Guest guest Posted February 9, 2009 Report Share Posted February 9, 2009 It is easy to obtain B17. You can get them from any Traditional Chinese herbal/medical shop in Chinatown. Ask for apricot seeds - the bitter one (North Xin) and not the sweet part(South Xin)I can give you the chinese character to show to the druggists - just email off forumColin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Where are you Colin? i'm in Australia Regards Mary - Colin Lee oleander soup Monday, February 09, 2009 9:49 PM Easy to get B17 It is easy to obtain B17. You can get them from any Traditional Chinese herbal/medical shop in Chinatown. Ask for apricot seeds - the bitter one (North Xin) and not the sweet part(South Xin)I can give you the chinese character to show to the druggists - just email off forumColin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hello dear Mary,We buy 20 kg boxes of over ripe organic fruit for $2, sold for birds, or jam. We eat the good bits as we go, after washing in weak peroxide (silver would probably be good too!), and harvest the stones, pits etc. Also, when I am processing our apples for juice we put the seeds in too. Initially I like the initial taste but it quickly palls, so the juice is a good way to get it. We always put saved fruit pits through the juicer with any fruit or veg juice.It is in millet and cassava, known as manioc in the Caribbean I think, and we know it better as tapioca.Manihot esculenta.Dont worry about the so-called risk from the cyanide - we would all have died long ago if it was true as it is in all of these foods! It is in so many different foods that it would be difficult to avoid it!Laetrile is found in the seeds (stones or kernels) of most members of the rose (Rosaceae) family. I've put amounts where known - I used to have this stuck to my fridge. It educated many, especially those who believed the cyanide hype! I'd better print it off again! If we eat mostly processed food we will miss out on this and many other vitamins.(mg of Laetrile per 100gms)Fruit: apple seeds >500 mg, apricot kernels >500 mg, cherry stones >500 mg, nectarine stones >500 mg, peach stones >500 mg, pear pips >500 mg,lime pips (?), plum & prune stones >500 mg, elderberries >500 mg,boysenberries 100-500 mg, raspberries 100-500 mg, blackberries - wild (but not on sprayed roadsides!) >500 mg, currants 100-500 mg, gooseberries 100-500 mg.Grains: tapioca large amounts, buckwheat 100-500 mg.Legumes: mung bean sprouts >500 mg, chick peas 100-500 mg, alfalfa sprouts 100-500mg, black-eyed peas 100-500 mg, kidney beans 100-500 mg, lentils 100-500 mg, lima beans 100-500 mg. Nuts: almonds >500 mg, macadamia nuts >500 mg.Seeds: flax seeds 100-500 mg Cyanide ToxicityLaetrile has been widely discredited due to the cyanide molecule contained in its chemical structure, and just WHO did the discrediting? The alphabet soup crooks, the ones paid by the drug companies to act as their shills - sickness authorities like the CDC, FDA etcThe beta-glucosidase enzyme that unlocks cyanide from the laetrile molecule, allowing its toxic effects to destroy cancer cells, is present throughout the body, but normally only in very minute amounts; however this enzyme is present in amounts 100 times stronger in cancer cells. We are truly wondrously made!!!! The cyanide in laetrile is thus bound up, unavailable and harmless to non-cancerous cells.So eat and enjoy!Love,Maracuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hey Maracuja. Bloody bloody im upset, somebody is making a lot of money out of me, and thanks for the idea about the over ripe fruits, i never would have thought of it. I'm taking the apricots for 5 years now, plus all the stone fruits that i buy for the house and keep the seeds except citrus, but the price i pay for the apricot seeds is dreadfuly stupid. thanks for all the helpfull info about the laetrile containt of every fruit seed. Yes i like millet and tapioca and use them regulaly in our home , and i'm not scared of anything natural, but scared to death from proces foods and other ingredients unnamed in foods lol. Thanks Maracuja. Hugs Mary - Maracuja oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:05 PM Re: Easy to get B17 Hello dear Mary,We buy 20 kg boxes of over ripe organic fruit for $2, sold for birds, or jam. We eat the good bits as we go, after washing in weak peroxide (silver would probably be good too!), and harvest the stones, pits etc. Also, when I am processing our apples for juice we put the seeds in too. Initially I like the initial taste but it quickly palls, so the juice is a good way to get it. We always put saved fruit pits through the juicer with any fruit or veg juice.It is in millet and cassava, known as manioc in the Caribbean I think, and we know it better as tapioca.Manihot esculenta.Dont worry about the so-called risk from the cyanide - we would all have died long ago if it was true as it is in all of these foods! It is in so many different foods that it would be difficult to avoid it!Laetrile is found in the seeds (stones or kernels) of most members of the rose (Rosaceae) family. I've put amounts where known - I used to have this stuck to my fridge. It educated many, especially those who believed the cyanide hype! I'd better print it off again! If we eat mostly processed food we will miss out on this and many other vitamins.(mg of Laetrile per 100gms)Fruit: apple seeds >500 mg, apricot kernels >500 mg, cherry stones >500 mg, nectarine stones >500 mg, peach stones >500 mg, pear pips >500 mg,lime pips (?), plum & prune stones >500 mg, elderberries >500 mg,boysenberries 100-500 mg, raspberries 100-500 mg, blackberries - wild (but not on sprayed roadsides!) >500 mg, currants 100-500 mg, gooseberries 100-500 mg.Grains: tapioca large amounts, buckwheat 100-500 mg.Legumes: mung bean sprouts >500 mg, chick peas 100-500 mg, alfalfa sprouts 100-500mg, black-eyed peas 100-500 mg, kidney beans 100-500 mg, lentils 100-500 mg, lima beans 100-500 mg. Nuts: almonds >500 mg, macadamia nuts >500 mg.Seeds: flax seeds 100-500 mg Cyanide ToxicityLaetrile has been widely discredited due to the cyanide molecule contained in its chemical structure, and just WHO did the discrediting? The alphabet soup crooks, the ones paid by the drug companies to act as their shills - sickness authorities like the CDC, FDA etcThe beta-glucosidase enzyme that unlocks cyanide from the laetrile molecule, allowing its toxic effects to destroy cancer cells, is present throughout the body, but normally only in very minute amounts; however this enzyme is present in amounts 100 times stronger in cancer cells. We are truly wondrously made!!!! The cyanide in laetrile is thus bound up, unavailable and harmless to non-cancerous cells.So eat and enjoy!Love,Maracuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 That is awsome info Maracuja. I just replied to Mary saying I wanted to know her Apricot seed supplier - which I still do. However supplementing with all the items on that list will either cut down the need to buy apricot seeds entirely or cut down the already way too high cost of things I take.I just received my water distiller today, so I can make colloidal silver for my husband and parents. And the health food/naturopathic store mixed Essiac tea for me in the right doses today, so I am keen to get started there. Today has been a very exciting and insightful day!Blessings, Eva.--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 4:54 AM Hey Maracuja. Bloody bloody im upset, somebody is making a lot of money out of me, and thanks for the idea about the over ripe fruits, i never would have thought of it. I'm taking the apricots for 5 years now, plus all the stone fruits that i buy for the house and keep the seeds except citrus, but the price i pay for the apricot seeds is dreadfuly stupid. thanks for all the helpfull info about the laetrile containt of every fruit seed. Yes i like millet and tapioca and use them regulaly in our home , and i'm not scared of anything natural, but scared to death from proces foods and other ingredients unnamed in foods lol. Thanks Maracuja. Hugs Mary - Maracuja oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:05 PM Re: Easy to get B17 Hello dear Mary,We buy 20 kg boxes of over ripe organic fruit for $2, sold for birds, or jam. We eat the good bits as we go, after washing in weak peroxide (silver would probably be good too!), and harvest the stones, pits etc. Also, when I am processing our apples for juice we put the seeds in too. Initially I like the initial taste but it quickly palls, so the juice is a good way to get it. We always put saved fruit pits through the juicer with any fruit or veg juice.It is in millet and cassava, known as manioc in the Caribbean I think, and we know it better as tapioca.Manihot esculenta.Dont worry about the so-called risk from the cyanide - we would all have died long ago if it was true as it is in all of these foods! It is in so many different foods that it would be difficult to avoid it!Laetrile is found in the seeds (stones or kernels) of most members of the rose (Rosaceae) family. I've put amounts where known - I used to have this stuck to my fridge. It educated many, especially those who believed the cyanide hype! I'd better print it off again! If we eat mostly processed food we will miss out on this and many other vitamins.(mg of Laetrile per 100gms)Fruit: apple seeds >500 mg, apricot kernels >500 mg, cherry stones >500 mg, nectarine stones >500 mg, peach stones >500 mg, pear pips >500 mg,lime pips (?), plum & prune stones >500 mg, elderberries >500 mg,boysenberries 100-500 mg, raspberries 100-500 mg, blackberries - wild (but not on sprayed roadsides!) >500 mg, currants 100-500 mg, gooseberries 100-500 mg.Grains: tapioca large amounts, buckwheat 100-500 mg.Legumes: mung bean sprouts >500 mg, chick peas 100-500 mg, alfalfa sprouts 100-500mg, black-eyed peas 100-500 mg, kidney beans 100-500 mg, lentils 100-500 mg, lima beans 100-500 mg. Nuts: almonds >500 mg, macadamia nuts >500 mg.Seeds: flax seeds 100-500 mg Cyanide ToxicityLaetrile has been widely discredited due to the cyanide molecule contained in its chemical structure, and just WHO did the discrediting? The alphabet soup crooks, the ones paid by the drug companies to act as their shills - sickness authorities like the CDC, FDA etcThe beta-glucosidase enzyme that unlocks cyanide from the laetrile molecule, allowing its toxic effects to destroy cancer cells, is present throughout the body, but normally only in very minute amounts; however this enzyme is present in amounts 100 times stronger in cancer cells. We are truly wondrously made!!!! The cyanide in laetrile is thus bound up, unavailable and harmless to non-cancerous cells.So eat and enjoy!Love,Maracuja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Lime seeds have it, but I'm still looking for the info on the amounts, I don't have any info on other citrus pips yet.We eat bean & pea sprouts every day as part of our raw salads. I'm not keen on millet, as I have never been able to grind it small enough, not to be gritty. Fussy! My husband objects for a different reason - bloody budgie food, he says! LOL!Love, Maracuja--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon wrote:Maria Stathopoulos <mary1konRe: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Hey Maracuja. Bloody bloody im upset, somebody is making a lot of money out of me, and thanks for the idea about the over ripe fruits, i never would have thought of it. I'm taking the apricots for 5 years now, plus all the stone fruits that i buy for the house and keep the seeds except citrus, but the price i pay for the apricot seeds is dreadfuly stupid. thanks for all the helpfull info about the laetrile containt of every fruit seed. Yes i like millet and tapioca and use them regulaly in our home , and i'm not scared of anything natural, but scared to death from proces foods and other ingredients unnamed in foods lol. Thanks Maracuja. Hugs Mary - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 So glad to be able to help Eva. I must take stock of the various things we do as a family, as I had never thought to mention our sources of B17. Never mind supplementing, we tend to eat heaps of raw fruit and veg as a major part of our diet.The $2 boxes are worth buying, no matter how much the fruit itself has deteriorated. We just rub it off and use a nutcracker to get at the stone or pit. If you juice apples, pears and grapes, don't remove the cores or seeds or skin. It must work very well for the "authorities" to go to such lengths to suppress it, and to suppress the knowledge that it is so common, yet no one is being poisoned by it.It is disturbing that so many try to take advantage of sick people and charge like wounded bulls for their products. There must be a special place in "you know where" reserved for them!Maracuja--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Eva wrote: That is awsome info Maracuja. I just replied to Mary saying I wanted to know her Apricot seed supplier - which I still do. However supplementing with all the items on that list will either cut down the need to buy apricot seeds entirely or cut down the already way too high cost of things I take.I just received my water distiller today, so I can make colloidal silver for my husband and parents. And the health food/naturopathic store mixed Essiac tea for me in the right doses today, so I am keen to get started there. Today has been a very exciting and insightful day!Blessings, Eva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Maracuja, How do you take the manicot in your part of the world, do you take them raw? As far as I know cassava needs to be cooked well to remove its cyanide. Some kids have died from this when cassava snack was served and it was not well cooked. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Yes we cook it. Some say that its B17 is destroyed with cooking. However this might be a mainstream attempt to discourage its use. We were also warned of the same thing about not cooking sufficiently, same story, someone in the Polynesian community died for the same reason. It was a press release from our Sickness Department, and was uncritically regurgitated by the media. I could get no further information though. I found it hard to believe, as they have been using cassava for a couple of hundred years - why would they suddenly lose their knowledge? It's usually soaked to leach out linamarin, then dried. It can be boiled, fried or grilled or added to soups and stews. It is sometimes fermented but I haven't tried that. It is meant to increase the Vit B content.Then there is tapioca pudding. There are lots of interesting recipes available now. My mother used to boil the pearls in milk until they softened. She added vanilla and sugar - boring.I was disappointed to read that the boffins have tampered with it and produced a transgenic cassava that is meant to be cyanide free. No doubt it won't have the qualities that protect us from cancer.I'm sorry, that is probably not much help.Maracuja--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Melly Bag <tita_mel wrote:Melly Bag <tita_mel Re: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:40 AM Maracuja, How do you take the manicot in your part of the world, do you take them raw? As far as I know cassava needs to be cooked well to remove its cyanide. Some kids have died from this when cassava snack was served and it was not well cooked. Melly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Hi all, Sunbury Park apricots in Alexandra south isle NZ is where I got my apricot kernals.....$50 NZD per kilo. sunbury or PO box 118. Clyde.Alexandra.New Zealand......Pam NZ - Maracuja oleander soup Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:20 PM Re: Easy to get B17 Lime seeds have it, but I'm still looking for the info on the amounts, I don't have any info on other citrus pips yet.We eat bean & pea sprouts every day as part of our raw salads. I'm not keen on millet, as I have never been able to grind it small enough, not to be gritty. Fussy! My husband objects for a different reason - bloody budgie food, he says! LOL!Love, Maracuja--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote: Maria Stathopoulos <mary1kon (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au>Re: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 8:54 PM Hey Maracuja. Bloody bloody im upset, somebody is making a lot of money out of me, and thanks for the idea about the over ripe fruits, i never would have thought of it. I'm taking the apricots for 5 years now, plus all the stone fruits that i buy for the house and keep the seeds except citrus, but the price i pay for the apricot seeds is dreadfuly stupid. thanks for all the helpfull info about the laetrile containt of every fruit seed. Yes i like millet and tapioca and use them regulaly in our home , and i'm not scared of anything natural, but scared to death from proces foods and other ingredients unnamed in foods lol. Thanks Maracuja. Hugs Mary - Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release 2/7/2009 1:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Thanks so much for that Pam. Are they "shelled"?.Maracuja--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote:Pam Griffin <pgriffRe: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 1:12 PM Hi all, Sunbury Park apricots in Alexandra south isle NZ is where I got my apricot kernals..... $50 NZD per kilo. sunbury. nz or PO box 118. Clyde.Alexandra. New Zealand..... .Pam NZ - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hang on I sent you the wrong addy its www.sunbury.co.nz Sunbury Park Orchard PO box 118 Clyde.Alexandra. Otago.South Island New Zealand +64 034492806 and yes they were shelled,just kernals.I've also read convincing material about using unshelled apricot pips only as the freshness is sposed to make a huge difference in anti cancer action.......but i cant see that the amygdalin would be lessened as even cooking does not lessen that so its up to the individual and their belief...........Pam - Maracuja oleander soup Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:54 AM Re: Easy to get B17 Thanks so much for that Pam. Are they "shelled"?.Maracuja--- On Tue, 2/10/09, Pam Griffin <pgriff.nz> wrote: Pam Griffin <pgriff.nz>Re: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 1:12 PM Hi all, Sunbury Park apricots in Alexandra south isle NZ is where I got my apricot kernals..... $50 NZD per kilo. sunbury. nz or PO box 118. Clyde.Alexandra. New Zealand..... .Pam NZ - Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release 2/7/2009 1:39 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Like anything, if I'm going to use it quickly, shelled is not a problem. When I do the fruit stone thing I leave them in the shells and crack what I need for smoothies during the winter.Years ago I heard that pesticide tends to collect in the apple seeds. I wonder now, if that was one of those rumours started by a Monsanto shill. However, my own fruit trees have never been sprayed. Also my mothers' generation used to put the fruit kernels in their jams. I don't do jam, instead I squash/mash the raw fruit on honeyed essene bread or whatever - better than fresh jam! Yum!Maracuja--- On Wed, 2/11/09, Pam Griffin <pgriff wrote:Pam Griffin <pgriffRe: Easy to get B17oleander soup Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 12:38 PM Hang on I sent you the wrong addy its www.sunbury. co.nz Sunbury Park Orchard PO box 118 Clyde.Alexandra. Otago.South Island New Zealand +64 034492806 and yes they were shelled,just kernals.I've also read convincing material about using unshelled apricot pips only as the freshness is sposed to make a huge difference in anti cancer action...... .but i cant see that the amygdalin would be lessened as even cooking does not lessen that so its up to the individual and their belief...... .....Pam - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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