Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4cancer.com/truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Maria, Can you imagine any humane government or person for that matter denying access to life saving natural food or medicine such as apricot seeds? It is INFORGIVABLE! What sort of monsters inhabit this world who would do such a dastardly thing? Just unreal. Bob - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:00 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I have munched a few apricot pits myself from time to time. I think it is great as a preventive measure and yes, I think it works together OK with oleander - that is why it is listed in my protocol. Laetrile is not something I would rely on all by itself to beat cancer. oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Tony,> > I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too.> The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge.> > P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not> > Hugs Mary> - > Tony Isaacs > oleander soup > Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM> Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> > > In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation.> > A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one:> > "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances."> > I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking.> > Tony> > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon wrote:> > > Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> oleander soup > Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM> > > This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. > hope this is of intrest to you .> > Hugs Mary > > http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznatureshop.com/product.asp?display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Tony & Mary, I'm a first time poster and a 20 year fNHL survivor. My first treatment was 8 rounds of CHOP chemotherapy. Not a cool move but 20 years ago I was really scared and ripe for the picking. 1st relapse, 15 years later I turned back fNHL again with any number of alternatives to include diet, exercise, essiac tea, pancreatic enzymes and low dose naltrexone. The 3rd relapse did not respond to any of the prior alternatives and I turned to what is called the "Laetrile Metabolic Therapy" Regimen used by the Oasis of Hope Hospital. I'm just completing six months on this regimen. All fNHL symptoms are again in remission and I'll change to a maintenance dose of laetrile and other alternatives in a few weeks. Here is the complete regimen I have followed. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf I pretty much follow this guide to the letter. I know of one other patient on the regimen who is also having success. I also personally know of one patient where laetrile appeared not to be working. I have joined your list in order to learn more about oleander for possible use when the need arises. Good Luck & Good Health, Del - Tony oleander soup Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:00 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I have munched a few apricot pits myself from time to time. I think it is great as a preventive measure and yes, I think it works together OK with oleander - that is why it is listed in my protocol. Laetrile is not something I would rely on all by itself to beat cancer. oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Tony,> > I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too.> The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge.> > P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not> > Hugs Mary> - > Tony Isaacs > oleander soup > Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM> Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> > > In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation.> > A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one:> > "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances."> > I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking.> > Tony> > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon wrote:> > > Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> oleander soup > Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM> > > This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. > hope this is of intrest to you .> > Hugs Mary > > http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Bob. I dont have to imagine anything i lived through it, when i needed to buy the apricots for my husband when he was sick, i had to sign some bloody papers saying that the seeds where food for animals !!!! and then i had to wait for 3 weeks to arive, the frastresion was overwelming and still is today, and to think that we the people vote for this b !!!!!!!!!! to make laws for us, i dont know why they are do what the do but is not fair, especialy to sick people, i like to see some of them sick as dogs, god forgive me. Hugs Mary - Bob Banever oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 2:33 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Maria, Can you imagine any humane government or person for that matter denying access to life saving natural food or medicine such as apricot seeds? It is INFORGIVABLE! What sort of monsters inhabit this world who would do such a dastardly thing? Just unreal. Bob - Maria Stathopoulos oleander soup Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:00 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Fair enough, as long as we know they help as a preventitive, they are bitter as anything though eh? Hugs Mary - Tony oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:00 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I have munched a few apricot pits myself from time to time. I think it is great as a preventive measure and yes, I think it works together OK with oleander - that is why it is listed in my protocol. Laetrile is not something I would rely on all by itself to beat cancer. oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Tony,> > I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too.> The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge.> > P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not> > Hugs Mary> - > Tony Isaacs > oleander soup > Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM> Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> > > In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation.> > A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one:> > "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances."> > I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking.> > Tony> > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon wrote:> > > Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> oleander soup > Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM> > > This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. > hope this is of intrest to you .> > Hugs Mary > > http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 welcome to our group Del, I would suggest: keeping your diet and lifestyle healthy (including adequate sunshine and some regular physical activity) make sure that at a minimum you get adequate magnesium, vitamin D3, iodine and trace minerals perhaps add a couple other good anti-oxidants/supplements like grapeseed extract, blackseen oil extract and curcumin, cleanse and detox regularly do periodic fasts take extra care to keep your liver protected and regenerated, and then, get yourself some Sutherlandia OPC and take a single capsule once every three days. Between those suggestions, which are not at all difficult to do, and what you are already doing, you very likely may never have cancer return. I just don't see cancer ever getting past a healthy body that also takes laetrile and oleander. Thanks so much for posting your information! oleander soup , "Del at Dri-Wash" <del wrote:>> Tony & Mary,> > I'm a first time poster and a 20 year fNHL survivor. My first treatment was 8 rounds of CHOP chemotherapy. Not a cool move but 20 years ago I was really scared and ripe for the picking. 1st relapse, 15 years later I turned back fNHL again with any number of alternatives to include diet, exercise, essiac tea, pancreatic enzymes and low dose naltrexone. > > The 3rd relapse did not respond to any of the prior alternatives and I turned to what is called the "Laetrile Metabolic Therapy" Regimen used by the Oasis of Hope Hospital. I'm just completing six months on this regimen. All fNHL symptoms are again in remission and I'll change to a maintenance dose of laetrile and other alternatives in a few weeks.> > Here is the complete regimen I have followed. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf > > I pretty much follow this guide to the letter. I know of one other patient on the regimen who is also having success. I also personally know of one patient where laetrile appeared not to be working.> > I have joined your list in order to learn more about oleander for possible use when the need arises.> > Good Luck & Good Health,> > Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 Hi Tony, Thanks for the warm welcome. I didn't want to confuse the laetrile issue with all the things I currently do. I will address your remarks just briefly. Diet - 90% vegan with very little processed, no gmo, very rarely a piece pacific salmon or grass feed beef Exercise - still active runner currently training 35 miles weekly Supplement- magnesium, lugols and trace minerals. Use Sperti Vitamin D lamp on daily basis CC/FO once daily with 1 gram curcumin plus ground flax seed. Amalgams have been removed, periodic detox using Cutler's regimen. I need to get into the occasional fasting mode. Not too compatible with current laetrile metabolic diet but once it's over will give that a shot. :-) Question - you seem to recommend the Sutherlandia OPC capsules over the liquid. Any particular reason other than convenience? Thanks again for the warm welcome and your interest. Will try to contribute something useful now and again. Del - Tony oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:48 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 welcome to our group Del, I would suggest: keeping your diet and lifestyle healthy (including adequate sunshine and some regular physical activity) make sure that at a minimum you get adequate magnesium, vitamin D3, iodine and trace minerals perhaps add a couple other good anti-oxidants/supplements like grapeseed extract, blackseen oil extract and curcumin, cleanse and detox regularly do periodic fasts take extra care to keep your liver protected and regenerated, and then, get yourself some Sutherlandia OPC and take a single capsule once every three days. Between those suggestions, which are not at all difficult to do, and what you are already doing, you very likely may never have cancer return. I just don't see cancer ever getting past a healthy body that also takes laetrile and oleander. Thanks so much for posting your information! oleander soup , "Del at Dri-Wash" <del wrote:>> Tony & Mary,> > I'm a first time poster and a 20 year fNHL survivor. My first treatment was 8 rounds of CHOP chemotherapy. Not a cool move but 20 years ago I was really scared and ripe for the picking. 1st relapse, 15 years later I turned back fNHL again with any number of alternatives to include diet, exercise, essiac tea, pancreatic enzymes and low dose naltrexone. > > The 3rd relapse did not respond to any of the prior alternatives and I turned to what is called the "Laetrile Metabolic Therapy" Regimen used by the Oasis of Hope Hospital. I'm just completing six months on this regimen. All fNHL symptoms are again in remission and I'll change to a maintenance dose of laetrile and other alternatives in a few weeks.> > Here is the complete regimen I have followed. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf > > I pretty much follow this guide to the letter. I know of one other patient on the regimen who is also having success. I also personally know of one patient where laetrile appeared not to be working.> > I have joined your list in order to learn more about oleander for possible use when the need arises.> > Good Luck & Good Health,> > Del Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznatureshop.com/product.asp?display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Sounds to me like you are doing most things right then. Capsules of OPC are less expensive and easier to tolerate for those who may have problems. If I had to choose and were actively fighting cancer, HIV, Hep-C, etc., I would probably pick the extract. oleander soup , "Del at Dri-Wash" <del wrote:>> Hi Tony, Thanks for the warm welcome.> > I didn't want to confuse the laetrile issue with all the things I currently do. I will address your remarks just briefly.> > Diet - 90% vegan with very little processed, no gmo, very rarely a piece pacific salmon or grass feed beef> > Exercise - still active runner currently training 35 miles weekly> > Supplement- magnesium, lugols and trace minerals. Use Sperti Vitamin D lamp on daily basis> > CC/FO once daily with 1 gram curcumin plus ground flax seed.> > Amalgams have been removed, periodic detox using Cutler's regimen. > > I need to get into the occasional fasting mode. Not too compatible with current laetrile metabolic diet but once it's over will give that a shot. :-)> > Question - you seem to recommend the Sutherlandia OPC capsules over the liquid. Any particular reason other than convenience?> > Thanks again for the warm welcome and your interest. Will try to contribute something useful now and again.> > Del> - > Tony > oleander soup > Monday, February 09, 2009 3:48 PM> Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> > > welcome to our group Del,> > I would suggest:> > a.. keeping your diet and lifestyle healthy (including adequate sunshine and some regular physical activity) > b.. make sure that at a minimum you get adequate magnesium, vitamin D3, iodine and trace minerals > c.. perhaps add a couple other good anti-oxidants/supplements like grapeseed extract, blackseen oil extract and curcumin, cleanse and detox regularly > d.. do periodic fasts > e.. take extra care to keep your liver protected and regenerated, and then, > f.. get yourself some Sutherlandia OPC and take a single capsule once every three days.> Between those suggestions, which are not at all difficult to do, and what you are already doing, you very likely may never have cancer return. I just don't see cancer ever getting past a healthy body that also takes laetrile and oleander.> > Thanks so much for posting your information!> > Tony> > > oleander soup , "Del at Dri-Wash" del@ wrote:> >> > Tony & Mary,> > > > I'm a first time poster and a 20 year fNHL survivor. My first treatment was 8 rounds of CHOP chemotherapy. Not a cool move but 20 years ago I was really scared and ripe for the picking. 1st relapse, 15 years later I turned back fNHL again with any number of alternatives to include diet, exercise, essiac tea, pancreatic enzymes and low dose naltrexone. > > > > The 3rd relapse did not respond to any of the prior alternatives and I turned to what is called the "Laetrile Metabolic Therapy" Regimen used by the Oasis of Hope Hospital. I'm just completing six months on this regimen. All fNHL symptoms are again in remission and I'll change to a maintenance dose of laetrile and other alternatives in a few weeks.> > > > Here is the complete regimen I have followed. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf > > > > I pretty much follow this guide to the letter. I know of one other patient on the regimen who is also having success. I also personally know of one patient where laetrile appeared not to be working.> > > > I have joined your list in order to learn more about oleander for possible use when the need arises.> > > > Good Luck & Good Health,> > > > Del> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey Del welcome to the group. I'm sure Tony will answer all your questions soon, i'm not in a position to do so, not like Tony anyway. 20 years survivor thats fantastic results, i will study your regimen soon just for my records. Regards Mary - Del at Dri-Wash oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:44 PM Re: Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Tony & Mary, I'm a first time poster and a 20 year fNHL survivor. My first treatment was 8 rounds of CHOP chemotherapy. Not a cool move but 20 years ago I was really scared and ripe for the picking. 1st relapse, 15 years later I turned back fNHL again with any number of alternatives to include diet, exercise, essiac tea, pancreatic enzymes and low dose naltrexone. The 3rd relapse did not respond to any of the prior alternatives and I turned to what is called the "Laetrile Metabolic Therapy" Regimen used by the Oasis of Hope Hospital. I'm just completing six months on this regimen. All fNHL symptoms are again in remission and I'll change to a maintenance dose of laetrile and other alternatives in a few weeks. Here is the complete regimen I have followed. http://www.worldwithoutcancer.org.uk/FINALGUIDEUKpdfEbook.pdf I pretty much follow this guide to the letter. I know of one other patient on the regimen who is also having success. I also personally know of one patient where laetrile appeared not to be working. I have joined your list in order to learn more about oleander for possible use when the need arises. Good Luck & Good Health, Del - Tony oleander soup Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:00 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I have munched a few apricot pits myself from time to time. I think it is great as a preventive measure and yes, I think it works together OK with oleander - that is why it is listed in my protocol. Laetrile is not something I would rely on all by itself to beat cancer. oleander soup , "Maria Stathopoulos" <mary1kon wrote:>> Tony,> > I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too.> The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge.> > P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not> > Hugs Mary> - > Tony Isaacs > oleander soup > Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM> Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> > > In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation.> > A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one:> > "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances."> > I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking.> > Tony> > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon wrote:> > > Maria Stathopoulos mary1kon Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17> oleander soup > Saturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM> > > This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. > hope this is of intrest to you .> > Hugs Mary > > http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thank-you Mary.I would love to have the phone number! That is a very good price. And if you are happy with the quality (and the fact that they have shells on them) - sounds great to me.My husband is a forensic police officer. So he gets to go to all the horrible stuff. We had to turn the TV off last night as I couldn't stop crying at the sheer loss of life, livelihood and all too apparent mass murder by arsonists. That is just too much destructive news for me right now.Looking forward to your reply. Glad you are doing fine.Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznature shop.com/ product.asp? display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupMonday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Oh Eva what a horrible job, i mean to see all this dad people and stuff, but then again he must like his job other ways he would been doin it Yes i have been crying for couple days now with the terrible things that we see on tv, and no way to help other then money donation. I like to see the arsonist hang upside down from a tree for days on and. Ok Eva here are the details - J D COATES PTY LTD, 50 WILLIAMS ROAD SHEPPARTON VICTORIA POST CODE 3630 PHONE ( 03) 58312680) I hope they still on business the last time i bought seeds was 10 months ego, yes i'm happy with the product, but as i said they hard to break, you need a gunget to manage that, and after you break them you must keep them in the fridge so they dont loose the vit b17 or get spoiled. Thanks again for your intrest Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:40 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thank-you Mary.I would love to have the phone number! That is a very good price. And if you are happy with the quality (and the fact that they have shells on them) - sounds great to me.My husband is a forensic police officer. So he gets to go to all the horrible stuff. We had to turn the TV off last night as I couldn't stop crying at the sheer loss of life, livelihood and all too apparent mass murder by arsonists. That is just too much destructive news for me right now.Looking forward to your reply. Glad you are doing fine.Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznature shop.com/ product.asp? display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupMonday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Thanks for the info Mary.I will be contacting them soon. I really appreciate it. I just love it that we can share info here on this forum. Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:05 PM Oh Eva what a horrible job, i mean to see all this dad people and stuff, but then again he must like his job other ways he would been doin it Yes i have been crying for couple days now with the terrible things that we see on tv, and no way to help other then money donation. I like to see the arsonist hang upside down from a tree for days on and. Ok Eva here are the details - J D COATES PTY LTD, 50 WILLIAMS ROAD SHEPPARTON VICTORIA POST CODE 3630 PHONE ( 03) 58312680) I hope they still on business the last time i bought seeds was 10 months ego, yes i'm happy with the product, but as i said they hard to break, you need a gunget to manage that, and after you break them you must keep them in the fridge so they dont loose the vit b17 or get spoiled. Thanks again for your intrest Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:40 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thank-you Mary.I would love to have the phone number! That is a very good price. And if you are happy with the quality (and the fact that they have shells on them) - sounds great to me.My husband is a forensic police officer. So he gets to go to all the horrible stuff. We had to turn the TV off last night as I couldn't stop crying at the sheer loss of life, livelihood and all too apparent mass murder by arsonists. That is just too much destructive news for me right now.Looking forward to your reply. Glad you are doing fine.Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupTuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznature shop.com/ product.asp? display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupMonday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 You are welcome Eva. Anytime for anything what so ever, we be here for each other if we can help of cource, one for all and all for one that's what this group stands in my mind for me. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 16, 2009 11:34 AM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thanks for the info Mary.I will be contacting them soon. I really appreciate it. I just love it that we can share info here on this forum. Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:05 PM Oh Eva what a horrible job, i mean to see all this dad people and stuff, but then again he must like his job other ways he would been doin it Yes i have been crying for couple days now with the terrible things that we see on tv, and no way to help other then money donation. I like to see the arsonist hang upside down from a tree for days on and. Ok Eva here are the details - J D COATES PTY LTD, 50 WILLIAMS ROAD SHEPPARTON VICTORIA POST CODE 3630 PHONE ( 03) 58312680) I hope they still on business the last time i bought seeds was 10 months ego, yes i'm happy with the product, but as i said they hard to break, you need a gunget to manage that, and after you break them you must keep them in the fridge so they dont loose the vit b17 or get spoiled. Thanks again for your intrest Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:40 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thank-you Mary.I would love to have the phone number! That is a very good price. And if you are happy with the quality (and the fact that they have shells on them) - sounds great to me.My husband is a forensic police officer. So he gets to go to all the horrible stuff. We had to turn the TV off last night as I couldn't stop crying at the sheer loss of life, livelihood and all too apparent mass murder by arsonists. That is just too much destructive news for me right now.Looking forward to your reply. Glad you are doing fine.Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupTuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznature shop.com/ product.asp? display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupMonday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I agree totally. I feel so blessed to be a part of this group. When you have had cancer and have been regarded by all in your immediate circle to be fairly health conscious, it fairly knocks the stuffing out of you. I cannot even begin to express the support I feel from this group. I realize I am soaking it all in and am too much of a newbie to contribute much myself, however it is precisely this freedom of give and take, of mutual respect and support that is very comforting and at times quite overwhelming - in a very good way.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/16/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soup Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 2:13 AM You are welcome Eva. Anytime for anything what so ever, we be here for each other if we can help of cource, one for all and all for one that's what this group stands in my mind for me. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 16, 2009 11:34 AM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thanks for the info Mary.I will be contacting them soon. I really appreciate it. I just love it that we can share info here on this forum. Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupTuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:05 PM Oh Eva what a horrible job, i mean to see all this dad people and stuff, but then again he must like his job other ways he would been doin it Yes i have been crying for couple days now with the terrible things that we see on tv, and no way to help other then money donation. I like to see the arsonist hang upside down from a tree for days on and. Ok Eva here are the details - J D COATES PTY LTD, 50 WILLIAMS ROAD SHEPPARTON VICTORIA POST CODE 3630 PHONE ( 03) 58312680) I hope they still on business the last time i bought seeds was 10 months ego, yes i'm happy with the product, but as i said they hard to break, you need a gunget to manage that, and after you break them you must keep them in the fridge so they dont loose the vit b17 or get spoiled. Thanks again for your intrest Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:40 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 Thank-you Mary.I would love to have the phone number! That is a very good price. And if you are happy with the quality (and the fact that they have shells on them) - sounds great to me.My husband is a forensic police officer. So he gets to go to all the horrible stuff. We had to turn the TV off last night as I couldn't stop crying at the sheer loss of life, livelihood and all too apparent mass murder by arsonists. That is just too much destructive news for me right now.Looking forward to your reply. Glad you are doing fine.Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupTuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:19 AM Hi Eva. Thanks for asking, yes we are all ok but, very upset of course for what has happen to all this peoples houses, properties, all the victims, animals and dont forget the bush. I heard that you have bush fires in Tasmania too, is it true? and what kind of work does your husband do, that he needs to go to identify victims? Anyway Eva the seeds are better with the shells on as it protects the vitamin B17. i buy 10 kilos with the shells on for $80. hard to break so i bought a little ganget to break them and i keep them in the fridge so they dont spoil. If you want the phone and andress of my seller here in Victoria let me know, they are in Shepparton, idont know if they have an internet site. Thanks again Eva. Hugs Mary - Eva Klein-Otis oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 3:06 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 I've been thinking about taking Apricot seeds for a while now. Mary, I just found a few suppliers online here in Australia. One of which supplies the seeds still in their shell.http://www.oznature shop.com/ product.asp? display=products & cat=healthI have no idea how cost effective this is in comparison to what you can obtain in Victoria. I wouldn't have a clue where to look here in Tassie. I seem to remember CancerTutor recommending uncracked Apricot seeds, which the above link supplies. Price seems a little steep perhaps?I hope you and yours haven't been affected by the awful bush fires. So far all my friends in Gippsland are safe! Such an awful, awful tragedy, that won"t be over anytime soon I fear. My husband is waiting to be called over any day now to do Disaster Victim Identification.Blessings, Eva.--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupMonday, February 9, 2009, 3:00 AM Tony, I take about 15 apricot seeds a day as a preventative measure after my husbands death out of fear, and many people here in Australia with cancer are taking it too. The only problem we have is that we can not find the seeds, and when we do is underground sort of thing ( illegal ) so we make a deal with the seller on the side, so my whole thinking was and is on the preventative side, plus as a therapy as soon as a person is diagnosed with cancer. And to finished this off, nothing beats knowledge- knowledge knowledge. P.S. so Tony do you think that oleander and laetrile will work together strait after a person has been diagnosed ? or not Hugs Mary - Tony Isaacs oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 12:34 PM Re: Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17 In general, I like laetrile. It is better for some cancers than others though and it is considered a slow acting cancer treatment that is best used when someone has a year to year and a half survival estimation. A very key sentence found in the sight you refer to is this one: "The usual metabolic approach to amygdalin (Laetrile) therapy is to provide the patient with adequate nutritional support, with relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances." I think knowing just what those "relatively nontoxic high doses of vitamins and minerals and other active natural substances" are. Kind of hard to make a judgment on laetril without knowing else a person may be taking. Tony--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> Amygdalin- laetrile or vitamin B17oleander soupSaturday, February 7, 2009, 8:52 PM This is a good informative article- s , we have never talk about apricot seed therapy here, have we ? i find this site very good and the information better. hope this is of intrest to you . Hugs Mary http://www.1cure4ca ncer.com/ truth.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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