Bird Flu May Be More Common, Less Deadly - but is that true for us?

[Guest guest]

There is a balance in everything. A hammer has its place and the

nutcracker another. Always is a very long time

after we die.

 

The old order changeth yielding place to new and God fulfils himself in

many ways. What was dangerous in one generation

can be tamed in the next. The type of flu vaccine I referred to is

different from those currently available.

 

None of us know if Vit C will work against H5N1 in its eventual form.

They thought the Titanic would never sink. It is for governments

to make adequate preparations. A Vat based flu vaccines should be part

of those preparations and Governments are currently not

listening, but faced with a huge death toll they will have to weigh the

risks of taking a vaccine against the death toll. I hope it will not

be too late. We should all do what we can to bring this to the attention

of our own Governments.

 

There are examples of populations being wiped out by illnesses because

of a lack of natural protection.

 

Robin.

 

The above comments are in response to Alobar's email of 18/01/2006 03:58

as quoted below:

> When speaking of vaccines, the dangers ALWAYS outweigh the risks.

>

> Taking vitamin C to bowel tolerace is both cheap and effective.

> Many people are deficient in Vitamin D, especially in winter. Cod

> liver oil can correct that easily.

>

> I have just successfully battled the worst flu I have ever

> encountered with vitamin C. I have no idea if it was " bird flu " as I

> never went to a doctor. I just upped my vitamin C.

>

> I find that when my vitamin C intake goes over 50 grams a day

> that my stomach gets upset. Luckily, I had just purchased mineral

> ascorbate powder (C-salts brand) so I could take much more C when my

> body needed it. At the peak, I took about 150 grams in a single 24

> hour period. Mostly, my dose was 60-80 grams a day. It took 2-1/2

> weeks over over 50 grams of C per day before I was able to reduce my C

> intake down to 30 grams a day, where it is now. I am not cured

> yet, but I feel far more refreshed than I have in the past 3 weeks or

> so.

>

> I slept a lot over the past 2 weeks. 10-12 hours a night, plus

> a 1-3 hour nap. I felt kinda stupid and forgetful. Chewing food was

> remarkably hard work. I had prodigeous night sweats. But other than

> that, I felt fine. Initially I had all sorts of flu symptoms, but

> they disappeared when I added C.

>

> I am convinced that vitamin C will stomp any flu.

>

> Alobar

>

>

> On 1/17/06, Robin <benfordlaw wrote:

>

>> A few days ago the above report appeared at news and was referred

>> to in a posting here.

>>

>> http://news./s/ap/20060110/ap_on_he_me/bird_flu_study

>>

>> In effect it argued that Bird Flu is not working out to be as virulent

>> as has been proposed or feared. Of course this is to be greatly

>> welcomed but it may not be true for us. Most of the upbeat reports

>> relate to South East Asia where the people have been in contact

>> with less virulent forms of the virus and have been gradually infected

>> by progressively more virulent forms. We in the West do not live

>> closely to infected birds and so have not gradually built up immunity.

>> It therefore follows that we are likely to be more severely affected

>> than South East Asians.

>>

>> I believe that there is a way in which governments can prepare for a

>> pandemic involving non egg based dna vaccines. They should not be used

>> unless the benefits out way the risk and by then we would be into a full

>> pandemic, but we would have a defence. At the moment we have none.

>>

>> Robin

>>

[Guest guest]

I have seen a good many elderly folks die of the flu, so far, this year.

All either had pneumonia or other respiratory problems and most died rather

quickly.

The oddity is that all had been vaccinated against the flu and were

treated-unsuccessfully- with antibiotics and other allopathy.

Michael

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Alobar

Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:59 PM

 

Re: Bird Flu May Be More Common, Less

Deadly - but is that true for us?

 

When speaking of vaccines, the dangers ALWAYS outweigh the risks.

 

Taking vitamin C to bowel tolerace is both cheap and effective.

Many people are deficient in Vitamin D, especially in winter. Cod

liver oil can correct that easily.

 

I have just successfully battled the worst flu I have ever

encountered with vitamin C. I have no idea if it was " bird flu " as I

never went to a doctor. I just upped my vitamin C.

 

I find that when my vitamin C intake goes over 50 grams a day

that my stomach gets upset. Luckily, I had just purchased mineral

ascorbate powder (C-salts brand) so I could take much more C when my

body needed it. At the peak, I took about 150 grams in a single 24

hour period. Mostly, my dose was 60-80 grams a day. It took 2-1/2

weeks over over 50 grams of C per day before I was able to reduce my C

intake down to 30 grams a day, where it is now. I am not cured

yet, but I feel far more refreshed than I have in the past 3 weeks or

so.

 

I slept a lot over the past 2 weeks. 10-12 hours a night, plus

a 1-3 hour nap. I felt kinda stupid and forgetful. Chewing food was

remarkably hard work. I had prodigeous night sweats. But other than

that, I felt fine. Initially I had all sorts of flu symptoms, but

they disappeared when I added C.

 

I am convinced that vitamin C will stomp any flu.

 

Alobar

 

 

On 1/17/06, Robin <benfordlaw wrote:

> A few days ago the above report appeared at news and was referred

> to in a posting here.

>

> http://news./s/ap/20060110/ap_on_he_me/bird_flu_study

>

> In effect it argued that Bird Flu is not working out to be as virulent

> as has been proposed or feared. Of course this is to be greatly

> welcomed but it may not be true for us. Most of the upbeat reports

> relate to South East Asia where the people have been in contact

> with less virulent forms of the virus and have been gradually infected

> by progressively more virulent forms. We in the West do not live

> closely to infected birds and so have not gradually built up immunity.

> It therefore follows that we are likely to be more severely affected

> than South East Asians.

>

> I believe that there is a way in which governments can prepare for a

> pandemic involving non egg based dna vaccines. They should not be used

> unless the benefits out way the risk and by then we would be into a full

> pandemic, but we would have a defence. At the moment we have none.

>

> Robin

>

[Guest guest]

Vaccinations have never been proved to be effective. They all

mess up the immune system. Maybe, I'll believe the new generation of

vaccines have promise when and if they prove themselves. Until then

I have to go by the track record of vaccinres which include lots of

immune system disorders, and lots of very sick people.

 

I really don't see how allopathic meds fits in on this list, but

I sure don't trust them.

 

What makes you say VitaminC won't be effective? Do you have

anything to bqack that up?

 

Alobar

 

 

On 1/18/06, Robin <benfordlaw wrote:

> There is a balance in everything. A hammer has its place and the

> nutcracker another. Always is a very long time

> after we die.

> The old order changeth yielding place to new and God fulfils himself in

> many ways. What was dangerous in one generation

> can be tamed in the next. The type of flu vaccine I referred to is

> different from those currently available.

>

> None of us know if Vit C will work against H5N1 in its eventual form.

> They thought the Titanic would never sink. It is for governments

> to make adequate preparations. A Vat based flu vaccines should be part

> of those preparations and Governments are currently not

> listening, but faced with a huge death toll they will have to weigh the

> risks of taking a vaccine against the death toll. I hope it will not

> be too late. We should all do what we can to bring this to the attention

> of our own Governments.

>

> There are examples of populations being wiped out by illnesses because

> of a lack of natural protection.

>

> Robin.

>