Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi Katja, I dont nurse him and he has ate the baby rice sience he was like almost a month old i mix it up in his formula I started so early because he had reflux so bad thats what I was told to do to thickin it up. No I dont give him any teething biscuits yet or cherrios because he only has 2 little bitty teeth he has some more coming in on top but not enough for me to worry about him choking. I looked on the rice box and I dont see gluten on it cold it be called something else? He dosnt eat soy as he could not tolerate it or lactose, he drinks a lactose and soy free formula I was just reading on the can and its base is coconut oil. I have 2 other children a 7 year old and a 3 year old. My three year old also had eczma just not very bad at all and it went away but this poor child has had it almost sience birth. Oh the mitten thing it works during the day like you said I just keep putting them back on but night time is when he scratches it up. I would like to have that recipie you have maybe that would help. Thank you much Scarlettkatja <katja wrote: At 10:21 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote:>Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is >very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is >lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby >rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn. >Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put >elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has >cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc >gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and >makes it bleed and it just looks awful.>Any other ideas?> Scarlettthe baby rice most likely does have gluten in it. why are you feeding him baby rice? he really doesn't need it - it's just empty calories. is he still nursing? are you eating wheat/barley/rye? do you give him teething biscuits? cheerios? does he have siblings? does he eat soy (or if you're nursing, do you?)if you're nursing, cut back to just meat, vegetables, and fruit for a while. if you're not nursing, and he gets formula, let me know and i can give you a recipe for a natural home made baby formula.the coconut oil you can get from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com you can also feed it to him - especially if you're not nursing, this is a great source of lauric acid, which is the component in breast milk that boosts immunity.since it itches him, put socks on his hands to keep him from itching. you'll have to keep putting them on over and over again, but it will help nonetheless. you can use a poultice of plantain to try to stop the itching, or, if it's not too near his eyes, just plain old baking soda paste made with water. if he's agitated, remember chamomile tea - it's a sanity saver!-katjaFederal Law requires that we warn you of the following: 1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. 2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural remedy. 3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and toprescribe for your own health. We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as they behave themselves. Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from list members, you are agreeing to be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and members free of any liability. Dr. Ian ShillingtonDoctor of NaturopathyDr.IanShillington Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Enter now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 which brand rice? the gerber site doesn't list ingredients, but i see they make rice, oatmeal, and barley cereals. even if they make their rice cereal out of only rice, if they make it in the same factory with the barley cereal, it's contaminated. also, almost all baby foods (the kind you get in jars) contain wheat as a thickening agent. try making all the baby food instead. for your own house, keep in mind that contamination is an issue. since it's obvious that your family has wheat issues, it would be best if your whole family just gave up gluten together. if you can't do that, you'll have to make the baby's food in a way that won't get contaminated: a separate cutting board, separate utensils, storage stuff, etc... for formula, if you can get raw goat's milk, i'd use that - mix about a cup of that, a raw egg yolk, some coconut oil, and some grassfed ghee (this is a good one: http://www.purityfarms.com/ ), and some grated raw liver if you can get it from grassfed animals, if not, a serving of high quality cod liver oil such as www.greenpasture.org if you can't get raw goat's milk but you can get raw cow's milk, you can get kefir grains at www.gemcultures.com and make kefir from the milk, which will remove the lactose. (in my opinion, this is the superior option anyway). whichever milk you use, mix all ingredients in the blender until happy. if you are hesitant to use milk at all, then just leave it out, and blend the coconut oil, raw egg yolk, ghee, cod liver oil, and liver into a puree - you can spoon feed it, or thin it down with water for bottle feeding. if you must sweeten it (try without first) then use a nice ripe banana. most importantly, don't get discouraged! you can heal this - and being gluten free isn't as hard as you'd think, once you get used to it. for more info, try www.celiac.com i also have a big reference list i'll send to you offline (if someone else wants it, holler) -katja At 02:42 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >Hi Katja, > I dont nurse him and he has ate the baby rice sience he was like almost > a month old i mix it up in his formula I started so early because he had > reflux so bad thats what I was told to do to thickin it up. No I dont > give him any teething biscuits yet or cherrios because he only has 2 > little bitty teeth he has some more coming in on top but not enough for > me to worry about him choking. I looked on the rice box and I dont see > gluten on it cold it be called something else? He dosnt eat soy as he > could not tolerate it or lactose, he drinks a lactose and soy free > formula I was just reading on the can and its base is coconut oil. I have > 2 other children a 7 year old and a 3 year old. My three year old also > had eczma just not very bad at all and it went away but this poor child > has had it almost sience birth. Oh the mitten thing it works during the > day like you said I just keep putting them back on but night time is when > he scratches it up. I would like to have that reci! pie you have maybe > that would help. > Thank you much > Scarlett > >katja <katja wrote: >At 10:21 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote: > >Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is > >very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is > >lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby > >rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn. > >Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put > >elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has > >cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc > >gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and > >makes it bleed and it just looks awful. > >Any other ideas? > > Scarlett > > >the baby rice most likely does have g! luten in it. why are you feeding him >baby rice? he really doesn't need it - it's just empty calories. is he >still nursing? are you eating wheat/barley/rye? do you give him teething >biscuits? cheerios? does he have siblings? does he eat soy (or if you're >nursing, do you?) > >if you're nursing, cut back to just meat, vegetables, and fruit for a >while. if you're not nursing, and he gets formula, let me know and i can >give you a recipe for a natural home made baby formula. > >the coconut oil you can get from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com you can >also feed it to him - especially if you're not nursing, this is a great >source of lauric acid, which is the component in breast milk that boosts >immunity. > >since it itches him, put socks on his hands to keep him from itching. >you'll have to keep putting them on over and over again, but it will help >nonetheless. you can use a poultice of plantain to try to stop the itching, >or, if i! t's not too near his eyes, just plain old baking soda paste made >with water. if he's agitated, remember chamomile tea - it's a sanity saver! > >-katja > > > > >Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: >1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. >2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy. >3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to >prescribe for your own health. >We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as >they behave themselves. >Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person >following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. >It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to >be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liabilit! y. > >Dr. Ian Shillington >Doctor of Naturopathy >Dr.IanShillington > > > > >Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from ><http://us.rd./evt=26640/*http://promotions./goldrush>Enter >now. > >Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following: >1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire. >2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy. >3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to >prescribe for your own health. >We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as >they behave themselves. >Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person >following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk. >It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to >be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability. > >Dr. Ian Shillington >Doctor of Naturopathy >Dr.IanShillington > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Katja I'd like the list as well-- we're pretty much gluten free & the resources would be a great help... thanx for the info on the water situation. It's the well-- drilling is not a financial option right now. We're trying to make use of a seasonal spring- just haven't hit the right idea yet... hugs buffy~ in WV katja [katja] Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:40 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby/KATJAwhich brand rice? the gerber site doesn't list ingredients, but i see they make rice, oatmeal, and barley cereals. even if they make their rice cereal out of only rice, if they make it in the same factory with the barley cereal, it's contaminated.also, almost all baby foods (the kind you get in jars) contain wheat as a thickening agent. try making all the baby food instead.for your own house, keep in mind that contamination is an issue. since it's obvious that your family has wheat issues, it would be best if your whole family just gave up gluten together. if you can't do that, you'll have to make the baby's food in a way that won't get contaminated: a separate cutting board, separate utensils, storage stuff, etc...for formula, if you can get raw goat's milk, i'd use that - mix about a cup of that, a raw egg yolk, some coconut oil, and some grassfed ghee (this is a good one: http://www.purityfarms.com/ ), and some grated raw liver if you can get it from grassfed animals, if not, a serving of high quality cod liver oil such as www.greenpasture.orgif you can't get raw goat's milk but you can get raw cow's milk, you can get kefir grains at www.gemcultures.com and make kefir from the milk, which will remove the lactose. (in my opinion, this is the superior option anyway).whichever milk you use, mix all ingredients in the blender until happy.if you are hesitant to use milk at all, then just leave it out, and blend the coconut oil, raw egg yolk, ghee, cod liver oil, and liver into a puree - you can spoon feed it, or thin it down with water for bottle feeding. if you must sweeten it (try without first) then use a nice ripe banana.most importantly, don't get discouraged! you can heal this - and being gluten free isn't as hard as you'd think, once you get used to it. for more info, try www.celiac.comi also have a big reference list i'll send to you offline (if someone else wants it, holler)-katjaAt 02:42 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote:>Hi Katja,> I dont nurse him and he has ate the baby rice sience he was like almost > a month old i mix it up in his formula I started so early because he had > reflux so bad thats what I was told to do to thickin it up. No I dont > give him any teething biscuits yet or cherrios because he only has 2 > little bitty teeth he has some more coming in on top but not enough for > me to worry about him choking. I looked on the rice box and I dont see > gluten on it cold it be called something else? He dosnt eat soy as he > could not tolerate it or lactose, he drinks a lactose and soy free > formula I was just reading on the can and its base is coconut oil. I have > 2 other children a 7 year old and a 3 year old. My three year old also > had eczma just not very bad at all and it went away but this poor child > has had it almost sience birth. Oh the mitten thing it works during the > day like you said I just keep putting them back on but night time is when > he scratches it up. I would like to have that reci! pie you have maybe > that would help.> Thank you much> Scarlett>>katja <katja wrote:>At 10:21 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote:> >Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is> >very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is> >lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby> >rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn.> >Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put> >elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has> >cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc> >gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and> >makes it bleed and it just looks awful.> >Any other ideas?> > Scarlett>>>the baby rice most likely does have g! luten in it. why are you feeding him>baby rice? he really doesn't need it - it's just empty calories. is he>still nursing? are you eating wheat/barley/rye? do you give him teething>biscuits? cheerios? does he have siblings? does he eat soy (or if you're>nursing, do you?)>>if you're nursing, cut back to just meat, vegetables, and fruit for a>while. if you're not nursing, and he gets formula, let me know and i can>give you a recipe for a natural home made baby formula.>>the coconut oil you can get from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com you can>also feed it to him - especially if you're not nursing, this is a great>source of lauric acid, which is the component in breast milk that boosts>immunity.>>since it itches him, put socks on his hands to keep him from itching.>you'll have to keep putting them on over and over again, but it will help>nonetheless. you can use a poultice of plantain to try to stop the itching,>or, if i! t's not too near his eyes, just plain old baking soda paste made>with water. if he's agitated, remember chamomile tea - it's a sanity saver!>>-katja>>>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy.>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health.>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as>they behave themselves.>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liabilit! y.>>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington>>>>Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from ><http://us.rd./evt=26640/*http://promotions./goldrush>Enter >now.>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy.>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health.>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as>they behave themselves.>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability.>>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 At 04:09 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote: >Katja > >I'd like the list as well-- we're pretty much gluten free & the resources >would be a great help... >thanx for the info on the water situation. It's the well-- drilling is not >a financial option right now. We're trying to make use of a seasonal >spring- just haven't hit the right idea yet... > >hugs >buffy~ >in WV you're welcome! hope something in that list helps turns out the celiac references aren't really that long, so here they are for everyone! i have a lot more information when you run out of stuff to do on this list - celiac, in case you hadn't noticed, is somewhat of a passion of mine. mainstream doctors are saying the numbers are between one in 10 and one in 3 - personally i believe it's more like 99% of americans. (in fact, i believe that it's about 98% of all humans, humans just aren't supposed to eat wheat! if you want to talk more about my reasoning for that, holler. if you agree go ahead and holler too, it's fun ) websites: www.celiac.com http://www.friendsofceliac.com/ www.gluten.net the best all around beginner's guide to celiac: Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients Gluten intolerance a paradigm of an epidemic. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2002_Dec/ai_94538644 summary info from dangerous grains http://www.dogtorj.com/pages/556762/index.htm a lighter all-around guide http://www.healthwell.com/delicious-online/d_backs/mar_04/women.cfm American Family Physician, March 1, 1998 Celiac Disease http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/980301b.html Detecting Celiac Disease http://www.aafp.org/afp/980301ap/pruessn.html books: dangerous grains - james braly, ron hoggan against the grain - jax peters lowell breaking the vicious cycle - elaine gottschall raising celiac kids - dana korn summary of related disorders: IBS chronic fatigue anemia phycological distress diarrhea diabetes spastic colon ulcers viral gastroenteritis allergies of all kinds colitis parasite infection gall bladder disease thyroid disease lactose intolerance abdominal pain add/adhd autism/asperger's constipation weight loss/failure to thrive joint pain connective tissue disorders seizures tingling/numb legs malabsorption breast cancer fibromyalgia MS alzheimer's depression sleep problems ezcema psoriasis dermatitis herpetiformis rheumatoid arthritis osteoarthritis osteoporosis crohn's disease infertility kidney disease liver disorders diverticulitis cystic fibrosis ulcerative colitis pancreatic disorders alopecia(hair loss) [why so many different related disorders? because the body breaks down in a finite number of ways. when you ingest poison every day, eventually some part is going to break down, and what breaks down is largely dependent on the rest of your genes and your environmental situation. certainly celiac disease isn't the only cause of these things, but the body can only handle so many toxins, and it can only break down in so many ways. best to limit your toxin exposure wherever possible, and gluten is certainly avoidable!] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!buffy marie <racham wrote: Katja I'd like the list as well-- we're pretty much gluten free & the resources would be a great help... thanx for the info on the water situation. It's the well-- drilling is not a financial option right now. We're trying to make use of a seasonal spring- just haven't hit the right idea yet... hugs buffy~ in WV katja [katja] Wednesday, August 25, 2004 3:40 PMherbal remedies Subject: Re: Herbal Remedies - Eczma - 9mth old baby/KATJAwhich brand rice? the gerber site doesn't list ingredients, but i see they make rice, oatmeal, and barley cereals. even if they make their rice cereal out of only rice, if they make it in the same factory with the barley cereal, it's contaminated.also, almost all baby foods (the kind you get in jars) contain wheat as a thickening agent. try making all the baby food instead.for your own house, keep in mind that contamination is an issue. since it's obvious that your family has wheat issues, it would be best if your whole family just gave up gluten together. if you can't do that, you'll have to make the baby's food in a way that won't get contaminated: a separate cutting board, separate utensils, storage stuff, etc...for formula, if you can get raw goat's milk, i'd use that - mix about a cup of that, a raw egg yolk, some coconut oil, and some grassfed ghee (this is a good one: http://www.purityfarms.com/ ), and some grated raw liver if you can get it from grassfed animals, if not, a serving of high quality cod liver oil such as www.greenpasture.orgif you can't get raw goat's milk but you can get raw cow's milk, you can get kefir grains at www.gemcultures.com and make kefir from the milk, which will remove the lactose. (in my opinion, this is the superior option anyway).whichever milk you use, mix all ingredients in the blender until happy.if you are hesitant to use milk at all, then just leave it out, and blend the coconut oil, raw egg yolk, ghee, cod liver oil, and liver into a puree - you can spoon feed it, or thin it down with water for bottle feeding. if you must sweeten it (try without first) then use a nice ripe banana.most importantly, don't get discouraged! you can heal this - and being gluten free isn't as hard as you'd think, once you get used to it. for more info, try www.celiac.comi also have a big reference list i'll send to you offline (if someone else wants it, holler)-katjaAt 02:42 PM 8/25/2004, you wrote:>Hi Katja,> I dont nurse him and he has ate the baby rice sience he was like almost > a month old i mix it up in his formula I started so early because he had > reflux so bad thats what I was told to do to thickin it up. No I dont > give him any teething biscuits yet or cherrios because he only has 2 > little bitty teeth he has some more coming in on top but not enough for > me to worry about him choking. I looked on the rice box and I dont see > gluten on it cold it be called something else? He dosnt eat soy as he > could not tolerate it or lactose, he drinks a lactose and soy free > formula I was just reading on the can and its base is coconut oil. I have > 2 other children a 7 year old and a 3 year old. My three year old also > had eczma just not very bad at all and it went away but this poor child > has had it almost sience birth. Oh the mitten thing it works during the > day like you said I just keep putting them back on but night time is when > he scratches it up. I would like to have that reci! pie you have maybe > that would help.> Thank you much> Scarlett>>katja <katja wrote:>At 10:21 AM 8/25/2004, you wrote:> >Hi I have found this very interessting my 9 month old also has eczma it is> >very very bad he has had it sience he was a few weeks old. My son is> >lactose intolerant I dont know about the whet and rys as he does eat baby> >rice but I dont see that it has and of that in it. He dosnt eat corn.> >Where would I get this cocconut oil that you say to mix up? I have put> >elidel on hisface sience he was a mointh old and the problem never has> >cleared up it just keeps it from getting infected, here recently the doc> >gave him a steriod cream and it hasnt helped either he still scratches and> >makes it bleed and it just looks awful.> >Any other ideas?> > Scarlett>>>the baby rice most likely does have g! luten in it. why are you feeding him>baby rice? he really doesn't need it - it's just empty calories. is he>still nursing? are you eating wheat/barley/rye? do you give him teething>biscuits? cheerios? does he have siblings? does he eat soy (or if you're>nursing, do you?)>>if you're nursing, cut back to just meat, vegetables, and fruit for a>while. if you're not nursing, and he gets formula, let me know and i can>give you a recipe for a natural home made baby formula.>>the coconut oil you can get from www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com you can>also feed it to him - especially if you're not nursing, this is a great>source of lauric acid, which is the component in breast milk that boosts>immunity.>>since it itches him, put socks on his hands to keep him from itching.>you'll have to keep putting them on over and over again, but it will help>nonetheless. you can use a poultice of plantain to try to stop the itching,>or, if i! t's not too near his eyes, just plain old baking soda paste made>with water. if he's agitated, remember chamomile tea - it's a sanity saver!>>-katja>>>>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy.>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health.>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as>they behave themselves.>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liabilit! y.>>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington>>>>Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from ><http://us.rd./evt=26640/*http://promotions./goldrush>Enter >now.>>Federal Law requires that we warn you of the following:>1. Natural methods can sometimes backfire.>2. If you are pregnant, consult your physician before using any natural >remedy.>3. The Constitution guarantees you the right to be your own physician and to>prescribe for your own health.>We are not medical doctors although MDs are welcome to post here as long as>they behave themselves.>Any opinions put forth by the list members are exactly that, and any person>following the advice of anyone posting here does so at their own risk.>It is up to you to educate yourself. By accepting advice or products from >list members, you are agreeing to>be fully responsible for your own health, and hold the List Owner and >members free of any liability.>>Dr. Ian Shillington>Doctor of Naturopathy>Dr.IanShillington>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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