Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Sounds good, except soy milk. SOY MILK? Yikes! How about raw goats milk instead? Or almond milk? Anything but soy milk! Soy, canola and corn are the three biggest GMO crops to be found and the people I respect will tell you that ONLY fermented organic non-GMO soy products are safe. Soy and canola are hard to avoid, since one or both are in just about everything (just try buying mayonaisse or about any salad dressing or butter substitute or bread that does not have them). The same for corn oil and high fructose corn syrup. But I try to. oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote:>> Jim,> > The information you give here is the sort of promotional hype I was> referring to. Who cares whether the beta glucan extracted from yeast> sources is the most effective? > > Why bother with extracting any beta glucan at all? A pound of organic> barley flakes costs about $1.80 in a health-food store here in the San> Francisco Bay Area. It takes six minutes to cook a half cup of the> stuff into a tasty cereal. I include a teaspoon of cinnamon along with> a handful of raisins -- and, of course, my heaping teaspoon of ground> apricot kernels [Vitamin B17], which necessitates a little honey as> well for taste. I add a scoop of Flax Hull Lignans and a little soy> milk. This provides me with two grams of beta glucan. At 500mg per 50> lbs of body weight, I need two grams. So that's what I am getting for> about ten cents while you are apparently paying $4 for essentially the> same amount of beta glucan in a fancier form.> > I continue to believe that we are better off getting what we need from> the food we eat when this is in fact possible. With beta glucan, that> appears to be both possible and enjoyable. > > Duane Christensen> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I agree…..no soy. Some are recommending organic, fermented soy. However, for those with cancer, I would suggest passing on any type of soy. I would recommend Hempseed milk from Living Harvest. I have personally been using their hempseed milk and hempseed oil for a while now. The closer one eats to nature, the easier it is to avoid soy, sugar and harmful oils. J Be Well~ Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH Oasis Advanced Wellness oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:42 PM oleander soup Soy? Oy! Sounds good, except soy milk. SOY MILK? Yikes! How about raw goats milk instead? Or almond milk? Anything but soy milk! Soy, canola and corn are the three biggest GMO crops to be found and the people I respect will tell you that ONLY fermented organic non-GMO soy products are safe. Soy and canola are hard to avoid, since one or both are in just about everything (just try buying mayonaisse or about any salad dressing or butter substitute or bread that does not have them). The same for corn oil and high fructose corn syrup. But I try to. oleander soup , " Duane Christensen " <duanechristensen wrote: > > Jim, > > The information you give here is the sort of promotional hype I was > referring to. Who cares whether the beta glucan extracted from yeast > sources is the most effective? > > Why bother with extracting any beta glucan at all? A pound of organic > barley flakes costs about $1.80 in a health-food store here in the San > Francisco Bay Area. It takes six minutes to cook a half cup of the > stuff into a tasty cereal. I include a teaspoon of cinnamon along with > a handful of raisins -- and, of course, my heaping teaspoon of ground > apricot kernels [Vitamin B17], which necessitates a little honey as > well for taste. I add a scoop of Flax Hull Lignans and a little soy > milk. This provides me with two grams of beta glucan. At 500mg per 50 > lbs of body weight, I need two grams. So that's what I am getting for > about ten cents while you are apparently paying $4 for essentially the > same amount of beta glucan in a fancier form. > > I continue to believe that we are better off getting what we need from > the food we eat when this is in fact possible. With beta glucan, that > appears to be both possible and enjoyable. > > Duane Christensen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I'm actually amazed that neither of you said anything about processed barley flakes. And with the high percentage of people who are gluten sensitive/celiac disease and the danger these grains cause...auto-immune diseases, including cancer, I would make sure I was tested before scarfing down any more possibly very dangerous grains! Dangerous Grains by James Braly, M.D. and Dr. David Brownstein has a good book on this also, the name of which escapes me...(only 13 days off gluten). Even though I have known over 20 years I am gluten sensitive, the opioids were too intoxicating and I could not get off my drug! They make morphine in your system. Nice, huh!! Much cheaper than illegal drugs! Now, much less pain in only these few days. And I agree with Loretta...wouldn't ingest soy in any form, cancer or not. It is not healthy and was never meant to be eaten. Lots of info on the Weston A. Price foundation website. Nonie I agree…..no soy. Some are recommending organic, fermented soy. However, for those with cancer, I would suggest passing on any type of soy. I would recommend Hempseed milk from Living Harvest. I have personally been using their hempseed milk and hempseed oil for a while now. The closer one eats to nature, the easier it is to avoid soy, sugar and harmful oils. J Be Well~Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CHOasis Advanced Wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Tony, We make our own mayonaise, so we don't have to worry about the additives and preservatives. It's very easy, 2 egg yolks (no whites) in a mixing bowl beating on low, add your oil in a very slow stream until the egg yolk/oil mixture starts to resemble plastic, then add either lemon juice or vinegar (we use lemon juice for the taste) and salt. The lemon juice will make the yolk/oil emulsion creamy. We use a lot of mayonaise, so we use a dozen eggs at a time, but the 2 egg yolks will make 1/2 to 1 pint of mayo, depending on how much oil you use. Really easy, not quick, but much more healthy! Shara Tony oleander soup Wed, 11 Feb 2009 9:41 pm Soy? Oy! Sounds good, except soy milk. SOY MILK? Yikes! How about raw goats milk instead? Or almond milk? Anything but soy milk! Soy, canola and corn are the three biggest GMO crops to be found and the people I respect will tell you that ONLY fermented organic non-GMO soy products are safe. Soy and canola are hard to avoid, since one or both are in just about everything (just try buying mayonaisse or about any salad dressing or butter substitute or bread that does not have them). The same for corn oil and high fructose corn syrup. But I try to. oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote: > > Jim, > > The information you give here is the sort of promotional hype I was > referring to. Who cares whether the beta glucan extracted from yeast > sources is the most effective? > > Why bother with extracting any beta glucan at all? A pound of organic > barley flakes costs about $1.80 in a health-food store here in the San > Francisco Bay Area. It takes six minutes to cook a half cup of the > stuff into a tasty cereal. I include a teaspoon of cinnamon along with > a handful of raisins -- and, of course, my heaping teaspoon of ground > apricot kernels [Vitamin B17], which necessitates a little honey as > well for taste. I add a scoop of Flax Hull Lignans and a little soy > milk. This provides me with two grams of beta glucan. At 500mg per 50 > lbs of body weight, I need two grams. So that's what I am getting for > about ten cents while you are apparently paying $4 for essentially the > same amount of beta glucan in a fancier form. > > I continue to believe that we are better off getting what we need from > the food we eat when this is in fact possible. With beta glucan, that > appears to be both possible and enjoyable. > > Duane Christensen > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I with you Nonie, I don't eat grains, the only one that I do eat is Quinoa. It is very high in protein, it is a staple with many vegans. It is actually considered more of a seed than a grain. Most people eat way too much grain thus taking in too much carbs. Tis is why so many Americans are so overweight, not to mention sugar of course. Just like dogs and cats we don't need all the grain. Grain especially oats and wheat have alot of fungus. Tammatha - Nonie oleander soup Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:21 PM RE: Soy? Oy! I'm actually amazed that neither of you said anything about processed barley flakes. And with the high percentage of people who are gluten sensitive/celiac disease and the danger these grains cause...auto-immune diseases, including cancer, I would make sure I was tested before scarfing down any more possibly very dangerous grains! Dangerous Grains by James Braly, M.D. and Dr. David Brownstein has a good book on this also, the name of which escapes me...(only 13 days off gluten). Even though I have known over 20 years I am gluten sensitive, the opioids were too intoxicating and I could not get off my drug! They make morphine in your system. Nice, huh!! Much cheaper than illegal drugs! Now, much less pain in only these few days. And I agree with Loretta...wouldn't ingest soy in any form, cancer or not. It is not healthy and was never meant to be eaten. Lots of info on the Weston A. Price foundation website.Nonie I agree…..no soy. Some are recommending organic, fermented soy. However, for those with cancer, I would suggest passing on any type of soy. I would recommend Hempseed milk from Living Harvest. I have personally been using their hempseed milk and hempseed oil for a while now. The closer one eats to nature, the easier it is to avoid soy, sugar and harmful oils. J Be Well~Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CHOasis Advanced Wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I think my eyes just naturally hone-in on the word “soy” because it is in so much and because people are becoming used to marketing that says it is some type of healing food. I wouldn’t recommend the barley flakes either. The entire digestive tract needs to be kept clean and in good condition because that is where health begins and also where disease can take hold if it is not properly maintained. Gluten intolerance is huge and is actually the reason for many so-called allergies. Good information, Nonie! Be Well~ Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH Oasis Advanced Wellness oleander soup oleander soup On Behalf Of Nonie Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:21 PM oleander soup RE: Soy? Oy! I'm actually amazed that neither of you said anything about processed barley flakes. And with the high percentage of people who are gluten sensitive/celiac disease and the danger these grains cause...auto-immune diseases, including cancer, I would make sure I was tested before scarfing down any more possibly very dangerous grains! Dangerous Grains by James Braly, M.D. and Dr. David Brownstein has a good book on this also, the name of which escapes me...(only 13 days off gluten). Even though I have known over 20 years I am gluten sensitive, the opioids were too intoxicating and I could not get off my drug! They make morphine in your system. Nice, huh!! Much cheaper than illegal drugs! Now, much less pain in only these few days. And I agree with Loretta...wouldn't ingest soy in any form, cancer or not. It is not healthy and was never meant to be eaten. Lots of info on the Weston A. Price foundation website. Nonie I agree…..no soy. Some are recommending organic, fermented soy. However, for those with cancer, I would suggest passing on any type of soy. I would recommend Hempseed milk from Living Harvest. I have personally been using their hempseed milk and hempseed oil for a while now. The closer one eats to nature, the easier it is to avoid soy, sugar and harmful oils. J Be Well~ Loretta Lanphier, ND, CN, HHP, CH Oasis Advanced Wellness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Shara. Thanks for the mayonaise recipe. I make my milk with organic oats, 1 cup oats - 2 cups hot water put in the blender overnight, in the morning you blend for few seconds, strain and presto you have your milk ready to use in your breakfast. Regards Mary - showard208 oleander soup Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:25 PM Re: Soy? Oy! Tony,We make our own mayonaise, so we don't have to worry about the additives and preservatives. It's very easy, 2 egg yolks (no whites) in a mixing bowl beating on low, add your oil in a very slow stream until the egg yolk/oil mixture starts to resemble plastic, then add either lemon juice or vinegar (we use lemon juice for the taste) and salt. The lemon juice will make the yolk/oil emulsion creamy. We use a lot of mayonaise, so we use a dozen eggs at a time, but the 2 egg yolks will make 1/2 to 1 pint of mayo, depending on how much oil you use.Really easy, not quick, but much more healthy!SharaTony >oleander soup Sent: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 9:41 pm Soy? Oy! Sounds good, except soy milk. SOY MILK? Yikes! How about raw goats milk instead? Or almond milk? Anything but soy milk! Soy, canola and corn are the three biggest GMO crops to be found and the people I respect will tell you that ONLY fermented organic non-GMO soy products are safe. Soy and canola are hard to avoid, since one or both are in just about everything (just try buying mayonaisse or about any salad dressing or butter substitute or bread that does not have them). The same for corn oil and high fructose corn syrup. But I try to. oleander soup , "Duane Christensen" <duanechristensen wrote:>> Jim,> > The information you give here is the sort of promotional hype I was> referring to. Who cares whether the beta glucan extracted from yeast> sources is the most effective? > > Why bother with extracting any beta glucan at all? A pound of organic> barley flakes costs about $1.80 in a health-food store here in the San> Francisco Bay Area. It takes six minutes to cook a half cup of the> stuff into a tasty cereal. I include a teaspoon of cinnamon along with> a handful of raisins -- and, of course, my heaping teaspoon of ground> apricot kernels [Vitamin B17], which necessitates a little honey as> well for taste. I add a scoop of Flax Hull Lignans and a little soy> milk. This provides me with two grams of beta glucan. At 500mg per 50> lbs of body weight, I need two grams. So that's what I am getting for> about ten cents while you are apparently paying $4 for essentially the> same amount of beta glucan in a fancier form.> > I continue to believe that we are better off getting what we need from> the food we eat when this is in fact possible. With beta glucan, that> appears to be both possible and enjoyable. > > Duane Christensen> A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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