Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007  Anyone have any experience with the "new" insulin - Lantus? Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Jane, As a type 2 diabetic of 20 years and counting, I have never actually taken it, but I've had it prescribed to me. I refused to take it. My reason is that I prefer to have personal control of my insulin-taking. The longer-lasting insulins take away personal control and put it in the hands of the doctor who doesn't live with me and isn't there when blood sugar is high or low. Longer-lasting insulins are supposed to be taken and the lifestyle of the patient is patterned around the dosage. I prefer to take regular insulin several times a day after eating thus patterning the insulin dosage around my lifestyle giving ME control of my life. From people I know who take Lantus the number #1 complaint is edema which precipitates taking of diuretics. For those without insurance, Lantus is $75 a vial and WalMart's Rely On brand is $18 and change. This is about all I know about Lantus. HughJane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:  Anyone have any experience with the "new" insulin - Lantus? Jane Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Thanks Hugh - the patient's feet and ankles are already the size of balloons so this might be interesting. Have you read Dr Bernstein's "Diabetes Solution"? This has been recommended to me which is great but this patient is vegetarian so a carb free diet would pose a few challenges ...... Jane - Hugh Ramsdell Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:05 PM Re: Lantus (insulin) Jane, As a type 2 diabetic of 20 years and counting, I have never actually taken it, but I've had it prescribed to me. I refused to take it. My reason is that I prefer to have personal control of my insulin-taking. The longer-lasting insulins take away personal control and put it in the hands of the doctor who doesn't live with me and isn't there when blood sugar is high or low. Longer-lasting insulins are supposed to be taken and the lifestyle of the patient is patterned around the dosage. I prefer to take regular insulin several times a day after eating thus patterning the insulin dosage around my lifestyle giving ME control of my life. From people I know who take Lantus the number #1 complaint is edema which precipitates taking of diuretics. For those without insurance, Lantus is $75 a vial and WalMart's Rely On brand is $18 and change. This is about all I know about Lantus. HughJane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote:  Anyone have any experience with the "new" insulin - Lantus? Jane Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 No. I haven't read the book. I am on and recommend "The Rosedale Diet". It's written by a 20 year metabolic/diabetes specialist. I so far have lost 35 pounds and lowered my insulin intake from 60-100 units per day to 30 units or less per day. Blood pressure is dropping and what used to be "pitting edema" slowly going away. Dr Rosedale has patients whose diabetes has disappeared. HughJane MacRoss <highfield1 wrote: Thanks Hugh - the patient's feet and ankles are already the size of balloons so this might be interesting. Have you read Dr Bernstein's "Diabetes Solution"? This has been recommended to me which is great but this patient is vegetarian so a carb free diet would pose a few challenges ...... Jane - Hugh Ramsdell Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:05 PM Re: Lantus (insulin) Jane, As a type 2 diabetic of 20 years and counting, I have never actually taken it, but I've had it prescribed to me. I refused to take it. My reason is that I prefer to have personal control of my insulin-taking. The longer-lasting insulins take away personal control and put it in the hands of the doctor who doesn't live with me and isn't there when blood sugar is high or low. Longer-lasting insulins are supposed to be taken and the lifestyle of the patient is patterned around the dosage. I prefer to take regular insulin several times a day after eating thus patterning the insulin dosage around my lifestyle giving ME control of my life. From people I know who take Lantus the number #1 complaint is edema which precipitates taking of diuretics. For those without insurance, Lantus is $75 a vial and WalMart's Rely On brand is $18 and change. This is about all I know about Lantus. HughJane MacRoss <highfield1 (AT) activ8 (DOT) net.au> wrote:  Anyone have any experience with the "new" insulin - Lantus? Jane Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. Get the free toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Hi Jane, I just saw the posting re lantus insulin. you mentioned dr. Bernstein's book. lot's of people are using his method, but I strongly disagree with it. if your patient is type 2, he/she can be cured on a 100% raw vegan diet. do a search for Gabriel Cousens and the tree of life institute. he's editing a film he made documenting his successes with the diet. a trailer is available online ( " raw for 30 days " , I believe). I've been a raw vegan for 7 yrs, but I'm type 1, so I can't be " cured " , but, it did reduce my insulin needs in half, and that was coming from a mostly vegetarian, but cooked, diet. the problem with the vegetarian cooked diet is all the refined starches in bread, pasta, rice and potatoes which are high glycemic and require huge doses of insulin to cover. get rid of those four items (which is what Bernstein does, too), and you've reduced your insulin needs hugely. where Bernstein is wrong is that in his zeal to eliminate carbs, he cuts out fruit, which is low glycemic, and has you eat fats and animal proteins instead. I eat lots of fruit. it's my primary source of calories. I take 30u/day. animal fats and proteins, when cooked, are carcinogenic and artery clogging!!! fruits and vegetables are just the opposite, they're protective against cancer and heart disease!!! Bernstein, like Adkins, puts his patients at risk because his only goal is to minimize insulin needs. yeah, he gets his patients down lower than me, but I'm not likely to die of a heart attack (like Atkins) or get cancer. hope this helps. christian mastor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Atkins didn't die of a heart attack. He slipped and fell on an ice-covered sidewalk and hit his head on the concrete. The ice was caused by water freezing on the ground in winter, not animal fats. Check out the Rosedale diet and see if it agrees with you. I'm on the diet and doing well. HughChristian Mastor <cmastor wrote: Hi Jane, I just saw the posting re lantus insulin. you mentioned dr. Bernstein's book. lot's of people are using his method, but I strongly disagree with it. if your patient is type 2, he/she can be cured on a 100% raw vegan diet. do a search for Gabriel Cousens and the tree of life institute. he's editing a film he made documenting his successes with the diet. a trailer is available online ("raw for 30 days", I believe). I've been a raw vegan for 7 yrs, but I'm type 1, so I can't be "cured", but, it did reduce my insulin needs in half, and that was coming from a mostly vegetarian, but cooked, diet. the problem with the vegetarian cooked diet is all the refined starches in bread, pasta, rice and potatoes which are high glycemic and require huge doses of insulin to cover. get rid of those four items (which is what Bernstein does, too), and you've reduced your insulin needs hugely. where Bernstein is wrong is that in his zeal to eliminate carbs, he cuts out fruit, which is low glycemic, and has you eat fats and animal proteins instead. I eat lots of fruit. it's my primary source of calories. I take 30u/day. animal fats and proteins, when cooked, are carcinogenic and artery clogging!!! fruits and vegetables are just the opposite, they're protective against cancer and heart disease!!! Bernstein, like Adkins, puts his patients at risk because his only goal is to minimize insulin needs. yeah, he gets his patients down lower than me, but I'm not likely to die of a heart attack (like Atkins) or get cancer.hope this helps.christian mastor Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles.Visit the Auto Green Center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2007 Report Share Posted July 29, 2007 Thanks Hugh. Jane - Hugh Ramsdell .. Check out the Rosedale diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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