Guest guest Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote: - R J Tavel JD Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero Cover-Up A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " by superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why " vicious security " measures were enacted to prevent people from accessing certain areas of ground zero. <http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby buildings for survivors. In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes the moments before the collapse of WTC 7. " When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and start bustling back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started asking questions, " said McPadden. Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his hand over his radio and told them to " just sit tight " and " calm down " before admitting " they're thinking about bringing the building down. " McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the official meant by this statement, initially thinking the building next to them was possibly being brought down. " He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you hear three, two, one, " said McPadden, adding that the official then gave a heartfelt look and told the first responders, " just run for your life. " McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been ordered not to give the first responders a warning that the building was coming down. " And you heard - boom, boom, boom, " said McPadden, describing the sound of bombs tearing down the building. McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodman and others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started to collapse is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio further own the street. Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cut at perfect angles as is shown in <http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_telling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc-steel400.jpg>this image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented people from getting near the beams. He also highlighted the fact that " vicious security " was quickly set up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had their cameras confiscated. When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to " shut up " and " don't repeat it " by superiors. He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they also heard secondary explosions, but said that " Obviously somewhere in their command structure, they were told to shut up. " ------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Look up the Google Video called "Loose Change", download it, and watch it. It gives a play-by-play that will send chills down your spine. HughThe Havens <thehavens wrote: At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote: - R J Tavel JD Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM[Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero Cover-UpA 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to "shut up" by superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why "vicious security" measures were enacted to prevent people from accessing certain areas of ground zero.<http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby buildings for survivors.In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes the moments before the collapse of WTC 7."When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and start bustling back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started asking questions," said McPadden.Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his hand over his radio and told them to "just sit tight" and "calm down" before admitting "they're thinking about bringing the building down."McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the official meant by this statement, initially thinking the building next to them was possibly being brought down."He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you hear three, two, one," said McPadden, adding that the official then gave a heartfelt look and told the first responders, "just run for your life."McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been ordered not to give the first responders a warning that the building was coming down."And you heard - boom, boom, boom," said McPadden, describing the sound of bombs tearing down the building.McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodman and others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started to collapse is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio further own the street.Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cut at perfect angles as is shown in <http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_telling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc-steel400.jpg>this image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented people from getting near the beams.He also highlighted the fact that "vicious security" was quickly set up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had their cameras confiscated.When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to "shut up" and "don't repeat it" by superiors.He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they also heard secondary explosions, but said that "Obviously somewhere in their command structure, they were told to shut up."------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hugh, It's like the conspiracy that we never landed on the moon, hoaxters make up data and make certain data appear like what it's not. Look at this statement: > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " by > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > " vicious security " measures were enacted to prevent people from > accessing certain areas of ground zero. << How do you know it's true some responder heard a countdown? Isn't it odd this same guy also reported secondary explosions? Who's broadcasting a countdown to setting off a secret demolition anyway? Do you not question any of this? The internet is full of hoaxes. Was this person really there and is who he claims? Do you think people ever make up things like this? Now, building seven was damaged when the twin towers fell. That's say they did go ahead and demo the building, which no official agency claims. What hard conspiracy is that pointing to? Are you one of those who claim the twin towers were also brought down with demolitions? Daniel , Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 wrote: > > Look up the Google Video called " Loose Change " , download it, and watch it. It gives a play-by-play that will send chills down your spine. > Hugh > > The Havens <thehavens wrote: > At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote: > > > - > R J Tavel JD > Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service > Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM > [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero Cover-Up > > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " by > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > " vicious security " measures were enacted to prevent people from > accessing certain areas of ground zero. > <http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_ 911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/ shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm > > Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, > Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord > and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby > buildings for survivors. > > In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes the moments > before the collapse of WTC 7. > > " When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and start bustling > back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started > asking questions, " said McPadden. > > Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross > officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing > while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his hand > over his radio and told them to " just sit tight " and " calm down " > before admitting " they're thinking about bringing the building down. " > > McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the official meant > by this statement, initially thinking the building next to them was > possibly being brought down. > > " He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you hear > three, two, one, " said McPadden, adding that the official then gave a > heartfelt look and told the first responders, " just run for your life. " > > McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been > ordered not to give the first responders a warning that the building > was coming down. > > " And you heard - boom, boom, boom, " said McPadden, describing the > sound of bombs tearing down the building. > > McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodman and > others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene > and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started to collapse > is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio > further own the street. > > Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close > steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cut at > perfect angles as is shown in > <http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_t elling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc- steel400.jpg>this > image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that > officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented > people from getting near the beams. > > He also highlighted the fact that " vicious security " was quickly set > up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred > from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had their cameras > confiscated. > > When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were > heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to " shut up " and > " don't repeat it " by superiors. > > He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they > also heard secondary explosions, but said that " Obviously somewhere > in their command structure, they were told to shut up. " > ------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 The only thing I would ask is how come there were areas burnt way beyond the twin towers? Jane Hugh, It's like the conspiracy that we never landed on the moon, hoaxters make up data and make certain data appear like what it's not. Look at this statement: > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 No. I pointed in the direction of more information. There are inconsistencies in the info in the movie. I do however, believe that the story we were given by the media and the government is not totally the truth. That goes for most everything the media and the government tells us. Hughjayjeti <jayjeti wrote: Hugh,It's like the conspiracy that we never landed on the moon, hoaxters make up data and make certain data appear like what it's not. Look at this statement:> A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to "shut up" by > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > "vicious security" measures were enacted to prevent people from > accessing certain areas of ground zero. <<How do you know it's true some responder heard a countdown? Isn't it odd this same guy also reported secondary explosions? Who's broadcasting a countdown to setting off a secret demolition anyway? Do you not question any of this? The internet is full of hoaxes. Was this person really there and is who he claims? Do you think people ever make up things like this?Now, building seven was damaged when the twin towers fell. That's say they did go ahead and demo the building, which no official agency claims. What hard conspiracy is that pointing to? Are you one of those who claim the twin towers were also brought down with demolitions?Daniel , Hugh Ramsdell <hughman73 wrote:>> Look up the Google Video called "Loose Change", download it, and watch it. It gives a play-by-play that will send chills down your spine.> Hugh> > The Havens <thehavens wrote:> At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote:> > > - > R J Tavel JD > Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service > Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM> [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero Cover-Up> > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a countdown > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to "shut up" by > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > "vicious security" measures were enacted to prevent people from > accessing certain areas of ground zero.> <http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm > > Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, > Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord > and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby > buildings for survivors.> > In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes the moments > before the collapse of WTC 7.> > "When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and start bustling > back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started > asking questions," said McPadden.> > Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross > officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing > while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his hand > over his radio and told them to "just sit tight" and "calm down" > before admitting "they're thinking about bringing the building down."> > McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the official meant > by this statement, initially thinking the building next to them was > possibly being brought down.> > "He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you hear > three, two, one," said McPadden, adding that the official then gave a > heartfelt look and told the first responders, "just run for your life."> > McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been > ordered not to give the first responders a warning that the building > was coming down.> > "And you heard - boom, boom, boom," said McPadden, describing the > sound of bombs tearing down the building.> > McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodman and > others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene > and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started to collapse > is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio > further own the street.> > Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close > steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cut at > perfect angles as is shown in > <http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_telling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc-steel400.jpg>this > image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that > officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented > people from getting near the beams.> > He also highlighted the fact that "vicious security" was quickly set > up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred > from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had their cameras > confiscated.> > When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were > heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to "shut up" and > "don't repeat it" by superiors.> > He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they > also heard secondary explosions, but said that "Obviously somewhere > in their command structure, they were told to shut up."> ------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I am one of those there claim the towers were brought down by demolitions. Simply because it could not have been done in other ways. Also I have doubts about the moon story, simply because it could not have been done.......the way we have been told. søndag 30. sep 2007 kl. 08:03 skrev jayjeti: > > Hugh, > > It's like the conspiracy that we never landed on the moon, hoaxters > make up data and make certain data appear like what it's not. Look > at this statement: > > > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a > countdown > > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " > by > > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > > " vicious security " measures were enacted to prevent people from > > accessing certain areas of ground zero. << > > How do you know it's true some responder heard a countdown? Isn't > it odd this same guy also reported secondary explosions? Who's > broadcasting a countdown to setting off a secret demolition anyway? > Do you not question any of this? The internet is full of hoaxes. > Was this person really there and is who he claims? Do you think > people ever make up things like this? > > Now, building seven was damaged when the twin towers fell. That's > say they did go ahead and demo the building, which no official > agency claims. What hard conspiracy is that pointing to? Are you > one of those who claim the twin towers were also brought down with > demolitions? > > Daniel > > , Hugh Ramsdell > <hughman73 wrote: > > > > Look up the Google Video called " Loose Change " , download it, and > watch it. It gives a play-by-play that will send chills down your > spine. > > Hugh > > > > The Havens <thehavens wrote: > > At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote: > > > > > > - > > R J Tavel JD > > Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service > > Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM > > [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero > Cover-Up > > > > A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard a > countdown > > before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to " shut up " > by > > superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why > > " vicious security " measures were enacted to prevent people from > > accessing certain areas of ground zero. > > > <http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_ > 911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/ > shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm > > > > Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, > > Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own > accord > > and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and > nearby > > buildings for survivors. > > > > In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes the > moments > > before the collapse of WTC 7. > > > > " When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and start > bustling > > back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started > > asking questions, " said McPadden. > > > > Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross > > officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing > > while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his > hand > > over his radio and told them to " just sit tight " and " calm down " > > before admitting " they're thinking about bringing the building > down. " > > > > McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the official > meant > > by this statement, initially thinking the building next to them > was > > possibly being brought down. > > > > " He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you > hear > > three, two, one, " said McPadden, adding that the official then > gave a > > heartfelt look and told the first responders, " just run for your > life. " > > > > McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been > > ordered not to give the first responders a warning that the > building > > was coming down. > > > > " And you heard - boom, boom, boom, " said McPadden, describing the > > sound of bombs tearing down the building. > > > > McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodman > and > > others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene > > and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started to > collapse > > is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio > > further own the street. > > > > Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close > > steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cut > at > > perfect angles as is shown in > > > <http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_t > elling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc- > steel400.jpg>this > > image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that > > officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented > > people from getting near the beams. > > > > He also highlighted the fact that " vicious security " was quickly > set > > up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred > > from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had their > cameras > > confiscated. > > > > When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were > > heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to " shut up " and > > " don't repeat it " by superiors. > > > > He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they > > also heard secondary explosions, but said that " Obviously > somewhere > > in their command structure, they were told to shut up. " > > ------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I give lectures on this. I have been in the prime Danish Governemt Radio program on this. My conclusion is clear. 911 was an inside job. Read the testimony of the 503 NY firemen and rescue workers. The testimony was kept secret, only court cases brought them out into the open. Look at how the twin towers collapsed. That was controlled demolition. Yours, Ole Gerstrom, former member of Parliament, Denmark (I am the gentleman in the grey suit on this clip from Danish Parliament, 29. sept. 2007: http://www.dr.dk:80/NETTV/Update/2007/09/28/20070928125828.htm ) - kenn johnsen Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:55 PM Re: Re: Fw: [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground Zero Cover-Up I am one of those there claim the towers were brought down by demolitions. Simply because it could not have been done in other ways. Also I have doubts about the moon story, simply because it could not have been done.......the way we have been told.søndag 30. sep 2007 kl. 08:03 skrev jayjeti: Hugh,It's like the conspiracy that we never landed on the moon, hoaxtersmake up data and make certain data appear like what it's not. Lookat this statement:> A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard acountdown> before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to "shut up"by> superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why> "vicious security" measures were enacted to prevent people from> accessing certain areas of ground zero. <<How do you know it's true some responder heard a countdown? Isn'tit odd this same guy also reported secondary explosions? Who'sbroadcasting a countdown to setting off a secret demolition anyway?Do you not question any of this? The internet is full of hoaxes.Was this person really there and is who he claims? Do you thinkpeople ever make up things like this?Now, building seven was damaged when the twin towers fell. That'ssay they did go ahead and demo the building, which no officialagency claims. What hard conspiracy is that pointing to? Are youone of those who claim the twin towers were also brought down withdemolitions?Daniel , Hugh Ramsdell<hughman73 wrote:>> Look up the Google Video called "Loose Change", download it, andwatch it. It gives a play-by-play that will send chills down yourspine.> Hugh>> The Havens <thehavens wrote:> At 08:50 AM 9/29/07, you wrote:>>> -> R J Tavel JD> Learning Electronically About Freedom mailing service> Friday, September 28, 2007 8:40 PM> [Lis-LEAF] Shocking New Revelations On 9/11 Ground ZeroCover-Up>> A 9/11 first responder has shed new light on how he heard acountdown> before the demolition of Building 7, how he was told to "shut up"by> superiors when he tried to report secondary explosions and why> "vicious security" measures were enacted to prevent people from> accessing certain areas of ground zero.><http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/shocking_new_revelations_on_911_ground_zero_cover_up.htm>> Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert,> Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his ownaccord> and spent the next four days searching through the rubble andnearby> buildings for survivors.>> In a video interview with Alex Jones, McPadden describes themoments> before the collapse of WTC 7.>> "When we saw the firemen pick up their equipment and startbustling> back and forth they were getting ready to do something, we started> asking questions," said McPadden.>> Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross> officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing> while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held hishand> over his radio and told them to "just sit tight" and "calm down"> before admitting "they're thinking about bringing the buildingdown.">> McPadden and his colleagues were miffed as to what the officialmeant> by this statement, initially thinking the building next to themwas> possibly being brought down.>> "He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and youhear> three, two, one," said McPadden, adding that the official thengave a> heartfelt look and told the first responders, "just run for yourlife.">> McPadden got the impression that the Red Cross official had been> ordered not to give the first responders a warning that thebuilding> was coming down.>> "And you heard - boom, boom, boom," said McPadden, describing the> sound of bombs tearing down the building.>> McPadden explained that the reason Democracy Now host Amy Goodmanand> others were captured on video (watch above) running from the scene> and reaching stationary onlookers as the building started tocollapse> is that they were able to hear the full countdown on the radio> further own the street.>> Later in the interview, McPadden reveals how he witnessed up close> steel beams from the twin towers that had been symmetrically cutat> perfect angles as is shown in><http://www.infowars.com/articles/iraq/blackwater_dem_accuses_rices_telling_blackwater_to_cover_up_thermite-thermate-wtc-steel400.jpg>this> image - a clear sign that explosives were used. McPadden said that> officials were acting very suspiciously and subsequently prevented> people from getting near the beams.>> He also highlighted the fact that "vicious security" was quicklyset> up around certain areas of ground zero and that people were barred> from accessing certain areas for no reason and also had theircameras> confiscated.>> When McPadden attempted to report that secondary explosions were> heard by numerous people, he was harshly ordered to "shut up" and> "don't repeat it" by superiors.>> He also talked to numerous firefighters who acknowledged that they> also heard secondary explosions, but said that "Obviouslysomewhere> in their command structure, they were told to shut up."> ------------------------------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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