Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I've been using Water Oz silver having been convinced it was best mostly because it's ionic and those talking were very convincing. In trying to follow the silver discussion here now I'm not sure what to think. So I'm thinking of trying out Utopia and getting the silver maker. But now someone recommended this silver maker. http://www.economysilvergenerator.com/index.html I believe it works out cheaper than Utopia's even with the discount. Hope I'm not stepping on the toes of fans of Utopia, but y'all seem so knowledgeable about this stuff I'm hoping you'll offer some opinions. Thanks, Naomi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 How do you figure that it costs less than the Utopia Silver generator when you use our group discount for 15% off (LR001)?I don't see that it costs less, but regardless of whether it does or not, if you want to go the cheap route you can find silver generators for as little as $40. Utopia Silver makes a cheaper unit besides their best one. But saving a few bucks and getting less than the best silver is not the best idea. The cheap machines will not produce nearly the quality of silver as will the Utopia Silver Silver Bullet model generator (or the more expensive Silver Puppy and Silver Gen generators).When it comes to silver products, there are scores of companies out there claiming that their product is the best. They lie. The best two I know of are Utopia Silver Advanced Colloidal Silver and Mesosilver. Most of the rest are all hype and use basically the same method of production.The key to silver is particle size and PPM. Utopia Silver's particles range down to less than a nanometer in size and average less than 2 nanometers. Anything over 20 PPM is overkill and you will end up with large particle clumping. Ionic silver is best for topical use and use that does not have to pass through the digestive system (though you can swish small particle ionic silver like the Utopia Advanced Ionic Silver for awhile to get better absorption into the bloodstream prior to reaching the digestive tract) and colloidal silver is best for all other conditions which require oral ingestion.TonyHTML clipboard --- In oleander soup , "Naomi" <naomilh wrote:>> I've been using Water Oz silver having been convinced it was best mostly because it's ionic and those talking were very convincing. In trying to follow the silver discussion here now I'm not sure what to think. So I'm thinking of trying out Utopia and getting the silver maker. But now someone recommended this silver maker. http://www.economysilvergenerator.com/index.html I believe it works out cheaper than Utopia's even with the discount. Hope I'm not stepping on the toes of fans of Utopia, but y'all seem so knowledgeable about this stuff I'm hoping you'll offer some opinions.> Thanks,> Naomi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Tony, Do you think that CS be useful in treating tonsillitis in a child? What else might be effective for this? I am thinking that high doses of Vit C would help with the inflammation. What are your thoughts? --Andy oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > How do you figure that it costs less than the Utopia Silver generator > when you use our group discount for 15% off (LR001)? > > I don't see that it costs less, but regardless of whether it does or > not, if you want to go the cheap route you can find silver generators > for as little as $40. Utopia Silver makes a cheaper unit besides their > best one. But saving a few bucks and getting less than the best silver > is not the best idea. The cheap machines will not produce nearly the > quality of silver as will the Utopia Silver Silver Bullet > <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php? id=18 & jxURL=http://www.\ > utopiasilver.com/products/colloidal-production-equipment/> model > generator (or the more expensive Silver Puppy and Silver Gen > generators). > > When it comes to silver products, there are scores of companies out > there claiming that their product is the best. They lie. The best two I > know of are Utopia Silver Advanced Colloidal Silver > <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php? id=18 & jxURL=http://www.\ > utopiasilver.com/products/silver/> and Mesosilver. Most of the rest > are all hype and use basically the same method of production. > > The key to silver is particle size and PPM. Utopia Silver's particles > range down to less than a nanometer in size and average less than 2 > nanometers. Anything over 20 PPM is overkill and you will end up with > large particle clumping. Ionic silver is best for topical use and use > that does not have to pass through the digestive system (though you can > swish small particle ionic silver like the Utopia Advanced Ionic Silver > <http://www.utopiasilver.com/affiliates/jrox.php? id=18 & jxURL=http://www.\ > utopiasilver.com/products/ionicsilver/> for awhile to get better > absorption into the bloodstream prior to reaching the digestive tract) > and colloidal silver is best for all other conditions which require oral > ingestion. > > > > HTML clipboard Have you visited our website yet today? The Best Years > in Life - Live Longer, Healthier and Happier Lives > > oleander soup , " Naomi " <naomilh@> wrote: > > > > I've been using Water Oz silver having been convinced it was best > mostly because it's ionic and those talking were very convincing. In > trying to follow the silver discussion here now I'm not sure what to > think. So I'm thinking of trying out Utopia and getting the silver > maker. But now someone recommended this silver maker. > http://www.economysilvergenerator.com/index.html I believe it works > out cheaper than Utopia's even with the discount. Hope I'm not stepping > on the toes of fans of Utopia, but y'all seem so knowledgeable about > this stuff I'm hoping you'll offer some opinions. > > Thanks, > > Naomi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Naomi, If you are able to cut and splice wires, you can buy the parts and build your own generator for less. I can help with info on parts and sources if you want. While Water Oz does not disclose the actual contents of their colloidal silver, lab analysis has determined that it is silver citrate. Silver citrate is easy to make with an ionic silver generator. But there is a modification needed and it has to have more current capability than ionic silver generators. The AC version of what you linked to has enough current. Batteries are not recommended for silver citrate. I make both ionic silver and silver citrate for my own use. If you are interested in more information, PM me. BTW, Utopia Silver is a great product. The particle size is amazing. - Steve oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of NaomiTuesday, November 25, 2008 12:46 PMoleander soup Subject: ? re silver...Tony/anybody I've been using Water Oz silver having been convinced it was best mostly because it's ionic and those talking were very convincing. In trying to follow the silver discussion here now I'm not sure what to think. So I'm thinking of trying out Utopia and getting the silver maker. But now someone recommended this silver maker. http://www.economysilvergenerator.com/index.html I believe it works out cheaper than Utopia's even with the discount. Hope I'm not stepping on the toes of fans of Utopia, but y'all seem so knowledgeable about this stuff I'm hoping you'll offer some opinions. Thanks, Naomi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Hi Tony, Can the filtered water be used instead of distilled one in the home silver generator? Thank you, Vlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 What is important is to make sure you use water that has no mineral content, especially mineral salts. If you have a good enough filter to remove those then it could be OK, but distilled and filtered water is recommended. oleander soup , "vdrozdovsky" <vdrozdovsky wrote:>> Hi Tony,> > Can the filtered water be used instead of distilled one in the home > silver generator?> > Thank you,> Vlad> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 If you are seriously interested in colloidal silver go here: microelectricitygermkiller It's a with alot of info on the antibacterial properties of silver. We use it for toothaches, and other medical problems. There are also instructions on making your own. Good Luck! oleander soup , " Norton, Steve " <stephen.norton wrote: > > Naomi, > If you are able to cut and splice wires, you can buy the parts and build > your own generator for less. I can help with info on parts and sources > if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 M Richmond: This isn't a link? awareness.investigation.knowledge.potential.motivation.action.patience.results Duke Dallas - Texas info --- On Wed, 11/26/08, M. Richmond <rollouts wrote: M. Richmond <rollouts Re: ? re silver...Tony/anybodyoleander soup Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:20 PM If you are seriously interested in colloidal silver go here: microelectricityger mkiller It's a with alot of info on the antibacterial properties of silver. We use it for toothaches, and other medical problems. There are also instructions on making your own.Good Luck!oleander soup, "Norton, Steve" <stephen.norton@ ...> wrote:>> Naomi,> If you are able to cut and splice wires, you can buy the parts and build> your own generator for less. I can help with info on parts and sources> if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 The link to the group is: http://health.microelectricitygermkiller/ It appears to be mainly about an experiental zapper type germ killer you can make yourself which they call "Godzilla". oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote:>> M Richmond:> This isn't a link?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness.investigation.knowledge.potential.motivation.action.patience.results > > Duke Dallas - Texas> info > > --- On Wed, 11/26/08, M. Richmond rollouts wrote:> > M. Richmond rollouts Re: ? re silver...Tony/anybody> oleander soup > Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:20 PM> > > > > > > If you are seriously interested in colloidal silver go here: > > microelectricityger mkiller > > It's a with alot of info on the antibacterial properties of > silver. We use it for toothaches, and other medical problems. There are > also instructions on making your own.> Good Luck!> > oleander soup, "Norton, Steve" > <stephen.norton@ ...> wrote:> >> > Naomi,> > If you are able to cut and splice wires, you can buy the parts and > build> > your own generator for less. I can help with info on parts and sources> > if you want.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Tony, Yes and it appears to work very well. A man by the name of "V" makes and sells them. I had a very painful tooth after a root canal recently... this machine got rid of the pain in 5 minutes and it hasn't returned. Bob - Tony oleander soup Thursday, November 27, 2008 6:52 AM Re: ? re silver...Tony/anybody The link to the group is: http://health.microelectricitygermkiller/ It appears to be mainly about an experiental zapper type germ killer you can make yourself which they call "Godzilla". oleander soup , Duke Stone <dukesdeals wrote:>> M Richmond:> This isn't a link?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > awareness.investigation.knowledge.potential.motivation.action.patience.results > > Duke Dallas - Texas> info > > --- On Wed, 11/26/08, M. Richmond rollouts wrote:> > M. Richmond rollouts Re: ? re silver...Tony/anybody> oleander soup > Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:20 PM> > > > > > > If you are seriously interested in colloidal silver go here: > > microelectricityger mkiller > > It's a with alot of info on the antibacterial properties of > silver. We use it for toothaches, and other medical problems. There are > also instructions on making your own.> Good Luck!> > oleander soup, "Norton, Steve" > <stephen.norton@ ...> wrote:> >> > Naomi,> > If you are able to cut and splice wires, you can buy the parts and > build> > your own generator for less. I can help with info on parts and sources> > if you want.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 Thank you so much. Can this silver be used by a cancer patient as adjuvant therapy. If yes, what is the recommended dose. I understand that it would be not as effective as commercial one, which is quite expensive. Thank you, Vlad oleander soup , " Tony " wrote: > > > What is important is to make sure you use water that has no mineral > content, especially mineral salts. If you have a good enough filter to > remove those then it could be OK, but distilled and filtered water is > recommended. > > > > Have you visited our website yet today? The Best Years in Life - Live > Longer, Healthier and Happier Lives > > oleander soup , " vdrozdovsky " <vdrozdovsky@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Tony, > > > > Can the filtered water be used instead of distilled one in the home > > silver generator? > > > > Thank you, > > Vlad > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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