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To Moderators/owners or TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

 

I didn't know we would or could talk politics in this room. as you can tell, i am very upset about this. this is not my group so I don't want to say what should or shouldn't be posted in here and I really believe in the second amendment.. also, I know that I am not a moderator or owner of this group. don't we have enough hate AMERICA ...hate ashcroft...hate EVERYTHING around here...i mean the usa.....if it is a rule that we can talk politics and if anything goes then I guess i will have to leave the group because I don't understand what politics has to do w/ herbal remedies...and I HAVE done my homework AND I am educated on alot of issues and ideas. I don't care if you are liberal, conservative, green party, third party, marxist party, WHATEVER.....but can't we please not bash OUR country like there is not tomorrow???? let me know if this is going to be the norm or not....i am not trying to be rude, mean or idiotic....but doesn't that make sense not

to talk politics in a room that is not political.....it just stirs up trouble and makes everyone angry no matter what part of the political spectrum that each individual person is on......THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!! I joined this group for help on my health...NOT for america bashing!

 

I know I will probably be kicked off most likely after this note but I am trying not to be either insulting OR condescending....

 

Love

SusanKelli Bever <kelli wrote:

 

Hi Caroline,

 

Maybe your son is detoxing after being off his "normal routine" at the grandparents'. I know that my daughter (almost 10 yrs old) woke up with a zit this morning after being on a road trip with Grandma last week (and eating McDonalds most of the week - YUCK!). Obviously, getting him back on a good diet with lots of water is a good idea. Maybe others have suggestions for dealing directly with the rash.

 

:)Kelli

 

 

Caroline [ladyguinevere] Monday, June 21, 2004 12:38 PMherbal_Remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - help?

My son went to his grandparents house the weekend before this past one. I picked him back up on Tuesday afternoon of last week. Since that time he has these little bumps that are all over his chest, back neck and even behind his ears. Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting

advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington

 

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I agree with you, Susan. Alerting the group to an issue (like it started out as) is one thing - but the hate and bashing is getting out of hand. So much negativity is bad for anyone's health.

 

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We don't normally talk politics. This thread started due to an effort by Bush to screen the US population for mental illness so they can receive the treatments supplied by his buddies the pharmoconglomerates. This screening is to start with INFANTS. It's political and health related. We keep a very short leash on politics here. This conversation happens to be inseparably connected.

I don't hate America. Most (if not all) people here love America. It makes us angry to see out freedoms taken away in the name of "safety". My little boy would be classified as ADHD and if I sent him to school I would be forced to put him on ritilan. Never mind that the only thing that makes him like that is sugar and high fructose corn syrup. I've been on this list for almost 2 years and this is the first allowed topic on politics.

If you have information on such issues PLEASE share! I am always looking for more information. That is why I joined this list.

-Shelby

 

susan leach [onechildwld1]Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:26 AMherbal remedies Subject: Herbal Remedies - RE: Political views in a herbal group...to moderators/owners/etc....

To Moderators/owners or TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

 

I didn't know we would or could talk politics in this room. as you can tell, i am very upset about this. this is not my group so I don't want to say what should or shouldn't be posted in here and I really believe in the second amendment.. also, I know that I am not a moderator or owner of this group. don't we have enough hate AMERICA ...hate ashcroft...hate EVERYTHING around here...i mean the usa.....if it is a rule that we can talk politics and if anything goes then I guess i will have to leave the group because I don't understand what politics has to do w/ herbal remedies...and I HAVE done my homework AND I am educated on alot of issues and ideas. I don't care if you are liberal, conservative, green party, third party, marxist party, WHATEVER.....but can't we please not bash OUR country like there is not tomorrow???? let me know if this is going to be the norm or not....i am not trying to be rude, mean or idiotic....but doesn't that make sense not to talk politics in a room that is not political.....it just stirs up trouble and makes everyone angry no matter what part of the political spectrum that each individual person is on......THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!! I joined this group for help on my health...NOT for america bashing!

 

I know I will probably be kicked off most likely after this note but I am trying not to be either insulting OR condescending....

 

Love

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Dear Susan,

You will not be kicked off for expressing your opinion on this. I personally opened up this thread and made it FAIR GAME.

Normally we do NOT discuss politics on HR, but because the President himself crossed the line and is attempting to force the entire US population to undergo mental testing, it was necessary to open this area of politics up for discussion as our Human Rights are in danger of being violated. This is tooooooo serious an issue to just let pass.

We need to be protesting this with vehemence.

Love,

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington

 

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susan leach

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Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:25 AM

Herbal Remedies - RE: Political views in a herbal group...to moderators/owners/etc....

 

To Moderators/owners or TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

 

I didn't know we would or could talk politics in this room. as you can tell, i am very upset about this. this is not my group so I don't want to say what should or shouldn't be posted in here and I really believe in the second amendment.. also, I know that I am not a moderator or owner of this group. don't we have enough hate AMERICA ...hate ashcroft...hate EVERYTHING around here...i mean the usa.....if it is a rule that we can talk politics and if anything goes then I guess i will have to leave the group because I don't understand what politics has to do w/ herbal remedies...and I HAVE done my homework AND I am educated on alot of issues and ideas. I don't care if you are liberal, conservative, green party, third party, marxist party, WHATEVER.....but can't we please not bash OUR country like there is not tomorrow???? let me know if this is going to be the norm or not....i am not trying to be rude, mean or idiotic....but doesn't that make sense not to talk politics in a room that is not political.....it just stirs up trouble and makes everyone angry no matter what part of the political spectrum that each individual person is on......THANKS FOR LISTENING!!!!! I joined this group for help on my health...NOT for america bashing!

 

I know I will probably be kicked off most likely after this note but I am trying not to be either insulting OR condescending....

 

Love

Susan

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Dear JC,

 

Even though I agree with your idea of "negativity" and its bad effects on us, I don't believe that you are seeing "hate" so much as frustration.

 

It's awful frustrating to live in the "Land of the Free" and to see those freedoms erode.

 

Love,

 

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington

 

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Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:26 AM

Re: Herbal Remedies - RE: Political views in a herbal group...to moderators/owners/etc....

 

I agree with you, Susan. Alerting the group to an issue (like it started out as) is one thing - but the hate and bashing is getting out of hand. So much negativity is bad for anyone's health.

 

JC = )

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Right on Shelby.

Doc

 

Ian "Doc" Shillington N.D.727-738-0554DocShillington

 

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Shelby Blakely

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Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:16 PM

RE: Herbal Remedies - RE: Political views in a herbal group...to moderators/owners/etc....

 

We don't normally talk politics. This thread started due to an effort by Bush to screen the US population for mental illness so they can receive the treatments supplied by his buddies the pharmoconglomerates. This screening is to start with INFANTS. It's political and health related. We keep a very short leash on politics here. This conversation happens to be inseparably connected.

I don't hate America. Most (if not all) people here love America. It makes us angry to see out freedoms taken away in the name of "safety". My little boy would be classified as ADHD and if I sent him to school I would be forced to put him on ritilan. Never mind that the only thing that makes him like that is sugar and high fructose corn syrup. I've been on this list for almost 2 years and this is the first allowed topic on politics.

If you have information on such issues PLEASE share! I am always looking for more information. That is why I joined this list.

-Shelby

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