Colloidal Gold/Rhoda

November 26, 2008

Not saying that you will smurf or change into any other colour but

herbs are one thing and minerals are another, the old Alchemists

found out the hard way with their lives, herbs were considered okay

for health but for Immortality the minerals were to be used for

example Gold and Silver, although people say that Silver and Gold

are in there colloidal form and in the case of Ormus in it's

monoatomic state (one atom) lol, there is still mineral content and

minerals are harder for the body to excrete than herbs or vitamins,

just consider that taking a drop of arsenic or cyanide or some other

poison may kill you but someone says that taking it in homepathic

doses helps some illnesses, would you take it? Gold will cause

serious brain problems and is a neurotoxin (apparently sticks to the

hypothalamus - sounds not too good!) if it is taken in it's natural

form, of course noone is going to ingest it this way and so even the

Alchemists in China had to 'change' the gold into a form that may be

ingested, now the Alchemists of the internet have either got it

right OR ...

I am trying the Colloidal Silver tentitavely but detoxing at the

same time and doing minimum of 3 enemas a day (1 is not enough in my

opinion as it takes the faeces of the previous day unless you do an

evacuation enema beforehand and then do a retension enema after

that, 3 is good though whilst juicing of course) I did get the OPC

seems bitter which is a good sign I suppose, bitter medicine is good

is the old saying.

QUOTE minerals have a smaller toxic to benefit ratio than vitamins.

What this means is that amount of a mineral which might be used for

supplementation is not much lower than the toxic amount. For

minerals the toxic level might be only 3 to 10 times the therapeutic

amount. For example, selenium requirements are usually around 50 mcg

per day and typical selenium supplementation amounts are 100-400 mcg

per day. However, toxicity can result at around 1200-1600 mcg per

day over an extended period. So if we take a safe amount of 400 mcg

and a toxic amount of 1200 mcg, that is only a 3:1 ratio. It's

important that you realize the importance of not taking too much.

The toxic to benefit ratio of vitamins is much higher. Our bodies

have a much higher capacity to excrete unused amounts of vitamins

than unused amounts of minerals. For example we might have a B

vitamin requirement of 2 mgs, a supplemented amount of 100 mgs, and

a toxic level of 10-50 grams. There is not the same danger of over

supplementing vitamins as there is of over supplementing minerals.

The one exception are the oil soluble vitamins: A, D, E, and K.

These build up in the tissues and can cause problems. For example,

we might take 5000 IU of vitamin A, but 100,000 IU over a period of

months can cause severe headaches. In the arctic some people have

died from eating the liver of animals because the vitamin A content

was so high that the person's body couldn't eliminate it fast

enough.

PM me Rhoda maybe you can say what the you are specifically

depressed about and maybe be able to work round those issues in a

practical manner.

Gerald

November 27, 2008

The amount of silver and gold in colloids like those of Utopia Silver are tiny (20 PPM). I take gold every day and silver frequently. I am healthy, neither blue nor yellow, and my mood and mental sharpness are wonderful.

BTW, I take arsenic every day too. Also lead, mercury, aluminum and more. They are all essential trace elements and are among the 75 plant derived trace elements in the product I take. Of course the amounts are very, very tiny (thus that word "trace"). But all minerals, both major and trace, have parts to play in optimum health. It is how life was created and has adapted over the millenia. It is why, for example, there are actual silver receptors in human nervous tissue - because silver is vital for optimum health.

oleander soup , "gerald.fiore" <Dukka88 wrote:>> Not saying that you will smurf or change into any other colour but > herbs are one thing and minerals are another, the old Alchemists > found out the hard way with their lives, herbs were considered okay > for health but for Immortality the minerals were to be used for > example Gold and Silver, although people say that Silver and Gold > are in there colloidal form and in the case of Ormus in it's > monoatomic state (one atom) lol, there is still mineral content and > minerals are harder for the body to excrete than herbs or vitamins, > just consider that taking a drop of arsenic or cyanide or some other > poison may kill you but someone says that taking it in homepathic > doses helps some illnesses, would you take it? Gold will cause > serious brain problems and is a neurotoxin (apparently sticks to the > hypothalamus - sounds not too good!) if it is taken in it's natural > form, of course noone is going to ingest it this way and so even the > Alchemists in China had to 'change' the gold into a form that may be > ingested, now the Alchemists of the internet have either got it > right OR ...> > I am trying the Colloidal Silver tentitavely but detoxing at the > same time and doing minimum of 3 enemas a day (1 is not enough in my > opinion as it takes the faeces of the previous day unless you do an > evacuation enema beforehand and then do a retension enema after > that, 3 is good though whilst juicing of course) I did get the OPC > seems bitter which is a good sign I suppose, bitter medicine is good > is the old saying.> > QUOTE minerals have a smaller toxic to benefit ratio than vitamins. > What this means is that amount of a mineral which might be used for > supplementation is not much lower than the toxic amount. For > minerals the toxic level might be only 3 to 10 times the therapeutic > amount. For example, selenium requirements are usually around 50 mcg > per day and typical selenium supplementation amounts are 100-400 mcg > per day. However, toxicity can result at around 1200-1600 mcg per > day over an extended period. So if we take a safe amount of 400 mcg > and a toxic amount of 1200 mcg, that is only a 3:1 ratio. It's > important that you realize the importance of not taking too much.> > The toxic to benefit ratio of vitamins is much higher. Our bodies > have a much higher capacity to excrete unused amounts of vitamins > than unused amounts of minerals. For example we might have a B > vitamin requirement of 2 mgs, a supplemented amount of 100 mgs, and > a toxic level of 10-50 grams. There is not the same danger of over > supplementing vitamins as there is of over supplementing minerals.> > The one exception are the oil soluble vitamins: A, D, E, and K. > These build up in the tissues and can cause problems. For example, > we might take 5000 IU of vitamin A, but 100,000 IU over a period of > months can cause severe headaches. In the arctic some people have > died from eating the liver of animals because the vitamin A content > was so high that the person's body couldn't eliminate it fast > enough. > > PM me Rhoda maybe you can say what the you are specifically > depressed about and maybe be able to work round those issues in a > practical manner.> > Gerald>

November 27, 2008

Interesting points Tony. All I can say that with these things you

have to be careful, I unfortunately messed about with lead or

Arsenic or Mercury or two of these when making some concoction and

thought I got them out and they were purified out, I must have got

my numbers wrong, I remember in Moscow in a hotel I started to dream

of squares, squares everywhere, then a horse galloping loudly then

my wife rang me from Beijing and woke me up from my terror and the

horsehoof sounds were actually my heart pounding, I felt better the

next day and like an idiot took more white powder (not coke, but m-

state that I made in Beijing lab)

I took the train to Berlin and had to wait my connection to London

and so had 8 hrs to kill, everytime I went indoors, say to a

restaurant, then macdonalds then an Internet cafe it felt like the

top of my head was sliced off and someone had put a frying pan in

there, basically it was frying, my third eye point of midbrow was

tense or was it my frontal lobe? My crown point was cold, oh what

hell that was, when I went to sleep it was as if I was in limbo like

an astral dream but not having the ability to dream, it was as if I

was locked out of the dreamworld and yet not conscious, bloody

horrible, should have had toxicity tests in London but said no

seeing as I had sight interferance as well and wanted to sleep and

rest (I could see on the periphery of my vision glass like frame

around my right eye - weird) Anyway all stoppen when I stopped

taking this stuff, whcih had traces of arsenic or mercury and lead,

I didn't purify enough the batch that I made, the next batch (call

me crazy) I made and purified the hell out of it and NO symptoms at

all, but no benefits as well and so this taught me to be really

respectful of minerals and potentially toxic substances.

Each person is very individual as well, I have taken up to 55

apricot kernels in one day and the FDA say that more than 2 could be

dangerous due to the Cyanide risk, and yet I have taken a mere 500mg

of Niacin and the flush of B3 dropped my blood pressure to 60/90 and

almost fainted and sent me to hospital.

November 27, 2008

On 11/26/2008, May (luellamay129) wrote:

> Speaking of the conversations I am overhearing here at the Utopia

> Silver Offices, get colloidal gold for your depression. It does more

> than merely uplift your mood. It truly relieves depression. It

> works on the brain receptors and so many other things. People are

> using it for serious psychiactric disorders with much success. One

> lady has overcome her bi polar issues by taking colloidal silver.

I assume that last comment you meant colloidal *gold*, not silver?

This is interesting. I remember reading this about CG somewhere else a

long time ago but had forgotten about it... I know someone having

problems with depression, so will have to give this a try...

2 questions about the Utopian CS maker...

1. Apparently the more expensive one will make colloidal gold?

and

2. The makers of the Silver Puppy claim that their CS is superior

because of the 'stirring' that it performs during the creation

process... comments?

Thanks...

November 28, 2008

Is

there a specific dosage?

Timo

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Re:

Colloidal Gold/Rhoda

On 11/26/2008, May (luellamay129 ) wrote: