Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 , " luv_yoga_2 " <luv_yoga_2 wrote: > > Hi, > > I just came from my doctor, who told me I have a high level of mercury in my blood. Since I'm not a seafood eater, my doctor believes it is due to my fillings. > > I've been suffering from lightheadedness, anxiety, palpitations, fatigue, along with other symptoms for a year of so. Has anyone ever heard of mercury causing these symptoms? Is there a set protocal for removing the fillings? He has suggested I see a dentist who specializes in this. I'd be grateful for any advice. > > Thank you so much. > > Marianne > Dear Marianne, Just for once, your doctor is right! Thank your lucky stars for a good MD who is actually open to the idea that modern dentistry might have some side effects. Yes, Mercury can cause those symptoms and then some. You need to find a wholistic dentist, and work carefully to undo the damage. Mercury can get chelated out of the body, but this should be done under supervision. The most effective product to remove mercury from the blood is cilantro. The amazing Ingrid Naiman has a concentrated cilantro product, and a wealth of information on the topic. Go to http://ingridnaiman.com and put Mercury in the site's search engine. Please let us know how you are doing from time to time. All the best Ien in the Kootenays, still waiting for snowmelt http://freeplants.info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Greetings. Possible low level mercury poisoning? You need a neurological work up just to look for brain damadge! Look up mercury poisoning and natural techniques to remove mercury from your body! Thats as far as i am going to go on this one. Blessings of the Netjer Shaman Odin On 01/04/2009, luv_yoga_2 <luv_yoga_2 wrote: > Hi, > > I just came from my doctor, who told me I have a high level of mercury in my > blood. Since I'm not a seafood eater, my doctor believes it is due to my > fillings. > > I've been suffering from lightheadedness, anxiety, palpitations, fatigue, > along with other symptoms for a year of so. Has anyone ever heard of > mercury causing these symptoms? Is there a set protocal for removing the > fillings? He has suggested I see a dentist who specializes in this. I'd be > grateful for any advice. > > Thank you so much. > > Marianne > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 They been saying that for at least 25 years. I suffer from anxiety and I did have alot of fillings in my mouth. Now, most are gone and I have crowns, but still have the attacks. I never had my mercury levels tested, so I dont know how high they are. I do think the fillings may have had something to do with the attacks. --- On Wed, 4/1/09, luv_yoga_2 <luv_yoga_2 wrote: luv_yoga_2 <luv_yoga_2 High Mercury levels from fillings Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 10:56 AM Hi, I just came from my doctor, who told me I have a high level of mercury in my blood. Since I'm not a seafood eater, my doctor believes it is due to my fillings. I've been suffering from lightheadedness, anxiety, palpitations, fatigue, along with other symptoms for a year of so. Has anyone ever heard of mercury causing these symptoms? Is there a set protocal for removing the fillings? He has suggested I see a dentist who specializes in this. I'd be grateful for any advice. Thank you so much. Marianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Hi Marianne, Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 See a dentist who SPECIALIZES in that. There is a special procedure, and they have to be very, very careful. I know of one lady who had her mercury removed and ended up having a stroke. I think it was because she inhaled mercury vapor during the procedure. - " luv_yoga_2 " <luv_yoga_2 Wednesday, April 01, 2009 7:56 AM High Mercury levels from fillings > Hi, > > I just came from my doctor, who told me I have a high level of mercury in > my blood. Since I'm not a seafood eater, my doctor believes it is due to > my fillings. > > I've been suffering from lightheadedness, anxiety, palpitations, fatigue, > along with other symptoms for a year of so. Has anyone ever heard of > mercury causing these symptoms? Is there a set protocal for removing the > fillings? He has suggested I see a dentist who specializes in this. I'd > be grateful for any advice. > > Thank you so much. > > Marianne > > > > --- > > ********************************************* > Peacefulmind.com Sponsors Alternative Answers- > > HEALING NATURALLY- Learn preventative and curative measure to take for > many ailments at: > > http://www.peacefulmind.com/ailments.htm > __________ > > -To INVITE A FRIEND to our healing community, copy and paste this address > in an email to them: > > http://health./subs_invite > > _________ > To ADD A LINK, RESOURCE, OR WEBSITE to Alternative Answers please Go to: > > http://health./links > > ___________ > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > _______ > Shortcut URL to this page: > http://health.! Groups > Links > > > -- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.35/2034 - Release 04/01/09 06:06:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart disease and kidney failure. Everything. And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it will wreak havoc. There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to having the tooth removed. This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes many years). There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. Dominic Bere , " Carol " <carol wrote: > > Hi Marianne, > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - > > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2009 Report Share Posted April 4, 2009 Ok, here is my question: now that I really understand the poisoning, I have about 11 fillings, root canals 2-4; if I don't have the money now, what are my options...make it my goal to get some and get this done? I thought I'd have to wait a couple of years, financially, and considered having all my teeth removed and dentures...but wouldn't that just be more toxins? If you have answers, nobody else has had any to these questions! Hey, thank you very much in advance for your input!! marilyn --- On Sat, 4/4/09, dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere wrote: dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Saturday, April 4, 2009, 9:12 AM Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart disease and kidney failure. Everything. And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it will wreak havoc. There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to having the tooth removed. This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes many years). There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. Dominic Bere , " Carol " <carol wrote: > > Hi Marianne, > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9ylnQ-T7oiA > > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2009 Report Share Posted April 5, 2009 yes, i would like the formula for the chlorella mouth wash. at this time, i take orally, 7-8 blue green algae daily . i do think it may be increased. have you any info on MMS ? thank you Dominic, laura --- On Sat, 4/4/09, marilyn brent <usasinnersaved wrote: marilyn brent <usasinnersaved Re: Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Saturday, April 4, 2009, 1:19 PM Ok, here is my question: now that I really understand the poisoning, I have about 11 fillings, root canals 2-4; if I don't have the money now, what are my options...make it my goal to get some and get this done? I thought I'd have to wait a couple of years, financially, and considered having all my teeth removed and dentures...but wouldn't that just be more toxins? If you have answers, nobody else has had any to these questions! Hey, thank you very much in advance for your input!! marilyn --- On Sat, 4/4/09, dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere wrote: dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Saturday, April 4, 2009, 9:12 AM Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart disease and kidney failure. Everything. And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it will wreak havoc. There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to having the tooth removed. This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes many years). There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. Dominic Bere , " Carol " <carol wrote: > > Hi Marianne, > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9ylnQ-T7oiA > > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 My dentist said the most cost-effective way was to have two, or three fillings dealt with at a time. Two or three is all that you should get done on one day anyway, ideally. So top right, top left, bottom right, bottom left, in the order the dentist best sees fit. Root canals are a difficult one. Are they mercury (amalgam) filled? If so I will find out, if you like, the general advice on that. I know that Klinghardt, while leaving it up to the individual, considers them 'dead wood'. Like you say, dentures are not a good idea. Not only toxins (eg. plastic is hormone-disrupting) but also your face may collapse - gradually, it is true, but you don't want to be faced with that sort of problem in old age. Hope I have helped Dominic , marilyn brent <usasinnersaved wrote: > > Ok, here is my question: now that I really understand the poisoning, I have about 11 fillings, root canals 2-4; if I don't have the money now, what are my options...make it my goal to get some and get this done? I thought I'd have to wait a couple of years, financially, and considered having all my teeth removed and dentures...but wouldn't that just be more toxins? > If you have answers, nobody else has had any to these questions! > Hey, thank you very much in advance for your input!! > marilyn > > --- On Sat, 4/4/09, dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere wrote: > > dominictamlynbere <dominictamlynbere > Re: High Mercury levels from fillings > > Saturday, April 4, 2009, 9:12 AM > > > > > > Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. > > > > My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... > > > > We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth > > full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification > > process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her > > mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was > > discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had > > returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that > > deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. > > > > The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't > > want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You > > want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out > > through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the > > way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain > > cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing > > it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. > > > > So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the > > colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end > > of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is > > very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by > > something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that > > will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and > > redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken > > out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even > > worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a > > natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you > > start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It > > is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both > > MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you > > take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. > > > > You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget > > about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about > > you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year > > that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer > > to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to > > remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it > > transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and > > like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. > > > > You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, > > they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to > > man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every > > known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart > > disease and kidney failure. Everything. > > > > And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is > > lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the > > mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the > > mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of > > their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into > > an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. > > > > Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is > > this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " > > The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will > > deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you > > will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, > > if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling > > where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it > > will wreak havoc. > > > > There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits > > mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional > > trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is > > released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. > > > > Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but > > only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the > > baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury > > also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a > > high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you > > have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a > > safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood > > cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver > > point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, > > the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep > > in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to > > having the tooth removed. > > > > This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of > > mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. > > Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the > > mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes > > many years). > > > > There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way > > mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of > > EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to > > depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a > > few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: > > you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures > > that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. > > > > If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. > > > > Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. > > > > Dominic Bere > > > > , " Carol " <carol@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Marianne, > > > > > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9ylnQ-T7oiA > > > > > > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > > > > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > > > > > Carol > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Hi Marilyn- I would personally see an AK Chiropractor/Naturopath with experience in mercury toxicity/fillings removal before doing anything. Everyone is different. Everyone metabolizes differently. One detox agent that might work well for one, might be far too much for someone else and make them worse. The type of natural Dr. I mentioned uses muscle-testing to determine many things, including what array of supplements or treatments would best facilitate your own detox protocol. And whether or not, removing your mercury fillings right now is the top priority for your body. For example, you may have candida or parasites or something else to address first. Then assuming you've got the $ to get started, do just one quadrant of your mouth at a time- and only with a well-recommended holistic dentist who follows proper removal procedures. (including a dental dam and this big suction machine that looks like it came out of a Dr. Seuss book!) Detoxing from mercury and all the other garbage our bodies have accumulated is a lengthy gradual process, at least it has been for me...If you are super healthy in general and not very toxic other than the mercury, perhaps you can detox faster. But either way, it's a fine balance of getting the stuff out of your cells, and then getting it safely out of your body. Oh, and being able to function and live your life while you're going through this... Good luck, Janet marilyn brent <usasinnersaved wrote: > > Ok, here is my question: now that I really understand the poisoning, I have about 11 fillings, root canals 2-4; if I don't have the money now, what are my options...make it my goal to get some and get this done? I thought I'd have to wait a couple of years, financially, and considered having all my teeth removed and dentures...but wouldn't that just be more toxins? > If you have answers, nobody else has had any to these questions! > Hey, thank you very much in advance for your input!! > marilyn > > -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 While in practice years ago as an orthomolecular psychologist, I was fortunate enough to be mentored by Carl Pfeiffer, the real expert on minerals and chelation. I also studied Linus Pauling. Since I was not an MD, I could not do chelation of heavy metals with EDTA or penicillamine, so I used what I could, and found it to work very well. Very few persons have enough mercury fillings to be dangerous in and of themselves, however, added to the mercury load in the air, water, soil and fish today, the cumulative effect is horrible for health. While in practice, I used what I still consider to be the very best chelation chemical of all - Vitamin C. While it is not as fast as EDTA et al, it is completely safe. The only possible bad side effect is diarrhea. It can even be given to infants. A huge advantage is that Vitamin C combines with all minerals to form a non dangerous metabolite that is water soluble, and is harmless to the brain in the blood. Two other advantages - it's cheap, and it promotes many other health benefits! (The RDA is stupidly low at 75 mg per day. That amount prevents scurvy, but it takes upwards of 4000 mg per day for good health.) I used 10 grams per day (10,000mg) in split doses for chelation for adults, and lower proportions for infants or children, working up to such doses if bowel tolerance is reached initially. Very few MD's seem to be aware of the problems caused directly by high levels of lead, copper, mercury, etc. And fewer still are aware that it is very difficult to get an accurate level of these in the body. There are three tests in use today. Blood, urine, and hair. Blood measures what is present right now. Urine measures what was in the blood 12-24 hours ago, and hair measured what was in the blood over the past months. Here's where accuracy comes into the equation. It seems that the liver can't (or won't) release toxic minerals back into the blood stream UNLESS there is some chelation chemical present that can chelate it out of the body. This simply means that unless vitamin C, glutathione, or other chelate is present, a minimum level of any toxic metal will be present to be measured against " normal " nutritional minerals such as calcium and magnesium. So, according to these false ratios measured, the person may be shown as " not toxic " - a false negative. Autistic persons have a definite shortage of both vitamin C and gutathione, and all too often are shown low in mercury because of the facts above. Big Pharma knows this, and confuses courts and judges as a result. To get even close to accuracy in any tests, it is necessary to " pre-load " the patient with high levels of some chelate that will allow the liver to release such toxics. Vitamin C is excellent for this. For more information see http://drbate.com/Ref/chelation.html http://drbate.com/Ref/autism.html http://drbate.com/Ref/hair.html -- Phil Bate PhD http://drbate.com - Free Alternate Health Advice Neuroliminal Training (NT) helps solve mental problems without drugs at low cost. ADD to Autism, Insomnia to depression & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Contact a mercury free dentist and see your options. (Google mercury free dentist- some take insurance.) I had four mercury fillings removed from my mouth without problems. Lynne **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221421323x1201417385/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 So, possibly, with all my fillings, I could be somewhere in the middle, since I eat an organic diet and MMS and Essiac plus a few supplements...? --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Dr Bate <drbate wrote: > Dr Bate <drbate > Re: High Mercury levels from fillings > > Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 6:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > While in practice years ago as an > orthomolecular psychologist, I was > > fortunate enough to be mentored by Carl Pfeiffer, the real > expert on > > minerals and chelation. I also studied Linus Pauling. > Since I was not > > an MD, I could not do chelation of heavy metals with EDTA > or > > penicillamine, so I used what I could, and found it to work > very well. > > > > Very few persons have enough mercury fillings to be > dangerous in and of > > themselves, however, added to the mercury load in the air, > water, soil > > and fish today, the cumulative effect is horrible for > health. > > > > While in practice, I used what I still consider to be the > very best > > chelation chemical of all - Vitamin C. While it is not as > fast as EDTA > > et al, it is completely safe. The only possible bad side > effect is > > diarrhea. It can even be given to infants. A huge > advantage is that > > Vitamin C combines with all minerals to form a non > dangerous metabolite > > that is water soluble, and is harmless to the brain in the > blood. Two > > other advantages - it's cheap, and it promotes many > other health > > benefits! (The RDA is stupidly low at 75 mg per day. > That amount > > prevents scurvy, but it takes upwards of 4000 mg per day > for good health.) > > > > I used 10 grams per day (10,000mg) in split doses for > chelation for > > adults, and lower proportions for infants or children, > working up to > > such doses if bowel tolerance is reached initially. > > > > Very few MD's seem to be aware of the problems caused > directly by high > > levels of lead, copper, mercury, etc. And fewer still are > aware that it > > is very difficult to get an accurate level of these in the > body. There > > are three tests in use today. Blood, urine, and hair. > Blood measures > > what is present right now. Urine measures what was in the > blood 12-24 > > hours ago, and hair measured what was in the blood over the > past months. > > > > Here's where accuracy comes into the equation. It > seems that the liver > > can't (or won't) release toxic minerals back into > the blood stream > > UNLESS there is some chelation chemical present that can > chelate it out > > of the body. > > > > This simply means that unless vitamin C, glutathione, or > other chelate > > is present, a minimum level of any toxic metal will be > present to be > > measured against " normal " nutritional minerals > such as calcium and > > magnesium. So, according to these false ratios measured, > the person may > > be shown as " not toxic " - a false negative. > > > > Autistic persons have a definite shortage of both vitamin C > and > > gutathione, and all too often are shown low in mercury > because of the > > facts above. Big Pharma knows this, and confuses courts > and judges as a > > result. > > > > To get even close to accuracy in any tests, it is necessary > to > > " pre-load " the patient with high levels of some > chelate that will allow > > the liver to release such toxics. Vitamin C is excellent > for this. > > > > For more information see http://drbate. > com/Ref/chelatio n.html > > http://drbate. > com/Ref/autism. html > > http://drbate. > com/Ref/hair. html > > > > -- > > > > Phil Bate PhD > > http://drbate. com - Free > Alternate Health Advice > > > > Neuroliminal Training (NT) helps solve > > mental problems without drugs at low cost. > > ADD to Autism, Insomnia to depression & more. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Hi Dominic, I would love to have any and all information that you have regarding amalgam fillings (I have only a five.but five is too many) and what to replace them with once I start discussing it with a new dentist in the next couple weeks. And I would look forward to the information about the detoxification process, where to get chlorella (reliable source, brand name etc.) and how to take it. Thank you so VERY much. Lisa _____ On Behalf Of dominictamlynbere Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:13 AM Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart disease and kidney failure. Everything. And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it will wreak havoc. There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to having the tooth removed. This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes many years). There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. Dominic Bere @ <%40> , " Carol " <carol wrote: > > Hi Marianne, > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - http://www.youtube. < com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA> > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Incidentally, what causes the diarrhoea associated with Vitamin C? Even 1g causes extreme, total diarrhoea in me. Dominic , Dr Bate <drbate wrote: > > While in practice years ago as an orthomolecular psychologist, I was > fortunate enough to be mentored by Carl Pfeiffer, the real expert on > minerals and chelation. I also studied Linus Pauling. Since I was not > an MD, I could not do chelation of heavy metals with EDTA or > penicillamine, so I used what I could, and found it to work very well. > > Very few persons have enough mercury fillings to be dangerous in and of > themselves, however, added to the mercury load in the air, water, soil > and fish today, the cumulative effect is horrible for health. > > While in practice, I used what I still consider to be the very best > chelation chemical of all - Vitamin C. While it is not as fast as EDTA > et al, it is completely safe. The only possible bad side effect is > diarrhea. It can even be given to infants. A huge advantage is that > Vitamin C combines with all minerals to form a non dangerous metabolite > that is water soluble, and is harmless to the brain in the blood. Two > other advantages - it's cheap, and it promotes many other health > benefits! (The RDA is stupidly low at 75 mg per day. That amount > prevents scurvy, but it takes upwards of 4000 mg per day for good health.) > > I used 10 grams per day (10,000mg) in split doses for chelation for > adults, and lower proportions for infants or children, working up to > such doses if bowel tolerance is reached initially. > > Very few MD's seem to be aware of the problems caused directly by high > levels of lead, copper, mercury, etc. And fewer still are aware that it > is very difficult to get an accurate level of these in the body. There > are three tests in use today. Blood, urine, and hair. Blood measures > what is present right now. Urine measures what was in the blood 12-24 > hours ago, and hair measured what was in the blood over the past months. > > Here's where accuracy comes into the equation. It seems that the liver > can't (or won't) release toxic minerals back into the blood stream > UNLESS there is some chelation chemical present that can chelate it out > of the body. > > This simply means that unless vitamin C, glutathione, or other chelate > is present, a minimum level of any toxic metal will be present to be > measured against " normal " nutritional minerals such as calcium and > magnesium. So, according to these false ratios measured, the person may > be shown as " not toxic " - a false negative. > > Autistic persons have a definite shortage of both vitamin C and > gutathione, and all too often are shown low in mercury because of the > facts above. Big Pharma knows this, and confuses courts and judges as a > result. > > To get even close to accuracy in any tests, it is necessary to > " pre-load " the patient with high levels of some chelate that will allow > the liver to release such toxics. Vitamin C is excellent for this. > > For more information see http://drbate.com/Ref/chelation.html > http://drbate.com/Ref/autism.html > http://drbate.com/Ref/hair.html > > -- > > Phil Bate PhD > http://drbate.com - Free Alternate Health Advice > > Neuroliminal Training (NT) helps solve > mental problems without drugs at low cost. > ADD to Autism, Insomnia to depression & more. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Dear Laura Janet (on another thread) is certainly right in saying that anyone would be better going to the kinds of professional she recommends before going to the dentist - to find out exactly the right regime for his or her body. But everyone is gifted with an intuition and when it comes down to it, everyone must decide for him or herself whether to 'go it alone' or not. There are also charlatans out there. I have had some experience of this. In Britain there seem to be virtually no kinesaeologists specialising in amalgam removal, or toxicology - unless I was just looking in the wrong places. Klinghardt's website, www.neuraltherapy.com has changed since I downloaded lots of essays from it. You could look on it and see if it has still got the information on amounts of chlorella etc. to take - he recommends slowly increasing and decreasing in waves, and integrating this with tiny amounts of cilantro etc (cilantro should never be taken on it's own as it's so powerful, and requires chlorella to help take the toxins it releases, out of the body). If not, get back to me. I have been looking at my notes regarding the mouthwash. Immediately BEFORE the amalgam removal procedure, Klinghardt recommends taking 5 grams of chlorella powder (or equivalent in tablets). When you treat yourself AFTER the procedure the important thing to remember is NOT TO SWOLLOW IT. The idea is that you take the same amount of chlorella into the mouth (5 grams: if you have tablets, either crush them up beforehand or chew them there and then - after a minute in the mouth they crunch up more easily) and keep it there 10 minutes. During this time it should absorb the free toxins - obviously, you spread it round your mouth - and then you spit it out. He suggests doing this at night, too. Chlorella will remove mercury and other toxins from your body but apparently will not remove them from the brain. For that you need cilantro, at the same time as chlorella. I don't know if I said in my last posting but there are often emotional factors to be taken into consideration, and some sort of therapy is a good idea. Get back to me after looking at www.neuraltherapy.com and seeing if the information you need is still there (I haven't looked in a long time). Dominic Bere , laura mundorf <mundorf54498 wrote: > > yes, i would like the formula for the chlorella mouth wash. at this time, i take orally, 7-8 blue green algae daily . i do think it may be increased. have you any info on MMS ? thank you Dominic, laura Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Marianne, I haven't had time to read my digests in along time now but I used to post frequently about this topic since it was one that affected my daughter and myself quite badly. My daughter was born with kidney damage and had daily migraine headaches, worsening with weather changes. I was severely brain fogged and my liver just wouldn't detox anything so stuff would come out through my skin. We did many different therapies and experimented with lot of supplements over the years too. Most did absolutely nothing. I had some success with my energy levels using an Aqua Chi and it also enabled a fungal condition to go away. We got our bowels in perfect working order with a probiotic superfood--mercury likes to live in the bowel so you need to keep that going at least 3 times a day. The most important thing for us was coming across Natural Cellular Defense which is a patented form of zeolite. In less than 10 days it was like a cloud lifted from my brain, my energy levels rose dramatically, my daughter's migraines vanished (2.5 years later they have still not returned), her bedwetting stopped almost instantly and PMS went away for me too. That may have taken a bit longer. I didn't really pay attention to the timing with that, just noticed one day I didn't have it anymore. I had my liver tested over a year ago and it was apparently in better shape than most people's my age. This is nothing short of a miracle since my liver enzymes were sky-high and nothing could bring them down. I credit this to the NCD since I didn't do anything different. NCD will remove mercury, lead, cadmium, arsenic, aluminum, tin, barium, etc. All highly charged toxic metals. It does so in a safe manner. The metals are trapped inside the zeolite's cage-like structure and are passed safely through the urine within about 6 hours. It typically takes an average of 6 weeks of detox to bring the body burden down to nothing. Of course if you're a dentist, welder, etc it needs to be taken daily for life to eliminate the new burden coming in daily. It's safe to use with existing amalgam fillings. It just passively goes through the bloodstream pulling via it's electrical charge. It cannot pull mercury out of fillings as some other chelators apparently do. If you email me I can send you some files about it. If you want to try it you can get it via my website: www.detoxqueen.com. If you want a personal consult just fill out the form and I'll call you. This is considerably cheaper than chelation therapy which requires you use alkalizing mineral and vitamin infusions to replace what the chelation pulls out. The NCD doesn't remove the good stuff. As a matter of fact when you remove the metals, it frees us the receptor site for good minerals like calcium, iron, zinc, etc so those levels can rise without even using extra supplementation. One of my colleagues measured this in a bunch of his clients. I'll try and keep an eye out for posts now but if you have questions and I don't respond, email me privately. Life is very busy this week! As far as removal protocol goes this is what my holistic dentist did. First we tested compatibility of dental materials. He removed one quadrant every 3 months and put temporary fillings/crowns in place. When they were all out (over a year later) he put in gold. It's not safe to have two metals in the mouth at the same time. It creates a battery-like effect in the head. I was allergic to the glue they use for porcelain. Gold happened to be safer for me personally. Everyone is different though. Gold used to be the standard. Now zirconium is popular. Sharon Hoehner www.sharethecause.com/detoxqueen for 10 minute video (not a sales site) about environmental toxins. Don't fill out the form unless you want me to contact you! , " luv_yoga_2 " <luv_yoga_2 wrote: > > Hi, > > I just came from my doctor, who told me I have a high level of mercury in my blood. Since I'm not a seafood eater, my doctor believes it is due to my fillings. > > I've been suffering from lightheadedness, anxiety, palpitations, fatigue, along with other symptoms for a year of so. Has anyone ever heard of mercury causing these symptoms? Is there a set protocal for removing the fillings? He has suggested I see a dentist who specializes in this. I'd be grateful for any advice. > > Thank you so much. > > Marianne > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Personally, I use the organic wild blue green algae that is grown in the US - that's the kind my holistic dentist recommended. Most of the chlorella you buy is man-grown in culture pools in China - so it's only as good as what somebody feeds it. The wild algae will not grow in polluted water, whereas chlorella will grow in water that contains heavy metals such as lead, cadmium and mercury (I'm not saying that all chlorella grows in waters like this, just saying that it is possible for it to grow in polluted water). Chlorella has a cellulose wall that is not digested by humans, which means that, because of the cellulose wall, the vitamins/minerals have low bioavailability. The wild blue green algae has a glycogen cell wall which is a source of energy. Carol , " Lisa " <blacksands wrote: where to get chlorella (reliable source, brand name etc.) and how > to take it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Hi Dominic- Have you checked out this site? Looks like it could be a good resource for U.K. Applied Kinesiology practitioners. (and their training specifies using AK for help detoxing from heavy metals) http://www.hk4health.co.uk/register.htm Be well, Janet " dominictamlynbere " <dominictamlynbere wrote: > > Dear Laura Janet (on another thread) is certainly right in saying that anyone would be better going to the kinds of professional she recommends before going to the dentist - to find out exactly the right regime for his or her body. In Britain there seem to be virtually no kinesaeologists specialising in amalgam removal, or toxicology - unless I was just looking in the wrong places. > Dominic Bere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Hi Lisa, Please try iherb.com, i've been buying various supplements from them. their price is very cheap, you may choose NOWFOOD brand. Bernard --- On Wed, 4/8/09, Lisa <blacksands wrote: Lisa <blacksands RE: Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:35 AM Hi Dominic, I would love to have any and all information that you have regarding amalgam fillings (I have only a five.but five is too many) and what to replace them with once I start discussing it with a new dentist in the next couple weeks. And I would look forward to the information about the detoxification process, where to get chlorella (reliable source, brand name etc.) and how to take it. Thank you so VERY much. Lisa _____ [] On Behalf Of dominictamlynbere Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:13 AM Re: High Mercury levels from fillings Just to continue the conversation, I will copy what I wrote a few months ago for another group. It goes into a bit more detail about detoxification procedure. Be careful. The dentist I go to, though the chief anti-mercury proponent for the whole city I live in, will not offer advice on detoxification. I tried to change his mind on that, for the sake of others, but he just said, " Everyone who comes here has their own ideas... " He clearly didn't want to put anybody off coming to him by disputing with them - but the result was that people came and had their mercury fillings out in the proper DENTAL manner (eg. rubber dam) but without the protection of proper nutritional protocol. My girlfriend had her mercury fillings out, and the copied letter continues... We started taking measures to detoxify ourselves - I had had a mouth full of mercury also - and one day Mary stepped up the detoxification process, but quickly cut back again after the taste returned to her mouth again. For yes, the taste which I could taste on her lips, was discernable to her also. The fact that the horrible taste had returned proved that the detoxification process was working, and that deposits lodged here and there in her body or brain, were coming out. The process of detoxification is a difficult one, because you don't want to stir up the deposits, only for them to settle elsewhere. You want to get them out of the body. You don't want to get them out through the kidneys, because they will damage the kidney cells on the way out, and the kidney cells are almost irreplaceable, like brain cells. So you don't want to listen to people who talk about 'flushing it out' with the help of a strong detoxification product. So the best route to remove them by is the bowel. Cells lining the colon are renewed every three days, so damaging them won't be the end of the world. The obstacle to get around here is that the colon is very rich in nerve endings, and if the mercury is not carried out by something that will hold on to it very firmly indeed, then all that will happen is that it will be re-absorbed by these nerves and redistributed to some other part of the body. It may even be taken out of the body and deposited in the brain, which of course is even worse. So the way to remove it safely is using chlorella, which is a natural algae. There are specific quantities you should take. If you start to OVER-detoxify, you should take MORE, not less chlorella. It is counter-intuitive, but the explanation is that chlorella both MOBILISES and CHELATES (binds to) mercury. The more chlorella you take, the more the balance is in favour of chelating. You may be wondering if you should just leave it in there, and forget about it. Well, you may forget about it, but it will not forget about you. The clock is ticking. Every day and every month and every year that it is left in your body or brain, it is working it's way nearer to the nucleus of your cells, and is becoming harder and harder to remove. And the damage it is doing is greater and greater: it transforms into more and more dangerous forms as time goes on, and like blue asbestos it works over the decades, not the years. You might wonder what the symptoms of mercury poisoning are. Well, they are all the symptoms of all the diseases and conditions known to man, both of mind and body. Mercury can CAUSE or EXACERBATE every known illness. From 'clutter syndrome' and schizophrenia to heart disease and kidney failure. Everything. And it is the 'king of toxins' because in many cases where there is lead poisoning or zinc or some other heavy metal poisoning, it is the mercury which is holding it in there. As soon as you get rid of the mercury, the other poisons can be removed, too, and they often go of their own accord. Prior to this time, even injections directly into an organ will sometimes not remove another kind of heavy metal. Mercury can deposit anywhere in the body, as I have said. " How is this? " you might ask, " Why is it sometimes here and sometimes there? " The answer is that the body is an intelligent thing, and it will deposit the mercury wherever it sees fit. If it is in the brain you will get alzheimer's, if it is in the joints you will get arthritis, if it in the heart you will get heart disease. There is no telling where it may end up, but the only certainty is that once there it will wreak havoc. There seems to be an emotional connection to where the body deposits mercury. So much so that if you are holding on to an emotional trauma, the poison will not leave the body till the trauma is released. So psychodrama is often an essential part of treatment. Mercury, like other heavy metals, is anti-viral and antibacterial but only for a time. Wherever it has been deposited for a while, the baceria and viruses will begin to multiply. This is because mercury also disables your immune system. Bacteria and viruses can adapt to a high heavy-metal environment, but your immune system cannot. So you have a situation where heavy metal deposits are actually providing a safe haven for all sorts of undesirables, which your white blood cells cannot get near. This is the situation if you have 'silver point' root fillings instead of the safe, gutta purka ones. At first, the silver is beneficial. But after ten years the rot starts to creep in. With bacteria in the jawbone, there is then no alternative to having the tooth removed. This is a very quick over-view of the difficulties and drama of mercury poisoning, which is inevitable with mercury amalgam fillings. Don't even think of having a baby until you have not only got all the mercury out of your teeth but also detoxed successfully (it takes many years). There are many medical matters I have not covered, such as the way mercury interferes with the conversion (and therefore utilisation) of EPA (one part of Omega Three oil). Low EPA is linked firmly to depression; ME; schizophrenia; furring up of arteries, to name but a few conditions. This is why the action of mercury is so far-ranging: you just disable a few key functions, and the domino effect ensures that the results, though unpredictable, are catastrophic. If anyone wants any further information (for instance the procedure for washing the mouth out with powdered chlorella immediately after the procedure) I will be happy to provide it. Lastly, Klinghardt recommends that you find yourself a 'biological doctor' to determine exactly the right amount of chlorella, etc., for your own individual body. Dominic Bere @ <Alternative Answers%40g roups.com> . com, " Carol " <carol wrote: > > Hi Marianne, > > Yes - mercury will cause that, and other problems as well. I have a friend who used to have MS, took all her mercury fillings out, and no longer has MS. Your fillings are constantly giving off toxins, even if they are decades old. Check out this video - http://www.youtube. <http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=9ylnQ-T7oiA> com/watch?v= 9ylnQ-T7oiA > > There is a definite protocol for removing mercury safely. Try to find a holistic dentist. I know they have to put some type of dam in your mouth so you don't swallow any. Do a google search to find the way mercury fillings are safely removed. > > I have a holistic dentist, and I also have tons of mercury fillings from years ago. We are going to work on removing them (no dental insurance - will be very costly!). He said in the meantime, take a lot of the organic powdered blue green algae - it's a very good detoxifier. > > Carol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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