Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Helen: Sometime it keeps me awake all night and well into the next day. awareness.investigation.knowledge.potential.motivation.action.patience.results Duke Dallas - Texas info --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote: Helen Wang <dingyung49 sleeping crisisoleander soup Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:01 AM Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake. Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too? Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea. Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you? Samala, Renee ---- Helen Wang 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM oleander soup sleeping crisis Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Helen, Tea from oregano leaves is known to be effective for coughs. Fresh leaves are preferred, but since it is winter, dried leaves should suffice. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definetely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Gaiacita <gaiacita wrote: Gaiacita <gaiacitaRe: sleeping crisisoleander soup Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:09 PM Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake. Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too? Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea. Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you? Samala, Renee -- -- Helen Wang 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM oleander soup sleeping crisis Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Helen,If you are taking Vit C after taking the MMS, then you are neutralizing the effects of the MMS. You are not supposed to use Vit C at all while using the MMS, unless you have had a bad reaction that you need stopped. Vit C neutralizes it and stops the reaction. I know I have had to use the C for that. According to the directions I have read, you take the MMS 2 times a day, 12 hours apart, and increase the drops 1 drop a day/with 5 drops of the citric acid activator to each drop of the MMS. This is the proper way of taking it.It probably did not work because the Vit C prevented it.If you take the MMS according to the proper directions, you most certainly will get results. You are not supposed to take it in a high Vit C juice. Get an apple juice that is low or No Vit C and I am sure you will see how much better it will work. You can contact me if you need to also. I am taking it and reading the book also. I am very excited about what it will do for mircoorganisms and pathogens. I have candida and want to get rid of it I believe this will do it. I am studying the book on this product so I can help others when they have problems. Kathrynoleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definitely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> > --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Gaiacita gaiacita wrote:> > Gaiacita gaiacita Re: sleeping crisis> oleander soup > Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake.> > Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too?> > Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea.> > Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you?> > Samala,> Renee> > > -- --> > > Helen Wang> 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM> oleander soup> sleeping crisis> > > > > > Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hi Helen,What you may be experiencing is a Herxheimer reaction. Your body may be detoxing and giving you these flu like symptoms. It will pass. When I first started taking colloidal silver I, too, came down with what I thought was a severe flu. So bad I was in bed for a week. In reality, what I was doing was detoxing. The colloidal silver was causing my body to get rid of all the toxins. Colloidal silver will do this. As I said before, I know very little about MMS and I don't know if MMS would also cause you to detox giving you this reaction. Here is an article with regard to this subject:/Herxheimer.htm How many times did you take the apple cider vinegar and honey? Keep taking it. Give it a chance to work. I concur that it will help your cough. Also hot herbal teas will help.For the joint pain and discomfort that you describe, the following should help you: * Joint Support * Colloidal Gold * Colloidal Silver * Trace Minerals * Omega 3With regard to your toes and fingers becoming white in the cold, this is a condition called Raynaud's Disease. The tiny arteries in the body's extremities react severely to changes in temperature. When cold, the capillaries contract and the fingers and toes turn white. It's nothing to be alarmed about, it is just intense sensitivity to cold weather or cold conditions. Sometimes the fingers and toes can turn blue. Upon warming up, they become red and start to throb as the blood is pumped back into your circulatory system. Try wearing gloves and warm socks during these times.I am so sorry to hear that you are going through all this. I hope I have answered your questions and hopefully, allayed some of your fears.Hugs, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Kathryn, I too have used MMS successfully however I've never used it for more than 3 or 4 days in a row and I wouldn't recommend going above 5 drops sodium chlorite as it is a 28% solution. Even Jim Humble said 5 drops is enough to cure just about anything it is good for given enough time. It's pretty potent stuff so just keep that in mind. Bob - mkathryn59 oleander soup Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:04 PM Re: sleeping crisis Helen,If you are taking Vit C after taking the MMS, then you are neutralizing the effects of the MMS. You are not supposed to use Vit C at all while using the MMS, unless you have had a bad reaction that you need stopped. Vit C neutralizes it and stops the reaction. I know I have had to use the C for that. According to the directions I have read, you take the MMS 2 times a day, 12 hours apart, and increase the drops 1 drop a day/with 5 drops of the citric acid activator to each drop of the MMS. This is the proper way of taking it.It probably did not work because the Vit C prevented it.If you take the MMS according to the proper directions, you most certainly will get results. You are not supposed to take it in a high Vit C juice. Get an apple juice that is low or No Vit C and I am sure you will see how much better it will work. You can contact me if you need to also. I am taking it and reading the book also. I am very excited about what it will do for mircoorganisms and pathogens. I have candida and want to get rid of it I believe this will do it. I am studying the book on this product so I can help others when they have problems. Kathrynoleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definitely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> > --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Gaiacita gaiacita wrote:> > Gaiacita gaiacita Re: sleeping crisis> oleander soup > Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake.> > Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too?> > Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea.> > Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you?> > Samala,> Renee> > > -- --> > > Helen Wang> 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM> oleander soup> sleeping crisis> > > > > > Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Oleander could help. I am not sure that I agree with no raw vegetables or that herbs alone could remedy a pinched nerve if the problem was because of a bulging disc - though perhaps herbs that were anti-inflammatory could provide relief and perhaps even a remedy if there were no disc problems. As far as I know, no herb can repair a bulging or ruptured disc. It sounds like you may still have pinched nerve issues. If so, an exercise that can help is to lie flat on your back with your legs bent and then thrust your pelvis upwards and hold it in that position, then relax and repeat several times. Also try standing next to a wall and try to get your back as flat against the wall as you can. If you have not been eating ANY meat, you may be deficient in Vitamin B12 and folic acid - which can lead to bone pain and other problems. Bromelain, turmeric, silica, plant derived trace minerals, cayenne pepper tincture and GTF chromium could all be helpful as well. Suma is a good all around herb too. Based on all the symptoms you have described, you may also want to take a look at these two pages: Arthritis Osteoporosis The amount of colloidal silver you have been taking is far less than a therapeutic amount for flu like sympoms and coughing. You should be taking one to two ounces per day. oleander soup , Helen Wang <dingyung49 wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definetely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I think I am alergy to Silver. I remember I found bumps on my scalp yesterday I did not take herb. I am woorry. I heart beat goes fast. My throat not feeling rightl ........What shall I do...........help. --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Tony wrote: Tony Re: sleeping crisisoleander soup Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:16 PM Oleander could help. I am not sure that I agree with no raw vegetables or that herbs alone could remedy a pinched nerve if the problem was because of a bulging disc - though perhaps herbs that were anti-inflammatory could provide relief and perhaps even a remedy if there were no disc problems. As far as I know, no herb can repair a bulging or ruptured disc. It sounds like you may still have pinched nerve issues. If so, an exercise that can help is to lie flat on your back with your legs bent and then thrust your pelvis upwards and hold it in that position, then relax and repeat several times. Also try standing next to a wall and try to get your back as flat against the wall as you can. If you have not been eating ANY meat, you may be deficient in Vitamin B12 and folic acid - which can lead to bone pain and other problems. Bromelain, turmeric, silica, plant derived trace minerals, cayenne pepper tincture and GTF chromium could all be helpful as well. Suma is a good all around herb too. Based on all the symptoms you have described, you may also want to take a look at these two pages: Arthritis Osteoporosis The amount of colloidal silver you have been taking is far less than a therapeutic amount for flu like sympoms and coughing. You should be taking one to two ounces per day. oleander soup, Helen Wang <dingyung49@. ..> wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/ vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definetely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/ nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 My phone 415 221 2327 please tell me what to do....Helen--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Tony wrote: Tony Re: sleeping crisisoleander soup Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:16 PM Oleander could help. I am not sure that I agree with no raw vegetables or that herbs alone could remedy a pinched nerve if the problem was because of a bulging disc - though perhaps herbs that were anti-inflammatory could provide relief and perhaps even a remedy if there were no disc problems. As far as I know, no herb can repair a bulging or ruptured disc. It sounds like you may still have pinched nerve issues. If so, an exercise that can help is to lie flat on your back with your legs bent and then thrust your pelvis upwards and hold it in that position, then relax and repeat several times. Also try standing next to a wall and try to get your back as flat against the wall as you can. If you have not been eating ANY meat, you may be deficient in Vitamin B12 and folic acid - which can lead to bone pain and other problems. Bromelain, turmeric, silica, plant derived trace minerals, cayenne pepper tincture and GTF chromium could all be helpful as well. Suma is a good all around herb too. Based on all the symptoms you have described, you may also want to take a look at these two pages: Arthritis Osteoporosis The amount of colloidal silver you have been taking is far less than a therapeutic amount for flu like sympoms and coughing. You should be taking one to two ounces per day. oleander soup, Helen Wang <dingyung49@. ..> wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/ vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definetely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/ nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Just tell you I am ok. I took ati-histamine and water. the swollon of face and throat sub-side. --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Tony wrote: Tony Re: sleeping crisisoleander soup Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:16 PM Oleander could help. I am not sure that I agree with no raw vegetables or that herbs alone could remedy a pinched nerve if the problem was because of a bulging disc - though perhaps herbs that were anti-inflammatory could provide relief and perhaps even a remedy if there were no disc problems. As far as I know, no herb can repair a bulging or ruptured disc. It sounds like you may still have pinched nerve issues. If so, an exercise that can help is to lie flat on your back with your legs bent and then thrust your pelvis upwards and hold it in that position, then relax and repeat several times. Also try standing next to a wall and try to get your back as flat against the wall as you can. If you have not been eating ANY meat, you may be deficient in Vitamin B12 and folic acid - which can lead to bone pain and other problems. Bromelain, turmeric, silica, plant derived trace minerals, cayenne pepper tincture and GTF chromium could all be helpful as well. Suma is a good all around herb too. Based on all the symptoms you have described, you may also want to take a look at these two pages: Arthritis Osteoporosis The amount of colloidal silver you have been taking is far less than a therapeutic amount for flu like sympoms and coughing. You should be taking one to two ounces per day. oleander soup, Helen Wang <dingyung49@. ..> wrote:>> I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/ vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definetely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/ nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hi Helen. YES, Peter's magnets will help you a great deal. Please write him any questions about using the magnets once you get his book. He's very nice, very helpful and will give you good information on your health issuse. Vit. C, in any form, will stop MMS from working. So if you took C just a few hours apart from MMS, the MMS didn't do you much good at all. If the juice you took MMS with had a lot of C, then the MMS didn't work a bit. For people that still want to take C while on MMS, I recommend them taking C and any other supplements during the day--then stop taking anything about 4 hours before bed. Then just before bed they take the MMS. MMS will work for 12 hours, so when you take it before bed, it will work all night long. Then when you wake up in the morning, you can start taking C, even though you have not slept for 12 hours. There won't be a lot of MMS left to work after 8 or 10 hours anyway, so any of it that will be stopped by taking C in the morning is ok to do without. Usually taking MMS this way does not bother a person's sleep--unless you happen to be one of those people that MMS does keep awake. For most people MMS helps them sleep, but there are certain people that it will keep them awake. The only way you will know for sure is to take it this way--at night just before bedtime. You may have been awake before because of your illness keeping you awake. Your pain in the feet, fingers and legs sounds like Menier's disease. I know I've spelled that wrong. It's a nerve issue. The magnets will help with that. I know some people have used herbs to great relief for joint and disc problems, but they don't "fix" it permanently. But Chinese doctors--if they are good ones--can do a LOT towards curing these types of things. Usually accupuncture is involved too. They base most of their health decisions on whether a person is a hot or cold type and a dry or wet type. It's all very complicated for us westerners. :-) So to us it sometimes doesn't make sense to eat some "warm" food, like meat, when we think it is too acidic for us--but to the Chinese they have a totally different way of understanding health than we do, so his method may just help you a lot. Thing is--if you decide to go with what the Chinese doctor says, you must follow his advice all the way and not mix in what we think is right the western way. Because if he says you need warm/hot foods--and then you don't eat them--the rest of the herbs that he may give you won't work as well as they should, because they would be missing that warm food ingredient. Kind of hard to explain, but as I said--it's a very, very different way of treating health problems. And if you decide to continue with the Chinese doctor, and you start using the magnets--be sure to tell him that you are using the magnets. That may have an effect on the things he has you do or take. But I've very sure the magnets will help, and I'm pretty sure they will help a LOT. Especially if you talk to Peter. But get the book and read it first. I can (hopefully) answer some simple questions for you about the magnets, as I have been talking to Peter myself, and using the magnets already. But for big questions I'll always direct you to talk to Peter. Samala, Renee ---- Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake. Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too? Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea. Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you? Samala, Renee -- -- Helen Wang 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM oleander soup sleeping crisis Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Renee,Meniere's Disease is a disorder of the inner ear.Hugs,oleander soup , "Gaiacita" <gaiacita wrote:>> Hi Helen. YES, Peter's magnets will help you a great deal. Please write> him any questions about using the magnets once you get his book. He's very> nice, very helpful and will give you good information on your health issuse. > > Vit. C, in any form, will stop MMS from working. So if you took C just a> few hours apart from MMS, the MMS didn't do you much good at all. If the> juice you took MMS with had a lot of C, then the MMS didn't work a bit. For> people that still want to take C while on MMS, I recommend them taking C and> any other supplements during the day--then stop taking anything about 4> hours before bed. Then just before bed they take the MMS. MMS will work> for 12 hours, so when you take it before bed, it will work all night long. > Then when you wake up in the morning, you can start taking C, even though> you have not slept for 12 hours. There won't be a lot of MMS left to work> after 8 or 10 hours anyway, so any of it that will be stopped by taking C in> the morning is ok to do without. > > Usually taking MMS this way does not bother a person's sleep--unless you> happen to be one of those people that MMS does keep awake. For most people> MMS helps them sleep, but there are certain people that it will keep them> awake. The only way you will know for sure is to take it this way--at night> just before bedtime. > > You may have been awake before because of your illness keeping you awake. > > Your pain in the feet, fingers and legs sounds like Menier's disease. I> know I've spelled that wrong. It's a nerve issue. The magnets will help> with that. > > I know some people have used herbs to great relief for joint and disc> problems, but they don't "fix" it permanently. But Chinese doctors--if they> are good ones--can do a LOT towards curing these types of things. Usually> accupuncture is involved too. They base most of their health decisions on> whether a person is a hot or cold type and a dry or wet type. It's all very> complicated for us westerners. :-) So to us it sometimes doesn't make> sense to eat some "warm" food, like meat, when we think it is too acidic for> us--but to the Chinese they have a totally different way of understanding> health than we do, so his method may just help you a lot. Thing is--if you> decide to go with what the Chinese doctor says, you must follow his advice> all the way and not mix in what we think is right the western way. Because> if he says you need warm/hot foods--and then you don't eat them--the rest of> the herbs that he may give you won't work as well as they should, because> they would be missing that warm food ingredient. Kind of hard to explain,> but as I said--it's a very, very different way of treating health problems. > > And if you decide to continue with the Chinese doctor, and you start using> the magnets--be sure to tell him that you are using the magnets. That may> have an effect on the things he has you do or take. > > But I've very sure the magnets will help, and I'm pretty sure they will help> a LOT. Especially if you talk to Peter. But get the book and read it first> I can (hopefully) answer some simple questions for you about the magnets,> as I have been talking to Peter myself, and using the magnets already. But> for big questions I'll always direct you to talk to Peter. > > Samala, > Renee > > > ---- > > > Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in> between. > > My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. Yes, I just> ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen > > > > Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes> them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS> that is making you hyper and keeping you awake. > > Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too? > > Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat> without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without> throwing up or having diarrhea. > > Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit?> If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and> getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out> there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the> health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets> for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's> method, don't you? > > Samala, > Renee > > -- -- > > Helen Wang > 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM > oleander soup > sleeping crisis > > Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue,> which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got> bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a> week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table> spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from> drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I> felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray> God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that> could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just> ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can> help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. Helen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Yes, I know it is very powerful. Jim Humble says you should follow the protocol and increase the drops gradually and if you reach a point where you have a problem then back off a drop or two for a day or two or longer. But dont stop taking it when dealing with serious health problems.Read what he says here on his site:http://jimhumble.biz/?page_id=14 You can get an idea if the MMS will handle the problem by evaluating the nausea. That is, if you start out at say one drop or even 1/2 drop and it does not make you nauseous and then you begin to increase the drops twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening. That is if 1/2 drop doesn't make you nauseous in the morning, then in the evening or late afternoon try one full drop. Then the next morning take two drops and in the evening 3 drops. Sooner or later the number of drops is going to make you nauseous. You then take a drop or two less the next dose for a time or two and continue to increase the drops. You are always looking for the nauseous point, taking less for a time or two and attempting to take more. You will be able to know if it is going to help you if you can continue to pass the nausea point and increase the drops. What is happening is that when nausea hits, some of the cancer has been destroyed and it is now a poison that the body can clear out. Being able to clear out this poison is a part of it. The body can clear this poison out but it might generate some nausea in the process, or diarrhea or even vomiting. That's not bad. The idea is that as the cancer is destroyed the body must clean out the poisons. As the cancer is destroyed the body can tolerate more and more drops. That's the indicator, is the body being able to tolerate more and more drops? If you find that you finally can increase the drops without getting nauseous it is an indicator that the body is doing it's job. In the case of cancer, you have got to work at it. You start out slowly but increase quickly. At first you might just take the drops twice a day, but as you find you can do it twice a day without nausea, then increase to three times a day, and then four, and even as much as five times a day. Use Apples to overcome nausea. Use grated apples. Get a stainless steel grater. Don't buy the cheap tin grater. The grated metal cuts up the cells of the apple best. If a certain number of drops of MMS is making you nauseous, try at least two apples grated right after you take the MMS or just before you start getting nauseous. Always try the apples first, even two extra apples (4 altogether), but if you are still too sick, take as much as two teaspoons of baking soda in water. Robert Von Sarbacher got me started on the apples. He can help you. His phone number is 940...What would indicate that you are not getting well is if the body got nauseous every time you take a dose no matter what amount of dose it is, and the body never seems to be able to increase the doses without nausea. But work at it. You can make it work. If you can take say two drops at a time without nausea and you get nausea when you go to three drops, you may have to tolerate the nausea for a short time, but if the nausea always occurs when you take three drops, it shows that you are not gaining on the cancer. That can happen if the cancer is growing faster than the MMS is killing it. There is, however, always hope. One way would be instead of increasing the number of drops, increase the number of times that you take drops during the day. Read below. There are other items that can help. Never, however, in any case stop taking the MMS.He does recommend the black salve for use with the MMS. Regards,Kathrynoleander soup , "Bob Banever" <bbanever wrote:>> Kathryn,> > I too have used MMS successfully however I've never used it for more than 3 or 4 days in a row and I wouldn't recommend going above 5 drops sodium chlorite as it is a 28% solution. Even Jim Humble said 5 drops is enough to cure just about anything it is good for given enough time. It's pretty potent stuff so just keep that in mind.> > Bob> - > mkathryn59 > oleander soup > Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:04 PM> Re: sleeping crisis> > > Helen,> If you are taking Vit C after taking the MMS, then you are neutralizing the effects of the MMS. You are not supposed to use Vit C at all while using the MMS, unless you have had a bad reaction that you need stopped. Vit C neutralizes it and stops the reaction. I know I have had to use the C for that. > According to the directions I have read, you take the MMS 2 times a day, 12 hours apart, and increase the drops 1 drop a day/with 5 drops of the citric acid activator to each drop of the MMS. This is the proper way of taking it.> It probably did not work because the Vit C prevented it.> If you take the MMS according to the proper directions, you most certainly will get results. You are not supposed to take it in a high Vit C juice. Get an apple juice that is low or No Vit C and I am sure you will see how much better it will work. > You can contact me if you need to also. I am taking it and reading the book also. I am very excited about what it will do for mircoorganisms and pathogens. I have candida and want to get rid of it I believe this will do it. I am studying the book on this product so I can help others when they have problems. > > Kathryn> > > > > oleander soup , Helen Wang dingyung49@ wrote:> >> > I was sold by listening Jim Humble's cd. For the first time a while ago I started at 6 drops and then went up to 12 drops. No ill effects. This time I jumped to 15 drops every day for three days. I have no diarrhea but throwing out in good time. I wonder why it did not work but giving me hyper. I am full of energy daytime with so little sleep(???). Yes, I added lemon/honey/vitamin C juice drink not too long apart in between. I took 1/2 tea sp. silver also...Later I stoped the MMS and added 1/2 table sp. Silver and took our member suggested ACV/honey. It did not work either. My whole body having flu-like bone pain and coughing every other moments. My girl friend recommended me seeing Chinese Herb doctors. He said brewing four days his herb soup, it will definitely clear my cough and cold. He asked my medical history. I told him I 63. At 36 had a hyst. due to heavy bleeding. When I woke up the operation table, I just> > realized doctor also took out both of my ovary just because seeing some cysts. Doctor shaked his head said it was really not necessary. He could fix it. I also said I had back surgery five years ago due to disc pinching nerves. He also said another unnecessary operation. He explained how this happened and herbs could taking care of it. Don't know how much I believe him for that. I told him for 20 years, I have been suffering undiagnosised deep soreness bone pain not just limited to joint. Move around all over. Each time attacking different spots. I need somebody pounding /pressing me very hard to relief the pain. Two or three times was sent to ER for pain. Now my legs/foots have dull/soreness pain all the time. My muscle/vessel/nerve on my foot/leg are constant in pain. If I stand still, nerves all flare up/tingling or sometimes feel like needle pinching. My foots/fingers will become discolor(pure white) when I feel> > cold. He said I should not eat raw veg. or certain fruit especially banana. I should add more warm foods like meat. I am so confused about diet. I have not eaten meats for some time thinking my soreness is due to too acid in my body. He said it was coldness/wetness got into my body. I am just wondering can oleander help to defend my body from cold/wet attack? I would like to try anything because I have been suffering enough. Yes, I just ordered Peter's kits. Do you think it will help my ailments? Helen> > > > --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Gaiacita gaiacita@ wrote:> > > > Gaiacita gaiacita@> > Re: sleeping crisis> > oleander soup > > Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 3:09 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Helen. Yes, MMS can make some people hyper. For some people it makes them sleep. So out of everything you took, it could certainly be the MMS that is making you hyper and keeping you awake.> > > > Perhaps the coughing is keeping you awake, too?> > > > Have you taken MMS before? Were you able to take 15 drops right off the bat without building up to it? Highly unusual if you could do that without throwing up or having diarrhea.> > > > Magnets will help just about everything. Where did you get your magnet kit? If you didn't get it from BioMag Science I would suggest going there and getting Peter Kulish's book on how to use magnets. His is the best book out there, and his method of using magnets for healing is now taught in the health colleges in Japan--and they are a people that have been using magnets for healing for 5000 years. I think that's saying something for Peter's method, don't you?> > > > Samala,> > Renee> > > > > > -- --> > > > > > Helen Wang> > 1/7/2009 9:26:55 AM> > oleander soup> > sleeping crisis> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am a member for a while but seldom post. I have chronic health issue, which I will adress at some other time. This is a acute one. I just got bad cold this holiday season. Persistant cough lingering for more than a week. I tried MMS 15 drops for three days and Ultopia silver 1/2 table spoon daily and some vitamin c drinks, ginger, honey, plus Robitussin from drug store etc. It did not do much for my cough and chest Congestion. I felt very hyper and for last three days, I slept only 3 hours. I even pray God helping me to get sleep. Do MMS and silver make people hyper that could not get to sleep. I think I will stop MMS/silver for now. I just ordered magnet kits. Do you think it will help sleeping. What herbs can help cough? I can't stand anymore, please help soon. 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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Lol--ok, I got my words mixed up. They both start with M. What's the name of the disease that makes the hands and feet really cold? The word escapes me now! Man--I've GOT to dig out my gingko! Lol Samala, Renee ---- Meniere's Disease is a disorder of the inner ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 LOL! That's Raynaud's. Not to worry. I do that all the time.Hugs,oleander soup , "Gaiacita" <gaiacita wrote:>> Lol--ok, I got my words mixed up. They both start with M. What's the name> of the disease that makes the hands and feet really cold? The word escapes> me now! > > Man--I've GOT to dig out my gingko! Lol > > Samala, > Renee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Oh NO!!! That's not an M--that's an R. Quick--my gingko!!!!! Where's the bloody gingko????????? Samala, Renee--running for my herb cabinet now ---- LOL! That's Raynaud's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are too funny!Love ya,oleander soup , "Gaiacita" <gaiacita wrote:>> Oh NO!!! That's not an M--that's an R. Quick--my gingko!!!!! Where's the> bloody gingko????????? > > Samala, > Renee--running for my herb cabinet now > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Oh Renne. i laugh and laugh, thank you girl. Hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Friday, January 09, 2009 4:27 PM Re: Re: sleeping crisis Oh NO!!! That's not an M--that's an R. Quick--my gingko!!!!! Where's the bloody gingko????????? Samala, Renee--running for my herb cabinet now ---- LOL! That's Raynaud's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 ;-) Glad you can have a good laugh Mary. Samala, Renee ---- Oh Renne. i laugh and laugh, thank you girl. Hugs Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Of cource i can Renee, just give me a good reason to laugh and i will, like every body else, and yesterday that was funny. Hugs Mary - Gaiacita oleander soup Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:16 AM Re: Re: sleeping crisis ;-) Glad you can have a good laugh Mary. Samala, Renee ---- Oh Renne. i laugh and laugh, thank you girl. Hugs Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 Back in 1972 I was living in southern New Hampshire and the local drugstore decided to clean out the store room. They put a lot of old patent medicines out for sale at a big discount. As a budding herbalist I found it a treasure trove and purchased some of the oldest of the products. They were VERY old with interesting shaped bottles and labels in black and white. One was a bottle of original Robitussin cough medicine. The ingredients were powdered thyme, cod liver oil, and honey. I actually used it for me and my kids. Seemed to work. There was also a bottle of eyewash that contained golden seal. Ruth oleander soup , melly banagale <tita_mel wrote: > > Helen, > > Tea from oregano leaves is known to be effective for coughs. Fresh leaves are preferred, but since it is winter, dried leaves should suffice. > > Melly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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