

 

[Guest guest]

Veronica,

I cannot tell you how much your email means to me. Although I was always

raised with Native medicine, I'm new to the " web world " and, as a business, I'm

struggling a lot. What Vivian and Ela did to me really hurt me seriously in

this community. My web designer did a horrible job and I've had to borrow money

to hire a new one and the site is delayed, again. On top of that, I've pledged

80% of my profits through December 31st to the Red Cross. I may be eating

macaroni and cheese for a few weeks, but I've got it better than a lot of other

people right now. When they claimed that my education and experience were a

" farce " it really hurt me. My credentials and experience have been tested and I

will be starting office hours with a well respected local pediatrician and adult

medicine group here in Miami next month. I truly appreciate that you recognized

what they were doing. As a fellow business owner, your withdraw of support to

them shows a unified front that we believe in practicing ethical business. Thank

you.

 

I love your site. My sister has MS so as soon as I saw your support for the

foundation I was really touched by your site. It's beautiful and I really enjoy

looking at all your gorgeous products. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

 

Thanks, again, for the supporting email. I really needed it. Take good care.

 

Warm Regards,

Katherine

-

Veronica Davidson<mommyv3

< >

Monday, September 19, 2005 10:18 PM

RE: Digest Number 2218

 

 

Katherine,

I left their list at the same time you did. I met their moderator in

person and know for a fact she did not have the experience you have and

thought it was just down right rude of her and the owner to come down on

you like that publicly. I have since that incident not had anything

to do with them and will never order from them ever again or allow them

to advertise on my list. They are definitely on my bad supplier list.

 

Veronica Davidson

<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com/>>

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com/>

<http://www.friendswithms.com<http://www.friendswithms.com/>>

http://www.friendswithms.com<http://www.friendswithms.com/>

_____

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Katherine,

I left their list at the same time you did. I met their moderator in

person and know for a fact she did not have the experience you have and

thought it was just down right rude of her and the owner to come down on

you like that publicly. I have since that incident not had anything

to do with them and will never order from them ever again or allow them

to advertise on my list. They are definitely on my bad supplier list.

 

Veronica Davidson

<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com>

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com

<http://www.friendswithms.com> http://www.friendswithms.com

_____

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Katherine,

 

I also was on that list the same time you were. I'd just joined not too long

before your situation happened. I remember thinking that whole business was the

most unprofessional thing they could do. If they had any questions, they should

have contacted you offline to discuss it. I was through with them also after

that. I didn't know anyone on the list, but it didn't matter. You just don't

do things like that to fellow human beings. My gut instinct to not be involved

was correct I see.

 

Trust me, there are probably a lot more people out there that feel the way

Veronica and I do. They might have caused a little bump in the road, but I

know I'll pray that the road goes uphill from here. Your from the heart

contribution to charity will spread that good Karma. It will come back to you.

Tam

 

Mother Earth's Apothecary <motherearthsapothecary wrote:

Veronica,

I cannot tell you how much your email means to me. Although I was always

raised with Native medicine, I'm new to the " web world " and, as a business, I'm

struggling a lot. What Vivian and Ela did to me really hurt me seriously in

this community. My web designer did a horrible job and I've had to borrow money

to hire a new one and the site is delayed, again. On top of that, I've pledged

80% of my profits through December 31st to the Red Cross. I may be eating

macaroni and cheese for a few weeks, but I've got it better than a lot of other

people right now. When they claimed that my education and experience were a

" farce " it really hurt me. My credentials and experience have been tested and I

will be starting office hours with a well respected local pediatrician and adult

medicine group here in Miami next month. I truly appreciate that you recognized

what they were doing. As a fellow business owner, your withdraw of support to

them shows a unified front that we believe in

practicing ethical business. Thank you.

 

I love your site. My sister has MS so as soon as I saw your support for the

foundation I was really touched by your site. It's beautiful and I really enjoy

looking at all your gorgeous products. When I grow up, I want to be like you.

 

Thanks, again, for the supporting email. I really needed it. Take good care.

 

Warm Regards,

Katherine

-

Veronica Davidson<mommyv3

< >

Monday, September 19, 2005 10:18 PM

RE: Digest Number 2218

 

 

Katherine,

I left their list at the same time you did. I met their moderator in

person and know for a fact she did not have the experience you have and

thought it was just down right rude of her and the owner to come down on

you like that publicly. I have since that incident not had anything

to do with them and will never order from them ever again or allow them

to advertise on my list. They are definitely on my bad supplier list.

 

Veronica Davidson

<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com/>>

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com/>

<http://www.friendswithms.com<http://www.friendswithms.com/>>

http://www.friendswithms.com<http://www.friendswithms.com/>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Katherine,

I'm a firm believer in the customer is always right. I also do not

approve of their billing practices. I ordered from them 2x's and was

not happy when after the 2nd order they billed my CC an additional time

for some sort of packing fee. Instead of them charging it with the

original order they then 2 weeks later charged me 8.00 to my card for

packing materials!! Now what the heck is that about? They never asked

for my approval or notified me in any way shape or form that I was going

to be billed yet again!! I certainly wouldn't have approved it. I was

originally billed 5.00 shipping and handling fee on top of the cost of

shipping in my original order. That was the last straw for me. I

refuse to order from them. There is nothing they have that you can't

get anywhere else. In fact their prices are high even when on sale.

I then only stayed on their list to learn from the others there but

when I saw them publicly post nasty things to you and others as well

that was the finally straw. No list is that great that its worth

sitting there and watching them publicly rip people apart.

I'm sorry about your sister and her having MS. I've had it since I

was a teenager but didn't get diagnosed till I was 31. No one thought

to look at my spinal cord till I went to a specialist in Philly who

figured it out. He was the only specialist who believed in me. All of

the others I went to said I was just stressed out or depressed. Hell

they are the ones who made me so depressed. They had me thinking I was

just going crazy. I mean when you wake up and can't walk or you look

like you've had a stroke and a specialist says nothing is wrong with you

then you start to question your own sanity. This one guy in particular

did a spinal MRI and bingo!! There it was. My spinal cord looks like a

snow storm. Amazing how bad my spinal cord looks and how now I'm doing

great. Some people may have a lesion the size of the tip of a pin and

can't move anything from the neck down while others like me have dozens

of them the size of a dime and are walking and getting around really

well. It all depends on where the damage occurs on what your MS will

be like. No one knows just what will happen to you or where these spots

will show up. All my best to your sister. I hope she is doing well.

 

Veronica Davidson

<http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com>

http://www.veronicaslavishlathers.com

<http://www.friendswithms.com> http://www.friendswithms.com

_____

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/16/2006 6:48:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

 

Look at their updated privacy statement at

http://privacy./privacy.

 

About half-way down the page, in the section on cookies, you will see

a link that says WEB BEACONS.

 

Click on the phrase " Web Beacons. " On the page that opens, find a

paragraph entitled " Outside the Network. "

 

In that section find a little " Click Here to Opt Out " link that will

let you " opt-out " of their snooping. Be careful! NOT to click on the

next button shown. It is an " Opt Back In " button that, if clicked,

will UNDO the opt-out.

 

 

 

Thank you for this information!

 

*SMILE*

Léonie

 

May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends and family

that care.